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Writers Workshop General Chat Thread

Discussion in 'The Written Word' started by Gama, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Eliza Prescott

    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    Today has been the most terribly lazy day, I've literally had all day to myself without a single distraction in the world and I've written maybe two lines and then spent the rest of the time staring at the wall. I'm starting to think I'm falling into the clutches of depression again.
     
  2. Instrutilus

    Instrutilus Me am stalking bug

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    Welp, that little issue in my village ended. They broke the door down and went in after him. Fun times.

    Yeah, apathy can signal depression returning, but you noticed so you can take action toward it.
     
  3. Beth Pavell

    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    Perhaps this quote from Catherine Sedley will put a brief smile on your face (Context: Catherine is wondering what James, duke of York, sees in her when he takes her as his mistress)

    "It cannot be my beauty, for he must see I have none. And it cannot be my wit, for he has not enough to know that I have any."

    Zing
     
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  4. Eliza Prescott

    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    A smirk did appear, yes. I needed it, considering I learned that *both* of my parents have hereditary-linked heart failure which means I'll probably have it myself anywhere between 10 and 15 years from now.

    Life, eh?
     
  5. diamondpearl876

    diamondpearl876 ripperoni

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    Life indeed, though there's never a real guarantee you'll experience the heart failure yourself. Still, the uncertainty can get to you.

    I've been kind of terrified of my family history my whole life as well, since every kind of female cancer runs in the family, as well as arthritis/other pain issues, asthma, heart issues, aneurysm/stroke issues, mental health issues, and now, my 8-year-old nephew was discovered to have a brain tumor recently. I have minor health issues in comparison to this stuff, but, you know. Life.
     
  6. canisaries

    canisaries cuttlefish more like CUDDLEfish am i right

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    well, in positive happenings in life, i got my matriculation exam results back yesterday and everything went better than i expected. so well, in fact, that it's very likely i might be automatically accepted to the uni i've applied to.
    in total, i have 3 Ls and 4 Es, L being top 5% and E being the top 15% after that. not as good as my sister (6 Ls,1 E), but i've already come to terms with the fact that my sister's a superhuman. won't stop my brother from still belittling me and boasting about getting a perfect score on his math exam, though...
     
  7. Six Paths

    Six Paths Manager

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    A small tidbit from one of my lessons in school today:
    I feel like this is really important to remember, whether you're reviewing a story, or even just watching a show or reading a book. Always view the characters as characters.
     
  8. Nitro Indigo

    Nitro Indigo Don't you think it's kind of strange?

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    @Six Paths That reminds me, I'm interested in the idea of having characters do things that are typically considered bad writing if you're clearly trying to make a point that people aren't perfect, and/or good people can do bad things.
     
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  9. Beth Pavell

    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    I suppose the corollary to this - so to speak - is that characters don't become better people just because the actors who portray them are attractive. It's a common reaction alright
     
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    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    "This is total trash. Why would character x react to situation y in z way when we know that n isn't true?"

    My personal favorite and one I get a lot.
     
  11. Beth Pavell

    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    I'm probably guilty of that sometimes, especially when reading first person. I admit, I have a low tolerance for the unreliable narrator (It probably doesn't help that I have a good memory for detail when it comes to story). I find myself feeling that the author is trying to gaslight me
     
  12. Eliza Prescott

    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    Oh yeah, that reminds me of another few. "Why is character x saying y? We know that's not true." Or "Character x said y about situation z, so it must be 100% fact and I don't know why character n is reacting as if it's not."

    Some of it can come down to bad writing, but it also seems like a lot of readers expect everything to be clear cut and simple, with no room for deception or intrigue.
     
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    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    I tend to notice the opposite more in critiques. Don't get me started on "The problem of Susan" in The Last Battle. Or how there's no clear evidence of sex at the end of The Amber Spyglass, so much as a rather Victorian metaphor.

    I suppose it's down to the way I was taught English in school. There was a strong emphasis on finding evidence in the text to back a point up
     
  14. canisaries

    canisaries cuttlefish more like CUDDLEfish am i right

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    i wish i was more social so i could understand people better...
     
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  15. AceTrainer14

    AceTrainer14 The acest of trainers

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    There's still time to enter our URPG contest - all the info is here, someone needs to give @diamondpearl876 a run for her money ;) Doesn't need to be brand new content either - read the thread and find out!
     
  16. solovino

    solovino Smexy. Videogaming when I can.

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    While it is true there is no special ruling for diacritics on loanwords in English (and there would be not much sense to), this is the 21st Century and we are on the internet so if you want to make your loanwords clear, there should be no issue writing them with their diacritics - in particular if it is for making sure they are properly "marked" in the reader's mind as the loanword proper not and any sort of possible straight or reverse false friend. You can set up your keyboard to give you "dead keys" or Level2 (AltGr / Ctrl+Alt) access to diacritics you will use regularly with some official tools (on Windows: your country's international keyboard layout if any, if not, the MS Keyboard Layout Tool; on Linux: a custom xkcomp and or .XCompose file), or you could use any of a number of "clipboard history" tools to paste / replace loanwords that you will use regularly. But here I would stress "regularly", otherwise there's not uch point investing in the technical setup plus you might become uncomfortable using other people's keyboards because muscle memory.

    And because internet, it's unlikely you'll get the loanwords wrong ever, it's just a matter you have someone trustable to ask to, ideally a "first class citizen" user of the word, but wiktionary can be of some help too. Basically: if you want to, it's a problem already solved, if you don't, it's solved too :p

    You can normally copy from FF.net actually, just enter their mobile version (coincidentally :p). If you are on a FF.net fic page, just go to the URL bar and replace "www.fanfiction" with "m.fanfiction".


    ...At least your police get to do interesting stuff. Mine spent the day of yesterday going around from one home to the next to help municipal officers audit the condition and usage of wood burners for heating, and helping traffic flow on the streets when the buses got stuck waiting for passengers or trying to change lanes close to bus stops.
    (Mind, oftentimes it is Special Forces here that have to do traffic control. My country is kinda weird about that)
     
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    Nitro Indigo Don't you think it's kind of strange?

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    I'm clearing out my to-read shelf on Goodreads, and discovered that on the 20th of August 2016, I put Wings of Fire: The Dragonet Prophecy on there. That made me smile.
     
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    You know, there're few things I hate more in this world than hearing a woman shouting something after sunset and not being able to be sure what direction it's coming from
     
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    Eliza Prescott Vengeful Ferret

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    You should see what it's like where I live. At least once a week, a drunk lady shows up at around 2 AM, shouting just how much she loves Tony, how sorry she is about everything and how they should stay together. Honestly, I think this Tony character enjoys winding her up, otherwise she'd be at the curb with how annoying she is.
     
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    Beth Pavell Not as cute in person

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    One more reason my all-too English soul wouldn't like living in New Amsterdam New York City