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As is my wont lately, I'll be going through this piecemeal in a sort of stream of consciousness, and then bring it all back together at the end to form something resembling actual feedback. Let's go!
Part 1
I like Agatha's attitude, even if I don't entirely understand it. There's obviously an established and complicated relationship between her and Oak, and that's communicated clearly before she even gets to his lab. If anything, it's a little too heavy-handed, but on balance I'd say it works. She admired him, admired his strength, he threw away all his potential to be a researcher instead, but he's still a force to be reckoned with and she needs him, dammit, but it galls her to ask, probably because of the circumstances under which they parted. Sound right?
Okay, she was kinda rude, but he didn't have to throw up. XD
This is something that just becomes exacerbated by posting stories on forums - with a wide screen and no indentation there's only so much you can do - but it's pretty obvious when conversations are falling into a pattern. This whole interaction between Oak and Agatha reads really strangely because there's *counts* 17 lines of dialogue and minor action, all pretty much the same length, before something happens. The length of the conversation isn't bad, Arceus knows I have the talking-head problem myself and this is nowhere near that level, but there's not a lot of variation in the lengths of the paragraphs, which is a touch jarring and breaks up the flow of the story a little.
I'm just nitpicking really, because I am enjoying this interaction. The tension between the two is palpable, and I enjoy how Oak doesn't seem to be feeling it.
Should probably be 'even relative to' or 'even in relation to'.
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Part 2
I find the sudden tonal shift interesting. It's obviously more than a little sinister, but it brings up a number of other questions. Why is Blaine so... he seems like a child. Fuji's obviously pulling his strings, but Blaine scans like someone brainwashed, hypnotised, mentally disabled or juvenile. Very Igor, which is in blinding contrast to the sharp-as-a-tack (if slightly mad) Blaine we see in the games. Interesting characterisation, and of course not necessarily wrong; I just look forward to seeing what the implications are.
Bringing Mega Evolution into Kanto - and decades before the games' setting, to boot - is an interesting choice (I know we saw Zard-Y in the last part, but I'm just thinking about it as Fuji carries on now). Between fossils and Megas, something is telling me Mew/two is involved in some capacity. I'm not intimately familiar with your other work, so I may be missing some context here (as other reviews seem to be alluding to earlier works) - but I don't mind it, since this story seems to be standing well enough on its own so far.
...I've played enough D&D to see where this is going.
Part 3
I love how nerdy Oak is when he's going through the lab. In his old age you can see his passion for Pokemon, but it's tempered by age and wisdom to an extent, whereas here his obsession is clearly in full swing. My one gripe with this is that you've spent quite a bit of time telling us this (mostly through Agatha's eyes), whereas simply allowing his personality to shine through in scenes like this would have clearly got the point across.
I do appreciate the living scenery as always; makes the setting feel more alive. However, these guys are doing pretty much the most cliched faceless-scientist thing they could think of, almost as if to drive home the point that they're not important.
Hrmm, minor quibble really, but I feel like the 'usual blue Omastar tentacles' is a) a bit of a misnomer since this is an incredibly rare - or indeed, extinct - Pokemon and there's nothing 'usual' about it and b) doesn't seem like something Oak would know. If Omastar is extinct but known from fossil records, there should be no way even a researcher like Oak would know what colour it is, especially the fleshy bits that don't survive fossilization. I'm just drawing comparisons to how it took us well over a hundred years of digging up bones to realise that many dinosaurs probably had feathers. But like I say, minor quibble and pretty much inconsequential to the flow of the story.
Oak seems to get over his qualms quite rapidly, which disturbs me somewhat. For someone who loves Pokemon so much, it seems a little out of character that he would accept literal torture in the name of progress. I suspect he's still having doubts, but if he 'tried to summon his previous outrage, but it would not come', that sounds pretty damning.
Also, this is SO not how reviving fossil Pokemon is supposed to work. Obviously. It's quite horrific, and I love that. I'd never thought of... well, whatever Fuji is doing here to twist regular Pokemon into bastardized copies of the ancient ones, but it's certainly a novel take. And I confess it did set me on edge when the narration was so very insistent on pointing out that half of Kabutops was literally a Scyther.
Okay, so Oak's got his moral compass back on track. That's good to see. I appreciate the fact that he struggled with his desire to see the ancient Pokemon brought to life, but I didn't quite buy the struggle. Like I said above, he just kind of went from 'oh no that poor Pokemon' to 'actually this is kind of cool' and back. The internal conflict makes sense, and I'm glad it was included, but I'm not sure it was given enough attention to really feel real.
Part 4
I'm not sure I like this. The terminology chosen makes the manoeuvre sound straight out of the video games, and blunts the otherwise quite successful edge of realism in the story. Same goes for the description of Pursuit in a following paragraph - very gamified, especially terms like 'knocking out the Gengar on contact' - and the Venoshock. All in all, the battle scenes are probably the weakest part of this fic so far.
Part 5
Okay, I'm sorry, but I inadvertantly chuckled at this. I don't really think of 'bouncing up and down' as a thing that men's chests do when they laugh... I get the imagery you were going for, though.
...I know enough about Mega Evolution to see that this part of his research, too, is sick and wrong. Sick and wrong! Speaking of, I'm not entirely sure what sort of... well, fuckery is going on in this part of the story. The swarm of miniature Spooks, the weird dissociative episode and subsequent transition to purple dreamscape... feels a bit random.
Now that said, I do like the scene with dream-Oak, but I'm not a huge fan of how it's implemented. I'll go back into this in my general comments later, because it's one of the core strengths/weaknesses of the story in my opinion, so it deserves its own section. The tl;dr however comes down to the same 'show, don't tell' as I touched on with Oak before.
I'm not sure whether to attribute this to an actual mistake, or a simple case of writing the same scene twice while distracted and forgetting to delete one, but you have two almost identical conversations back-to-back. I could maybe understand a shellshocked Agatha refusing to believe it the first time, but that's not the vibe I'm getting here - especially since Oak doesn’t seem to react either.
Hmm, Fuji's sudden change of heart is another one of those things that I wish had been shown rather than informed. While we saw Agatha's torment and felt its emotional impact, we didn't see Fuji's. We gather that he faced the same or a similar hallucination through Spook's possession, but it's not really explicitly given to us.
Okay, let's wrap up.
Characters: I’m going to start here because, at its heart - to me at least - this is a story about Oak and Agatha. I like their relationship, I really do; there’s a majority of bitterness on Agatha’s side, tempered with just enough sweetness and nostalgia to make it sting a little bit. What I don’t like is that these feelings are just... given to us. A number of times, you outright mention that she felt angry with him and tell us why, which... cheapens it somewhat. And just like Oak’s personality, you told us first and then later, you showed us anyway! And those scenes were good, but they had the wind taken out of their sails by the fact we already knew the deal. The fic would be a lot stronger in this regard, in my opinion, if you cut the explicit emotional cues and just lay the relationship out in front of us. I suspect you fell into the trap of wanting to make extra-super-duper sure that your readers Got The Point and overcompensated on the telling.
From the first half of Part 1, maybe even before a word was spoken, I think I had a solid read on Agatha and Oak’s history, and that made the following scenes a lot weaker when we got to see some great interactions between the two. And they were great! As a character study, I’d say you had some success in the later half of the story with the scenes between the two, but laying everything out so explicitly sort of cheapened it. I’m repeating myself quite a bit here, but a) I think this is quite central and important to the fic and b) I’m trying to make it clear that I did in fact very much like the relationship between the protagonists, but just felt a little let down by the framing.
Plot: It’s a tale as old as time, really. Everyone thinks it’s a great idea to torture and exploit helpless beings until you’re forced to walk a mile in their shoes, and then the evil scientist sees the error of his ways. Mm, as I touched on before I wasn’t really buying Fuji’s instant heel face turn, largely because we only see the aftermath of the dramatic climax. Agatha blacks out and faces her own demons, completing the requisite protagonist arc, but the antagonist arc feels abortive and incomplete. Again, we are told that Fuji experienced the same agony and guilt that Agatha did, rather than shown.
That said, I enjoyed the plot as a vehicle for the character drama, which as I’ve said, I believe to be the crux of this piece. Putting characters with a complicated existing relationship through an extreme trial that pits them against each other and forces them to reconcile is a tried and true formula, and I feel like you were very successful with it in this regard.
Prose/dialogue: Hmm, I touched on the battle scenes already and there’s not much more to say in that regard. In both instances of battle I felt like I was watching set pieces using an altered game engine rather than a dynamic, thrilling combat.
With regards to dialogue, other than the weird Twilight Zone feeling I got from reading quite a long conversation in one-liners of the same length, I didn’t find this story lacking at all. The four characters were all sufficiently distinct with voices that were fit for purpose, and I wasn’t confronted by any major contradictions with my hazy memory of Gen I games - except perhaps Blaine, who sort of struck me as a little more shrewd. I mean yes, he’s hot-headed, but I wouldn’t expect him to make such a lapse in judgement as to attack Oak and Agatha. Fuji’s rebuke reminds me of a scene from Star Trek or something, where an android with perfect logic and no emotions has to be given incredibly specific instructions or he’ll do something completely crazy by human standards.
I don’t know, perhaps age tempered him somewhat.
Overall: Yeah, I liked it! What can I say? I think I’ve covered everything, but at the end of the day and after all those nitpicks it really was a very enjoyable read. The start was a little bumpy and perhaps didn’t draw me in as much as it could have, but I found myself going through the rest all in one sitting - even while taking all these notes. I think you have a great character drama on your hands here, one that has the potential to be excellent with some tuning. It was held back somewhat by the issues I mentioned, but not enough to be anything close to poor. Still an engaging read. Big props!
Part 1
I like Agatha's attitude, even if I don't entirely understand it. There's obviously an established and complicated relationship between her and Oak, and that's communicated clearly before she even gets to his lab. If anything, it's a little too heavy-handed, but on balance I'd say it works. She admired him, admired his strength, he threw away all his potential to be a researcher instead, but he's still a force to be reckoned with and she needs him, dammit, but it galls her to ask, probably because of the circumstances under which they parted. Sound right?
‘Cut the crap, Oak. I need your help. Something’s going down in Cinnabar.’
Oak chucked slowly.
Okay, she was kinda rude, but he didn't have to throw up. XD
This is something that just becomes exacerbated by posting stories on forums - with a wide screen and no indentation there's only so much you can do - but it's pretty obvious when conversations are falling into a pattern. This whole interaction between Oak and Agatha reads really strangely because there's *counts* 17 lines of dialogue and minor action, all pretty much the same length, before something happens. The length of the conversation isn't bad, Arceus knows I have the talking-head problem myself and this is nowhere near that level, but there's not a lot of variation in the lengths of the paragraphs, which is a touch jarring and breaks up the flow of the story a little.
I'm just nitpicking really, because I am enjoying this interaction. The tension between the two is palpable, and I enjoy how Oak doesn't seem to be feeling it.
It had three horns on its head rather than the usual two, and all of them were much longer than usual, even in relative to its large size.
Should probably be 'even relative to' or 'even in relation to'.
‘Ha! You better have Burn Heal!’
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Part 2
I find the sudden tonal shift interesting. It's obviously more than a little sinister, but it brings up a number of other questions. Why is Blaine so... he seems like a child. Fuji's obviously pulling his strings, but Blaine scans like someone brainwashed, hypnotised, mentally disabled or juvenile. Very Igor, which is in blinding contrast to the sharp-as-a-tack (if slightly mad) Blaine we see in the games. Interesting characterisation, and of course not necessarily wrong; I just look forward to seeing what the implications are.
Bringing Mega Evolution into Kanto - and decades before the games' setting, to boot - is an interesting choice (I know we saw Zard-Y in the last part, but I'm just thinking about it as Fuji carries on now). Between fossils and Megas, something is telling me Mew/two is involved in some capacity. I'm not intimately familiar with your other work, so I may be missing some context here (as other reviews seem to be alluding to earlier works) - but I don't mind it, since this story seems to be standing well enough on its own so far.
Agatha, Blaine will take you to the mega evolution chamber while I take Professor Oak to the fossil revival lab.’
...I've played enough D&D to see where this is going.
Part 3
I love how nerdy Oak is when he's going through the lab. In his old age you can see his passion for Pokemon, but it's tempered by age and wisdom to an extent, whereas here his obsession is clearly in full swing. My one gripe with this is that you've spent quite a bit of time telling us this (mostly through Agatha's eyes), whereas simply allowing his personality to shine through in scenes like this would have clearly got the point across.
Inside, two men in white lab coats whispered and made notes on clipboards while looking at...
I do appreciate the living scenery as always; makes the setting feel more alive. However, these guys are doing pretty much the most cliched faceless-scientist thing they could think of, almost as if to drive home the point that they're not important.
Its tentacles were black like those of a Tentacruel rather than the usual blue Omastar tentacles and rather than the small beige beak of an Omastar it bore the large blue pincers of a Tentacruel on its face.
Hrmm, minor quibble really, but I feel like the 'usual blue Omastar tentacles' is a) a bit of a misnomer since this is an incredibly rare - or indeed, extinct - Pokemon and there's nothing 'usual' about it and b) doesn't seem like something Oak would know. If Omastar is extinct but known from fossil records, there should be no way even a researcher like Oak would know what colour it is, especially the fleshy bits that don't survive fossilization. I'm just drawing comparisons to how it took us well over a hundred years of digging up bones to realise that many dinosaurs probably had feathers. But like I say, minor quibble and pretty much inconsequential to the flow of the story.
Oak seems to get over his qualms quite rapidly, which disturbs me somewhat. For someone who loves Pokemon so much, it seems a little out of character that he would accept literal torture in the name of progress. I suspect he's still having doubts, but if he 'tried to summon his previous outrage, but it would not come', that sounds pretty damning.
Also, this is SO not how reviving fossil Pokemon is supposed to work. Obviously. It's quite horrific, and I love that. I'd never thought of... well, whatever Fuji is doing here to twist regular Pokemon into bastardized copies of the ancient ones, but it's certainly a novel take. And I confess it did set me on edge when the narration was so very insistent on pointing out that half of Kabutops was literally a Scyther.
Okay, so Oak's got his moral compass back on track. That's good to see. I appreciate the fact that he struggled with his desire to see the ancient Pokemon brought to life, but I didn't quite buy the struggle. Like I said above, he just kind of went from 'oh no that poor Pokemon' to 'actually this is kind of cool' and back. The internal conflict makes sense, and I'm glad it was included, but I'm not sure it was given enough attention to really feel real.
Part 4
It was some time before Fearow was finally hit by a Toxic, and it let out a crow of pain.
I'm not sure I like this. The terminology chosen makes the manoeuvre sound straight out of the video games, and blunts the otherwise quite successful edge of realism in the story. Same goes for the description of Pursuit in a following paragraph - very gamified, especially terms like 'knocking out the Gengar on contact' - and the Venoshock. All in all, the battle scenes are probably the weakest part of this fic so far.
Part 5
Blaine grinned and let out a laugh, his badly burned chest bouncing up and down as he did.
Okay, I'm sorry, but I inadvertantly chuckled at this. I don't really think of 'bouncing up and down' as a thing that men's chests do when they laugh... I get the imagery you were going for, though.
...I know enough about Mega Evolution to see that this part of his research, too, is sick and wrong. Sick and wrong! Speaking of, I'm not entirely sure what sort of... well, fuckery is going on in this part of the story. The swarm of miniature Spooks, the weird dissociative episode and subsequent transition to purple dreamscape... feels a bit random.
Now that said, I do like the scene with dream-Oak, but I'm not a huge fan of how it's implemented. I'll go back into this in my general comments later, because it's one of the core strengths/weaknesses of the story in my opinion, so it deserves its own section. The tl;dr however comes down to the same 'show, don't tell' as I touched on with Oak before.
‘Spook?’ she managed.
‘He’s gone,’ answered Oak, ‘When I shut off the machine he escaped from it, and flew away.’
Agatha nodded. Of course he had.
‘Where’s Spook?’
All three men look to her, their faces showing shock at the unexpected noise.
‘Gone,’ said Oak, ‘When I turned off the machine he flew away.’
‘Yes,’ said Agatha, ‘Of course.’
I'm not sure whether to attribute this to an actual mistake, or a simple case of writing the same scene twice while distracted and forgetting to delete one, but you have two almost identical conversations back-to-back. I could maybe understand a shellshocked Agatha refusing to believe it the first time, but that's not the vibe I'm getting here - especially since Oak doesn’t seem to react either.
Hmm, Fuji's sudden change of heart is another one of those things that I wish had been shown rather than informed. While we saw Agatha's torment and felt its emotional impact, we didn't see Fuji's. We gather that he faced the same or a similar hallucination through Spook's possession, but it's not really explicitly given to us.
Okay, let's wrap up.
Characters: I’m going to start here because, at its heart - to me at least - this is a story about Oak and Agatha. I like their relationship, I really do; there’s a majority of bitterness on Agatha’s side, tempered with just enough sweetness and nostalgia to make it sting a little bit. What I don’t like is that these feelings are just... given to us. A number of times, you outright mention that she felt angry with him and tell us why, which... cheapens it somewhat. And just like Oak’s personality, you told us first and then later, you showed us anyway! And those scenes were good, but they had the wind taken out of their sails by the fact we already knew the deal. The fic would be a lot stronger in this regard, in my opinion, if you cut the explicit emotional cues and just lay the relationship out in front of us. I suspect you fell into the trap of wanting to make extra-super-duper sure that your readers Got The Point and overcompensated on the telling.
From the first half of Part 1, maybe even before a word was spoken, I think I had a solid read on Agatha and Oak’s history, and that made the following scenes a lot weaker when we got to see some great interactions between the two. And they were great! As a character study, I’d say you had some success in the later half of the story with the scenes between the two, but laying everything out so explicitly sort of cheapened it. I’m repeating myself quite a bit here, but a) I think this is quite central and important to the fic and b) I’m trying to make it clear that I did in fact very much like the relationship between the protagonists, but just felt a little let down by the framing.
Plot: It’s a tale as old as time, really. Everyone thinks it’s a great idea to torture and exploit helpless beings until you’re forced to walk a mile in their shoes, and then the evil scientist sees the error of his ways. Mm, as I touched on before I wasn’t really buying Fuji’s instant heel face turn, largely because we only see the aftermath of the dramatic climax. Agatha blacks out and faces her own demons, completing the requisite protagonist arc, but the antagonist arc feels abortive and incomplete. Again, we are told that Fuji experienced the same agony and guilt that Agatha did, rather than shown.
That said, I enjoyed the plot as a vehicle for the character drama, which as I’ve said, I believe to be the crux of this piece. Putting characters with a complicated existing relationship through an extreme trial that pits them against each other and forces them to reconcile is a tried and true formula, and I feel like you were very successful with it in this regard.
Prose/dialogue: Hmm, I touched on the battle scenes already and there’s not much more to say in that regard. In both instances of battle I felt like I was watching set pieces using an altered game engine rather than a dynamic, thrilling combat.
With regards to dialogue, other than the weird Twilight Zone feeling I got from reading quite a long conversation in one-liners of the same length, I didn’t find this story lacking at all. The four characters were all sufficiently distinct with voices that were fit for purpose, and I wasn’t confronted by any major contradictions with my hazy memory of Gen I games - except perhaps Blaine, who sort of struck me as a little more shrewd. I mean yes, he’s hot-headed, but I wouldn’t expect him to make such a lapse in judgement as to attack Oak and Agatha. Fuji’s rebuke reminds me of a scene from Star Trek or something, where an android with perfect logic and no emotions has to be given incredibly specific instructions or he’ll do something completely crazy by human standards.
I don’t know, perhaps age tempered him somewhat.
Overall: Yeah, I liked it! What can I say? I think I’ve covered everything, but at the end of the day and after all those nitpicks it really was a very enjoyable read. The start was a little bumpy and perhaps didn’t draw me in as much as it could have, but I found myself going through the rest all in one sitting - even while taking all these notes. I think you have a great character drama on your hands here, one that has the potential to be excellent with some tuning. It was held back somewhat by the issues I mentioned, but not enough to be anything close to poor. Still an engaging read. Big props!