BorgyDudeMan
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More resistances? That would help, I guess.
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I mean, that doesn't really help it competitively. And I'm pretty sure that's what most people have a problem with.Instead of "fixing" the ice type, let's just make it the first town/gym. Would make sense if we're in a cold Germanic/Nordic region (which seems kinda likely since it'll be next to Kalos and is also where Lillie is likely to be from).
Well there are many other types to chose from. If the concept for Ice types don't work competitively for you then don't use it.
Sorry bout being rude. >.< Well, from how I see it, types are designed with specific concepts and ideas in mind. Asking for it to be changed to suit your competitive needs doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
I don't think concepts of types have to change. But when something is so out-of-balance, one needs to re-evaluate how the type might fit in. I mean, why include a type that can't be used at all? If there were a type weak to everything and strong against nothing, obviously it wouldn't be good competitively. And so, if it's going to fall into disuse, why should they even bother making new Pokémon of that type?Sorry bout being rude. >.< Well, from how I see it, types are designed with specific concepts and ideas in mind. Asking for it to be changed to suit your competitive needs doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
Don't forget Grass. Resisted by seven types and weak to five.I don't think concepts of types have to change. But when something is so out-of-balance, one needs to re-evaluate how the type might fit in. I mean, why include a type that can't be used at all? If there were a type weak to everything and strong against nothing, obviously it wouldn't be good competitively. And so, if it's going to fall into disuse, why should they even bother making new Pokémon of that type?
Ice isn't the worst. It just draws the short straw when it comes to defensive match-ups. It resists literally nothing. You could argue that ice as a type is then meant to be more offensive, but then why would they keep making defense-oriented Pokémon like Avalugg, if that's the case?
It sort of has the opposite problem bug has. While ice resists almost nothing, poor bug is resisted by almost everything. Like, when they revealed the fairy type and I saw that it resisted bug, I got very mad. Bug is one of my favorites, and it's very hard to use because of its shortcomings. And similar to this thread talking about ice, I would like some changes to be made to fix it.
I don't think concepts of types have to change. But when something is so out-of-balance, one needs to re-evaluate how the type might fit in. I mean, why include a type that can't be used at all? If there were a type weak to everything and strong against nothing, obviously it wouldn't be good competitively. And so, if it's going to fall into disuse, why should they even bother making new Pokémon of that type?
Ice isn't the worst. It just draws the short straw when it comes to defensive match-ups. It resists literally nothing. You could argue that ice as a type is then meant to be more offensive, but then why would they keep making defense-oriented Pokémon like Avalugg, if that's the case?
It sort of has the opposite problem bug has. While ice resists almost nothing, poor bug is resisted by almost everything. Like, when they revealed the fairy type and I saw that it resisted bug, I got very mad. Bug is one of my favorites, and it's very hard to use because of its shortcomings. And similar to this thread talking about ice, I would like some changes to be made to fix it.
Weavile?We also need a frail and fast Ice type.
Weavile?
In that case, why not look at the changes that occurred from Gen 1 to Gen 2? Poison was strong against and weak to Bug in Gen 1, but dealt neutral damage and resisted it in Gen 2. Or how about Gen 6, where Steel stopped resisting Ghost and Dark? Changing a type's current matchups for better balance isn't an unreasonable request-it's something that's already been done before.Introducing a new type is different from changing the lore of a particular type. I think adding resistance/effectiveness is too much of a change.
Placement in the story doesn't really determine a type's strength, especially when the order switches from region to region. (Water has been the last gym in two regions, the second in one, and the fourth in another) Besides, nobody said gyms even have to specialize in one type anyways-The Striaton trio and Blue show that much.I just thought if the Ice type is so weak now then maybe they can place it as the first town. I never really got why they kept having it as one of the last gyms.
Freeze-Dry would be the closest to this idea.As a kid I always thought Ice was Super Effective against water for some reason. Would be good to make it real.