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Writers Workshop General Chat Thread

Discussion in 'The Written Word' started by Gama, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Eliza Prescott

    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    Meanwhile, in sunny New York...
     
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    Instrutilus Me am stalking bug

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  3. Ereshkigal

    Ereshkigal Far too mouthy for my own good.

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    That kind of weather is why I think American gang wars were born in New York. Bored people with nothing better to do who spend far too long cooped up.
     
  4. diamondpearl876

    diamondpearl876 ripperoni

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    Yepp, I just now got plowed out of the driveway, roughly 20 hours after the snow in my area of NY stopped. Heard the roads are still dangerous, though, so I'm not going anywhere, and I'm not sure I'll be able to go anywhere tomorrow, either, if the snow doesn't stop blowing everywhere. :/
     
  5. Beth Pavell

    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    This corner of England has been literally blue skies all day. I'm going to be smug about this for once since I've waited four long months for Spring
     
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    Instrutilus Me am stalking bug

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    Wait a minute... England doesn't have blue skies! -rips mask off- -gasps- Old man Jenkins?!
     
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    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    I still can't think anything funny to say
     
  8. Instrutilus

    Instrutilus Me am stalking bug

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    "And I woulda gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddlin' Instru and your dumb bug!"?
     
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    I never knew what the Oxford comma was until my sister berated me about it for forgetting it. Thought it was kind of niche until I saw this story today and definitely won't be forgetting it from now on.
     
  10. Beth Pavell

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    Well. It's a subtle distinction - reluctant as I am to admit a newspaper style guide has anything right I think the Guardian does. In most situations, common sense and context ought to prevail
     
  11. Eliza Prescott

    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    The importance of the Oxford comma can clearly be summed up with:

    "I invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin to the party."
    "I invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin to the party."
     
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    Or with...

    "I'm about to cook Grandma."
    "I'm about to cook, Grandma."
     
  13. AceTrainer14

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    An Oxford comma is only when you have a list of three or more things and you put a comma after the penultimate item and before the 'and' or 'or'. Though the comma you used is equally as important.
     
  14. Ereshkigal

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    And the sad thing is, I did excellently in English classes, so I should have remembered that...
     
  15. Six Paths

    Six Paths Within the Puppet

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    The funny thing is, I've always used that comma without even knowing it had a name. Like, all these years I've written or typed...
     
  16. Beth Pavell

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    Context is still important. If the text establishes that Character A is on the phone to Grandma, for example, then only the most wooden-headed grammarian could insist that "I'm cooking Grandma" is ambiguous.
     
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    I don't think I ever got taught it at school. My English education was pretty poor here in NZ for some reason :p
     
  18. Ereshkigal

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    The American system isn't necessarily better, depending on where you live :p
     
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    I'm reliably informed that English teaching isn't what it was when I was a callow teen. I seem to recall that - well, actually I went to a bad primary school and owe my early literacy mostly to my parents, come to think of it - English teaching was more concerned with the analysis of text rather than learning stacks of "rules" and technical language. I'm told it's rather the opposite now, which frankly puts me off the idea of teaching English in schools
     
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    It has. It's part of the Common Core reforms. Included is education on how to do math problems that, frankly, is a great way to make certain we don't have any scientists or engineers in the future. It's part of why several states, including my own, have abandoned the idea in defiance of the federal government.