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  1. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    I can understand wanting to lynch me if you were putting a lot of stock in flavour (UB kind of fits with queen, what i claimed doesn't fit with anything) though i don't think there was any reason to lynch me before deadline to make use of the remaining discussion time maybe thats a meta thing...
  2. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    i would have guessed it was because knights and prime numbers are both used in a lot of math puzzles, although i wouldn't have been surprised if you told me there was no flavour connection at all
  3. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    i found this chart while looking up justification for the prime/chess connection and idk whats going on with it but i thought i'd share it
  4. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    If the flavour-solving meta is such that its pro-town to lie about your flavour to make it fit the game better then i think the meta is probably unhealthy, although I can agree that it would have helped in practice. thanks!
  5. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    it was certainly good coming from you and your "we shouldn't let helperman activate just in case" was a really good excuse to push it i think. I don't know why jamie hammered even after helperman showed up though.
  6. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    fun game i'm glad i subbed in hammering me was rude i still had things i wanted to say I'm not sure if this was genuine or not, but if scum had been me and DW, it would have been very hard for us to get a lynch on any of you, jamie, mint, beryl, or potato, because you were all very solidly...
  7. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    mafia will also generally try to help the town, so being helpful is usually close to NAI. I think zexy is the better target for today than either of them though, so its a moot point. Care to explain why everyone else is less likely scum than me? In particular, zexy's claims are also unconfirmed...
  8. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    everyone else to my knowledge has claimed, and becuase nobody claimed emperor that makes potato the emperor by process of elimination, and emperor is a town role. roleclaims/flips from memory: A. Zexy - universal backup. hasn't claimed targets before last night i believed. Tried to track me...
  9. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    Why? This game has an excess of power roles. If zinn was a cop that means we had a tracker/watcher, a cop, a UB, and four more players that could have become investigative roles at N5. Thats an absurd amount of invesitgative power, so it makes sense that scum might have two roleblockers to help...
  10. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    @JamieIsBored why did you think zinn was knight and not queen?
  11. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    Where I come from roleblockers can usually stop the kill. I gather that isn't the case here? They would have started as a janitor/redirector/neighbour and then gained the ability to activate their dead ally's abilities, which seems roughly in line wiht the power level for this game. I'm not...
  12. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    its also still possible there are just two blocks in the game. Minish could have blocked me, and scum could have blocked you. (or you're lying). If other people's actions succeeded that seems like the likely outcome to me. Some sort of game-wide block also seems possible though, and if its the...
  13. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

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  14. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    killing zinn in the hopes that i'll be able to convince people that i'm innocent is not a better strategy. Its a much harder sell to convince people to lynch, say, jamie and beryl than it would be to convince people to lynch minish and zinn. the WIFOM route is obviously a weaker strategy than...
  15. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    I reiterate that if me and Dawning were the last remaining mafia on N2, then hitting zinn makes no sense, as the most probable path to victory would be to encourage chain-lynches on minish and zinn and then win after that. Hitting zinn makes that impossible, and creates a scenario where we need...
  16. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    Mido claimed the ability to promote on night 5, which is probably unique to chess pawns. Mafia is confirmed to be able to promote but the method is unknown. Every piece in shogi (i think?) can promote, not just pawns, so there's that to keep in mind. On what basis?
  17. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    We've confirmed that she very likely has extra voting power, but i don't think anything has indicated that she is a pawn aside from her having effectively claimed as much.
  18. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    We don't really have a lot to go on in terms of flavour. "evolving watcher/tracker" was the rook and i guess thats because rooks tend to be weak in the early game and strong in the late game? It makes sense but its not an angle i would have guessed without already knowing the answer. I might...
  19. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    I'm nexus on non-prime nights, not on prime nights. I imagine its possible in theory to prove that i can bus, but i don't think it would be particularly indicitive since its a common mafia role anyways. If you want me to target anyone specific tonight for the purpose of solving let me know...
  20. ragnarokio

    Mafia Chess Mafia (2023) - ENDGAME - TOWN + INDEPT WIN!

    its not impossible zinn was both a beloved princess and a bomb or something
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