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Re: {some rise by sin} {chapter eight: a penny for the old guy}
This was no hardship to judge. Not that this means I went easy on you - nope, I was as critical of you as you are of me
Plot
There's a very good story to be had in some rise by sin. It is at it's heart a story that keeps you guessing – a lot of the usual tropes of the journey fic are completely averted. The central ideas of the plot – a Team Rocket dictatorship and the electrical apocalypse – are played out in a way that feels very real and does not demand the reader to keep suspending their disbelief.
The story does take a little while to really start going, but the relatively short length of the chapters and strong focus of each chapter offsets this. At times, particularly in the first few chapters, we get more exposition regarding the Rocket regime than we really need.
Setting
The setting is the weakest part of this story. There is a lot of imagination in the building of the dictatorship-Johto, but most of that is told in exposition and a lot of it quickly becomes effectively irrelevant to the rest of the story. The atmosphere and strong narrative voice offset the general sparsity in description of the world, but nevertheless the world isn't brought fully to life.
Characterisation
Characterisation is handled very well. The unnamed protagonist's personality comes through well in the first-person narrative, and avoids the usual pitfalls of the bright teenage girl protagonist. The pokémon characters are two examples of cliché's written well – Icarus' savagery and Gaia's timid nature both add a lot to the atmosphere of the story in their own ways.
Where the characterisation falls down, however, is in Silver. His character comes straight out of the sadistic villain handbook, and comes across as just a bit too cartoonish for the story.
Style
An excellent grasp of story telling is immediately evident in this piece. The dark nature of the story is immediately apparent and stays just on the right side of dark without becoming melodramatic. Black humour is used to great effect to break up the dingy moments. The humour, most importantly, is smart without becoming smartass.
Technical
Almost flawless. There are a few technical errors to be found if one really looks for them.
Final Thoughts
In general, some rise by sin is a very well thought out and written story. The balance between humour and drama, cliché and original thinking is nearly spot on. There's a steady improvement evident as the story continues, particularly in regards to the protagonist's inner monologue. The maturity with which the subject matter is handled is what really makes the story stand out among other dark fics.
Constructive Criticism
Most of what I could say you've probably heard before. Looking again at the story after following it serially for a long time, I think that the individual concerns I had during the start of the story feel less important when you can read several chapters at once. I still think the world needs to be a bit more vivid. Ok so Unnamed doesn't know she's looking at an oak or a baobab, but you can still describe visually what she sees. I think this will become especially important from now on where you have to convince us that we're seeing a Johto that is rapidly changing from what we're used to. Speaking of Unnamed ...
Depth
I can believe that Unnamed is a real person. Through the course of the narration there's enough there to show that there is a thinking person with a history behind them. Unnamed's reactions to events give away most about her character, particularly in the steadily melting logic that she exhibits during her conflict with Silver. There are hints of other aspects of her character and backstory, however, the pure survivalism of the narrative restricts the extent to which this can be shown.
Originality
Unnamed is not by any means the most original of protagonists – it would be more accurate to say that she is a cliché written well. The deliberate lack of backstory or even physical description is unusual, and what is remarkable about that is that it works nevertheless.
Entertainment Value
Considering that the story is written first-person, it simply wouldn't work if Unnamed wasn't at least moderately entertaining. As it stands, Unnamed's wit and humanity is endearing to read about. The balance between dramatic responses and black humour is good, and the self-deprecatory snarkiness is a refreshing change when seen in a teen protagonist.
Contribution to Plot
Unnamed IS the plot of some rise by sin. Since the story works well, I think it's fair to say that Unnamed's contribution is top notch.
Final Thoughts
The flaws, as I see them, are that for the first few chapters Unnamed's internal monologue tends to monologue for a long time. It takes a long time for Unnamed's softer side to show, and I feel that this is a problem given that she is, after all, a teenage girl. Nevertheless neither of these flaws are so large that I feel they detract from what is, all in all, a well-written character.
Constructive Criticism
The big one at this point is that I think you're still treating Unnamed's story as a journeyfic with some blood in it. The world has ended, people need to be practical, true, true, but as yet we know almost nothing about Unnamed's life before the solar storm, or for that matter how she feels about losing it. Does she worry about how her mother is surviving, for example? Now that the immediate threat of execution is at least moderately solved, I think questions like this need to start being answered. As for Icarus
Depth
Mysterious as he is, Icarus is at the moment very much a one-note character. There's definitely some hints of hidden depths in his apparent attachment to Unnamed, and in his willingness to hold back when ordered to.
Originality
A mixed bag here. To see a Murkrow in pokémon fanfiction is unusual, especially as a starter. One could argue that depicting Dark-types as actually being vicious by nature is unusual, and it's certainly a departure from the usual canon depictions. Aside from that, Icarus is rather by-the-numbers. The parrot-speak, the bloodthirsty nature, the antagonistic speech are all things - though not done badly - that I've seen before.
Entertainment Value
By himself I suspect Icarus wouldn't be terribly entertaining, but he doesn't take over the plot, and outside Chapter 3 his antics are used sparingly enough to prevent them from becoming annoying. His cunning nature fits in well with the theme of Dark-types in general and is amusing to read about as it plays out in battle.
Contribution to Plot
Icarus is actually quite a clever conception. His typing is really what drives the plot, though Unnamed might be the focus. The problem that Icarus poses is straightforward and very easy to get across quickly, which is very handy for a story that could easily be heavy with exposition.
Final Thoughts
Overall Icarus is the right sort of pokémon for the story. Taken out of context there's not a huge amount that's especially clever about him, but given the story that he is in and the role he plays in the plot, he works well as a character regardless.
Constructive Criticism
I don't have much of a problem with pokémon being very much secondary characters. They can get away with being one-note for much longer than humans. It's hard to say what could be improved for me as far as Icarus is concerned, since you've more or less avoided the big problems and I suspect the rest is down to personal preference. And finally
Depth
There is a surprising amount of depth from a character that expresses itself with “Piii!” Gaia seems to have her own idea of ethics and is capable of having logical thoughts, if Icarus' translations are to be trusted.
Originality
I've never seen a Caterpie used in quite this way before. The usual role of bugs in pokémon fanfic is to be passed over by the protagonists as being too weak to be bothering with – yes, Gaia does get some of that treatment, but her use to Unnamed as a decoy works well as a subversion of that.
Entertainment Value
Gaia is terribly endearing as the bemused underdog of the story. It's hard not to root for this little Caterpie plucked unceremoniously from the trees by a Murkrow. In a story that very quickly makes clear that it will be a dark world, it's a gratifying surprise to see sweet-hearted Gaia as the foil to Icarus.
Contribution to Plot
Gaia brings some much needed sweetness to balance out the darkness of the plot. Aside from forming a keystone in Unnamed's plans to avoid arrest, Gaia takes on a more proactive role in battle than one would expect from, of all things, a Caterpie.
Final Thoughts
There is a lot good to be said for Gaia. She manages to play several important roles in the same story without the need for lengthy exposition and conveys a lot of personality even without constant translation.
Constructive Criticism
You need Gaia. Gaia is the warm heart of the story, at the moment, which balances the darkness a bit and gives it bite. Gaia alone won't be able to shoulder that role for the length of the story, I reckon, so I wouldn't try and leave it at that
This was no hardship to judge. Not that this means I went easy on you - nope, I was as critical of you as you are of me
Plot
There's a very good story to be had in some rise by sin. It is at it's heart a story that keeps you guessing – a lot of the usual tropes of the journey fic are completely averted. The central ideas of the plot – a Team Rocket dictatorship and the electrical apocalypse – are played out in a way that feels very real and does not demand the reader to keep suspending their disbelief.
The story does take a little while to really start going, but the relatively short length of the chapters and strong focus of each chapter offsets this. At times, particularly in the first few chapters, we get more exposition regarding the Rocket regime than we really need.
Setting
The setting is the weakest part of this story. There is a lot of imagination in the building of the dictatorship-Johto, but most of that is told in exposition and a lot of it quickly becomes effectively irrelevant to the rest of the story. The atmosphere and strong narrative voice offset the general sparsity in description of the world, but nevertheless the world isn't brought fully to life.
Characterisation
Characterisation is handled very well. The unnamed protagonist's personality comes through well in the first-person narrative, and avoids the usual pitfalls of the bright teenage girl protagonist. The pokémon characters are two examples of cliché's written well – Icarus' savagery and Gaia's timid nature both add a lot to the atmosphere of the story in their own ways.
Where the characterisation falls down, however, is in Silver. His character comes straight out of the sadistic villain handbook, and comes across as just a bit too cartoonish for the story.
Style
An excellent grasp of story telling is immediately evident in this piece. The dark nature of the story is immediately apparent and stays just on the right side of dark without becoming melodramatic. Black humour is used to great effect to break up the dingy moments. The humour, most importantly, is smart without becoming smartass.
Technical
Almost flawless. There are a few technical errors to be found if one really looks for them.
Final Thoughts
In general, some rise by sin is a very well thought out and written story. The balance between humour and drama, cliché and original thinking is nearly spot on. There's a steady improvement evident as the story continues, particularly in regards to the protagonist's inner monologue. The maturity with which the subject matter is handled is what really makes the story stand out among other dark fics.
Constructive Criticism
Most of what I could say you've probably heard before. Looking again at the story after following it serially for a long time, I think that the individual concerns I had during the start of the story feel less important when you can read several chapters at once. I still think the world needs to be a bit more vivid. Ok so Unnamed doesn't know she's looking at an oak or a baobab, but you can still describe visually what she sees. I think this will become especially important from now on where you have to convince us that we're seeing a Johto that is rapidly changing from what we're used to. Speaking of Unnamed ...
Depth
I can believe that Unnamed is a real person. Through the course of the narration there's enough there to show that there is a thinking person with a history behind them. Unnamed's reactions to events give away most about her character, particularly in the steadily melting logic that she exhibits during her conflict with Silver. There are hints of other aspects of her character and backstory, however, the pure survivalism of the narrative restricts the extent to which this can be shown.
Originality
Unnamed is not by any means the most original of protagonists – it would be more accurate to say that she is a cliché written well. The deliberate lack of backstory or even physical description is unusual, and what is remarkable about that is that it works nevertheless.
Entertainment Value
Considering that the story is written first-person, it simply wouldn't work if Unnamed wasn't at least moderately entertaining. As it stands, Unnamed's wit and humanity is endearing to read about. The balance between dramatic responses and black humour is good, and the self-deprecatory snarkiness is a refreshing change when seen in a teen protagonist.
Contribution to Plot
Unnamed IS the plot of some rise by sin. Since the story works well, I think it's fair to say that Unnamed's contribution is top notch.
Final Thoughts
The flaws, as I see them, are that for the first few chapters Unnamed's internal monologue tends to monologue for a long time. It takes a long time for Unnamed's softer side to show, and I feel that this is a problem given that she is, after all, a teenage girl. Nevertheless neither of these flaws are so large that I feel they detract from what is, all in all, a well-written character.
Constructive Criticism
The big one at this point is that I think you're still treating Unnamed's story as a journeyfic with some blood in it. The world has ended, people need to be practical, true, true, but as yet we know almost nothing about Unnamed's life before the solar storm, or for that matter how she feels about losing it. Does she worry about how her mother is surviving, for example? Now that the immediate threat of execution is at least moderately solved, I think questions like this need to start being answered. As for Icarus
Depth
Mysterious as he is, Icarus is at the moment very much a one-note character. There's definitely some hints of hidden depths in his apparent attachment to Unnamed, and in his willingness to hold back when ordered to.
Originality
A mixed bag here. To see a Murkrow in pokémon fanfiction is unusual, especially as a starter. One could argue that depicting Dark-types as actually being vicious by nature is unusual, and it's certainly a departure from the usual canon depictions. Aside from that, Icarus is rather by-the-numbers. The parrot-speak, the bloodthirsty nature, the antagonistic speech are all things - though not done badly - that I've seen before.
Entertainment Value
By himself I suspect Icarus wouldn't be terribly entertaining, but he doesn't take over the plot, and outside Chapter 3 his antics are used sparingly enough to prevent them from becoming annoying. His cunning nature fits in well with the theme of Dark-types in general and is amusing to read about as it plays out in battle.
Contribution to Plot
Icarus is actually quite a clever conception. His typing is really what drives the plot, though Unnamed might be the focus. The problem that Icarus poses is straightforward and very easy to get across quickly, which is very handy for a story that could easily be heavy with exposition.
Final Thoughts
Overall Icarus is the right sort of pokémon for the story. Taken out of context there's not a huge amount that's especially clever about him, but given the story that he is in and the role he plays in the plot, he works well as a character regardless.
Constructive Criticism
I don't have much of a problem with pokémon being very much secondary characters. They can get away with being one-note for much longer than humans. It's hard to say what could be improved for me as far as Icarus is concerned, since you've more or less avoided the big problems and I suspect the rest is down to personal preference. And finally
Depth
There is a surprising amount of depth from a character that expresses itself with “Piii!” Gaia seems to have her own idea of ethics and is capable of having logical thoughts, if Icarus' translations are to be trusted.
Originality
I've never seen a Caterpie used in quite this way before. The usual role of bugs in pokémon fanfic is to be passed over by the protagonists as being too weak to be bothering with – yes, Gaia does get some of that treatment, but her use to Unnamed as a decoy works well as a subversion of that.
Entertainment Value
Gaia is terribly endearing as the bemused underdog of the story. It's hard not to root for this little Caterpie plucked unceremoniously from the trees by a Murkrow. In a story that very quickly makes clear that it will be a dark world, it's a gratifying surprise to see sweet-hearted Gaia as the foil to Icarus.
Contribution to Plot
Gaia brings some much needed sweetness to balance out the darkness of the plot. Aside from forming a keystone in Unnamed's plans to avoid arrest, Gaia takes on a more proactive role in battle than one would expect from, of all things, a Caterpie.
Final Thoughts
There is a lot good to be said for Gaia. She manages to play several important roles in the same story without the need for lengthy exposition and conveys a lot of personality even without constant translation.
Constructive Criticism
You need Gaia. Gaia is the warm heart of the story, at the moment, which balances the darkness a bit and gives it bite. Gaia alone won't be able to shoulder that role for the length of the story, I reckon, so I wouldn't try and leave it at that