Bulbapedia Suggestions, ideas, and problems

[coolking503]

here's some trivia for excavilier.

"They fly around at high speed" says its black pokedex entry, however it has a base 20 speed.

 

[vuvuzela2010]

I suppose this would be the place...

Spoiler

Here's some beta art of some GSC pokemon I thought should be added. They seem pretty close to their final forms, although the proportions are messed up on a lot of them, and there's notable differences between Entei, Raikou, Larvitar, Lugia, Celebi and especially Hitmontop(Note the missing leg.) Also note Houndoom's Red horns, and Seaking's ugly face.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, before R/G, weren't pokemon only supposed to evolve once if at all? I remember reading that, but I'm not sure where.
And the beta names of Abra and Kadabra seem to support that(Hocus and Pocus; note that there's not a third thing that goes with Hocus Pocus.)

Also, I know it's off topic, but are some of the beta names for Gen I Pokémon just better than their official ones? I think so.
Like Ess and Kargo, as well as Att and Lantis. Meduza, Skulkraken, Tonguetyd and the Machop line's names were also good, and Eon for Eevee makes SO MUCH SENSE.

FUCKIN HELL, CABBAGE PATCH KIDS!!!!
Those are very poor quality, so I would asume they are fake. Also note that Raikou matches its "incorrect" Gold/Silver sprites, rather than its artwork.

 

[Fawfulcopter]

Alright, I can certainly see that they're probably fake.

What about the rest of my post?

 

[The dark lord trombonator]

I don't know about the evolution thing.

And Bulbapedia cannot accept opinions such as "X is better than Y" so we won't be publishing "Hocus is better than Abra" or any equivalent.

 

[Kyuuketsuki]

Found a mistake in this page:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Aron_(Pokémon)#By_breeding

When clicking on Shieldon, you're redirected to Bastiodon. And Rampardos redirects to Shieldon. I don't know what the real one is.

 

[Blaziken257]

On the Unova Route 11 page, it's missing swarm Pokémon. Yesterday I found a Shroomish (I'm playing Black) during a swarm. According to this page, Paras can also be found in the same place in White.

 

[MAGNEDETH]

we dont accept fan sites as notable sources of information.

 

[Soulweaver]

I think I need to nudge this suggestion because it is needed - unless this is done, there is no way to separate those moves that hit all other Pokémon and those which only hit adjacent ones.

i have a simple suggestion...

the template for which attack hits who is kinda like this at present:

FOE FOE FOE
ALLY SELF ALLY
​

utterly pointless (don't quote this saying "what if you're in the middle!?!" seriously think before saying that - it's irrelevant)

the visual display tells you nothing about targets on the other side of the field and it needs to be like this:

FOE FOE FOE
SELF ALLY ALLY
​

that is all

 

[EccentricalAce]

Currently, I find it very annoying about the amount of empty space on pages regarding species, and they average to be quite lengthy if they're from older generations.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12655274/misc/unused space.png
Currently, space issues like that can be fixed (mostly) by collapsing the contents, but why shouldn't it be default then?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12655274/misc/more unused.png
As these pages are, a lot of the issue is with not using horizontal space as much as possible- Even though this accomidates for users with monitors with less width, or for people who don't maxumize their browser, it should at least be changeable.

 

[SnorlaxMonster]

Your screen is a lot wider than mine.
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/Arcaninepage.png
If you minimize that box, it is minimized on all articles, as far as I can tell (but this would required cookies).
As for putting the base stats and Pokéathlon stats on the same row - that could actually work, even in my screen size.

 

[Soulweaver]

Currently, I find it very annoying about the amount of empty space on pages regarding species, and they average to be quite lengthy if they're from older generations.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12655274/misc/unused space.png
Currently, space issues like that can be fixed (mostly) by collapsing the contents, but why shouldn't it be default then?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12655274/misc/more unused.png
As these pages are, a lot of the issue is with not using horizontal space as much as possible- Even though this accomidates for users with monitors with less width, or for people who don't maxumize their browser, it should at least be changeable.

The way HTML flows doesn't give much leeway to put things next to each other horizontally without breaking it for lower resolutions, really.

(Your screen is the same size as mine; I'd suggest you to not use the browser as maximized, you can use only a part of the screen for the browser and the rest for other stuff )

 

[MC151]

Sturdy

I don't know where to put this but on the one hit KO page, it says that Sturdy no longer gives an immunity to one hit KO moves, but I tried it on Black using Sheer Cold on a Boldore, it didn't work and said that Sturdy activated, so in short Sturdy still gives an immunity to moves like Sheer Cold.

 

[MAGNEDETH]

Re: Sturdy

I don't know where to put this but on the one hit KO page, it says that Sturdy no longer gives an immunity to one hit KO moves, but I tried it on Black using Sheer Cold on a Boldore, it didn't work and said that Sturdy activated, so in short Sturdy still gives an immunity to moves like Sheer Cold.

last line of the first section:
"Pokémon holding a Focus Sash and those with Sturdy in Generation V will be instead reduced to 1 HP by a OHKO move."

 

[Luna Tiger]

*hand raise*

May we have an article on Diamond Dust now? If it can be found in three games, and only crops up in three specific locations on specific dates, none of which are listed anywhere on our gracious wiki, doesn't it warrant a bit of...oh...expanding upon? Y/Y?

 

[MC151]

Re: Sturdy

last line of the first section:
"Pokémon holding a Focus Sash and those with Sturdy in Generation V will be instead reduced to 1 HP by a OHKO move."

No I mean I tried it and it didn't do any damage, it worked like it did in generations 3 and 4.

 

[Pika3323]

*hand raise*

May we have an article on Diamond Dust now? If it can be found in three games, and only crops up in three specific locations on specific dates, none of which are listed anywhere on our gracious wiki, doesn't it warrant a bit of...oh...expanding upon? Y/Y?

Here?
Wouldn't that do fine?

 

[Luna Tiger]

Here?
Wouldn't that do fine?

Hasn't done fine so far.

Diamond dust is a special event effect. The fact that it's a footnote with little to no information is underplaying its special snowflake status.

 

[TorchicBlaziken]

The Faraway place page needs a Japanese name.

List of Generation V locations by index number:

The non-in-game ones don't have definite English names that I know of. Even though the ones at the end say the same thing as Stranger did, I don't know if they say Stranger.

I don't know if the Link Trade locations are arrive and met in that order as in Generation IV.

Will anyone who can, check?

0,(None)
1,Mystery Zone
2,Faraway place
3,の
4,Nuvema Town
5,Accumula Town
6,Striaton City
7,Nacrene City
8,Castelia City
9,Nimbasa City
10,Driftveil City
11,Mistralton City
12,Icirrus City
13,Opelucid City
14,Route 1
15,Route 2
16,Route 3
17,Route 4
18,Route 5
19,Route 6
20,Route 7
21,Route 8
22,Route 9
23,Route 10
24,Route 11
25,Route 12
26,Route 13
27,Route 14
28,Route 15
29,Route 16
30,Route 17
31,Route 18
32,Dreamyard
33,Pinwheel Forest
34,Desert Resort
35,Relic Castle
36,Cold Storage
37,Chargestone Cave
38,Twist Mountain
39,Dragonspiral Tower
40,Victory Road
41,Lacunosa Town
42,Undella Town
43,Anville Town
44,Pokémon League
45,N's Castle
46,Royal Unova
47,Gear Station
48,Battle Subway
49,Musical Theater
50,Black City
51,White Forest
52,Unity Tower
53,Wellspring Cave
54,Mistralton Cave
55,Rumination Field
56,Celestial Tower
57,Moor of Icirrus
58,Shopping Mall
59,Challenger's Cave
60,Poké Transfer Lab
61,Giant Chasm
62,Liberty Garden
63,P2 Laboratory
64,Skyarrow Bridge
65,Driftveil Drawbridge
66,Tubeline Bridge
67,Village Bridge
68,Marvelous Bridge
69,Entralink
70,Abundant Shrine
71,Undella Bay
72,Lostlorn Forest
73,Trial Chamber
74,Guidance Chamber
75,Entree Forest
76,Nimbasa City
77,Driftveil City
78,Mistralton City
79,Icirrus City
80,Opelucid City
81,Nuvema Town
82,White Forest
83,Black City
84,Cold Storage
85,Chargestone Cave
86,Twist Mountain
87,Dragonspiral Tower
88,Giant Chasm
89,Driftveil Drawbridge
90,Tubeline Bridge
91,Village Bridge
92,Marvelous Bridge
93,Route 5
94,Route 6
95,Route 7
96,Route 8
97,Route 9
98,Route 11
99,Route 12
100,Route 13
101,Route 14
102,Route 15
103,Route 16
104,Lacunosa Town
105,Undella Town
106,Accumula Gate
107,Undella Gate
108,Nacrene Gate
109,Castelia Gate
110,Nimbasa Gate
111,Opelucid Gate
112,Black Gate
113,White Gate
114,Bridge Gate
115,Route Gate
116,Abyssal Ruins
30001,Poké Transfer
30002,Link Trade (arrive?)
30003,Link Trade (met?)
30004,Kanto
30005,Johto
30006,Hoenn
30007,Sinnoh
30008,Distant Land
30009,－－－－－－－－－－
30010,Relocator (Celebi)
30011,Castelia City (after Zorua event)
30012,Relocator (Beasts)
30013,Lostlorn Forest (after Zoroark event)
30014,Entree Forest
40001,Lovely Place
40003,Pokémon Movie
40004,Pokémon Movie 10
40005,Pokémon Movie 11
40006,Pokémon Movie 12
40007,Pokémon Movie 13
40008,Pokémon Movie 14
40009,Pokémon Movie 15
40010,Pokémon Movie 16
40011,Pokémon Movie 17
40012,Pokémon Movie 18
40013,Pokémon Movie 19
40014,Pokémon Movie 20
40015,Pokémon Center
40016,Pokémon Cartoon
40017,PC Tokyo
40018,PC Osaka
40019,PC Fukuoka
40020,PC Nagoya
40021,PC Sapporo
40022,PC Yokohama
40023,WCS
40024,WCS 2010
40025,WCS 2011
40026,WCS 2012
40027,WCS 2013
40028,WCS 2014
40029,WCS 2015
40030,WCS 2016
40031,WCS 2017
40032,WCS 2018
40033,WCS 2019
40034,WCS 2020
40035,Worlds
40036,Worlds 2010
40037,Worlds 2011
40038,Worlds 2012
40039,Worlds 2013
40040,Worlds 2014
40041,Worlds 2015
40042,Worlds 2016
40043,Worlds 2017
40044,Worlds 2018
40045,Worlds 2019
40046,Worlds 2020
40047,VGE
40048,VGE 2010
40049,VGE 2011
40050,VGE 2012
40051,VGE 2013
40052,VGE 2014
40053,VGE 2015
40054,VGE 2016
40055,VGE 2017
40056,VGE 2018
40057,VGE 2019
40058,VGE 2020
40059,Pokémon Event
40060,Battle Competition
40061,Game Event
40062,Pokémon Fan Club
40063,Pokémon Sunday
40064,Challenge Plaza
40065,Battle Challenge
40066,Trainers' Court
40067,Battle Tour
40068,Concert
40069,Wi-Fi Gift
40070,Pokémon Ranger
40071,Ranger Union
40072,PBR
40073,Pokémon DW
40074,Pokémon Event 10
40075,Pokémon Event 11
40076,Pokémon Event 12
40077,Pokémon Event 13
40078,Pokémon Event 14
40079,Pokémon Event 15
40080,Pokémon Event 16
40081,Pokémon Event 17
40082,Pokémon Event 18
40083,Pokémon Event 19
40084,Pokémon Event 20
40085,Pokémon Festa
40086,Pokémon Festa 10
40087,Pokémon Festa 11
40088,Pokémon Festa 12
40089,Pokémon Festa 13
40090,Pokémon Festa 14
40091,Pokémon Festa 15
40092,Pokémon Festa 16
40093,Pokémon Festa 17
40094,Pokémon Festa 18
40095,Pokémon Festa 19
40096,Pokémon Festa 20
40097,POKéPARK
40098,POKéPARK 10
40099,POKéPARK 11
40100,POKéPARK 12
40101,POKéPARK 13
40102,POKéPARK 14
40103,POKéPARK 15
40104,POKéPARK 16
40105,POKéPARK 17
40106,POKéPARK 18
40107,POKéPARK 19
40108,POKéPARK 20
40109,Event Site
60001,Stranger
60002,Day-Care Couple
60003,Treasure Hunter
60004,遠くにいる人2
60005,遠くにいる人3
60006,遠くにいる人4
60007,遠くにいる人5
60008,遠くにいる人6
60009,遠くにいる人7
60010,遠くにいる人8
60011,遠くにいる人9
60012,遠くにいる人10
60013,遠くにいる人11
60014,遠くにいる人12
60015,遠くにいる人13
60016,遠くにいる人14
60017,遠くにいる人15
60018,遠くにいる人16
60019,遠くにいる人17
60020,遠くにいる人18
60021,遠くにいる人19
60022,遠くにいる人20
60023,遠くにいる人21
60024,遠くにいる人22
60025,遠くにいる人23
60026,遠くにいる人24
60027,遠くにいる人25
60028,遠くにいる人26
60029,遠くにいる人27

NOTE: Battle Subway is not the same thing as Gear Station: it is the place with all the benches that you reach after a seven-win streak.

 

[KFox]

What if on the experience page or maybe the level page someone could add information about things that happen at level 100 for each gen? Like no longer being able to gain experience, or evolve, or the PC trick for updating EVs? These things have always confused me and it'd be nice to have it laid out in one place.

 

[SnorlaxMonster]

Hasn't done fine so far.

Diamond dust is a special event effect. The fact that it's a footnote with little to no information is underplaying its special snowflake status.

I guess it could have its own section on that page, especially since it doesn't cause Hail battle unlike the other types of snow/hail. But if the true weather conditions don't get their own pages, I don't see why a purely aesthetic one does.

What if on the experience page or maybe the level page someone could add information about things that happen at level 100 for each gen? Like no longer being able to gain experience, or evolve, or the PC trick for updating EVs? These things have always confused me and it'd be nice to have it laid out in one place.

How's this? I used some content that was already there and wrote a bit myself to write it, and searching "Level 100" redirects there.