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Generation VI: The Future

What will it be?


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i don't think we're done with kanto, however i cant't see the next game being a kanto remake/sequel, i think a sequel to oras or xy is much more likely and i see it coming out this year, then either gen 7 or a kanto remake for the 20th anviersary but even then i still think a new region is more likely, without a doubt in my mind there will be another kanto game but i dont see it coming for a while, hell it might even come after a sinnoh remake, because i see that coming in the next 3/4 years because it will be over 10 years since dp, so in my mind kanto will come again but soon i don't think so and i would personally enjoy something in hoenn again asa ong as it was like bw2 but maybe 5 years in thr future

also i don't get why people are saying kanto is done, if it was just another remake that would be a let down, but a sequel would be amazing in my mind
 
If only people kept in mind that Arceus has a big role in the Hoopa movie - haven't people thought it has a new form/Mega? We only know that the movie SO FAR promotes just ORAS, but simply stating it only promotes ORAS when it hasn't even been in theaters yet doesn't make sense.
 
I imagine we'll get something towards the end of this year, I think it's just a question of what it is exactly. It could be a new game or even a DLC of some sort. While it's not entirely Game Freak-related, it's interesting to note that Smash Bros is getting a Mewtwo-related DLC. That may or may not mean that they'll start making DLC's for the Pokemon games in the near future, we don't know.

The fact that we keep going in circles like this with speculation means that we will likely be unexpectedly surprised. Which is precisely what GF says it wants all along. And it's a good thing. Give us something unexpected and really surprising, I say.
 
I imagine we'll get something towards the end of this year, I think it's just a question of what it is exactly. It could be a new game or even a DLC of some sort. While it's not entirely Game Freak-related, it's interesting to note that Smash Bros is getting a Mewtwo-related DLC. That may or may not mean that they'll start making DLC's for the Pokemon games in the near future, we don't know.

The fact that we keep going in circles like this with speculation means that we will likely be unexpectedly surprised. Which is precisely what GF says it wants all along. And it's a good thing. Give us something unexpected and really surprising, I say.

I think the Mewtwo DLC, could be another hint towards Gen 1 remakes.

Something I have wondered, the concept of Amiibo is very similar to Pokemon, ie you collect them, and can battle with them, level them up etc, I wonder if one of the next games might be Amiibo compatible, f.e if you use the Pika amiibo you get a special Pika ingame, same with Charizard, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo etc.
 
I think it's a stretch to say that Mewtwo in Smash is Kanto game propaganda. The Smash community have been crying out for Mewtwo since Brawl came out, it's just answering fan demand.

As for Amiibo, haven't Game Freak expressed interest in that as well as the New 3DS? Amiibo compatibility would be a nice bonus.
 
I'm sure Nintendo will gently coerce Game Freak to implement Amiibo regardless of whether Game Freak were planning to or not. Imagine the amount of money they could pull in from Pokemon Amiibos. They'd need to get on top of the stock issue though, as they seem to go out of stock everywhere pretty fast from what I hear, which isn't exactly great considering this is supposed to be Nintendo's big venture and they can't even generate good levels of stock.
 
From the top of my head:
-Kanto Starters
-Snorlax blocking the road, requiring the pokeflute to wake it up.
-Lapras given so you can surf, as well as having the only surf model.
Post league legendaries where basically gen 1 plus Zygarde.

You're just looking at XY though, ORAS is part of this gen too.
-All starters are available in Gen 6
-Lucario given so you can mega evolve (does this mean too much Gen 4?)
-Wailmer and Sharpedo now have models too
-All non event legendaries are now available post game, be they gen 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6

The only thing that is a direct link to Gen 1 that I can't answer is Snorlax and the Poke Flute, but personally in my opinion I don't really think that can be counted as too much of Gen 1, can it? If anything it serves more as a hint to a Gen 1 remake.

I reckon that all of the points given by Mitchman can be interpreted as direct references to Generation 1. You argue that all starters are now available in this generation across X/Y and OR/AS, yet apart from the Kalos and Hoenn starters in their respective games it is only the Kanto starters that you can receive during the badge quest in X/Y. When this is added together with the Snorlax, Lapras and Mewtwo scenarios as well as the ability to capture one of the three Legendary Birds, a Gen VI Kanto remake (at least one that stays faithful to the original R&G/B, ala FR/LG) would feel like too much of a retread for my liking.

If there's to be a 20th Anniversary Kanto game at all, I would like a new adventure that mixes things up. It would be similar to B2W2 in terms of us seeing more Pokemon variation and new areas to explore. I haven't thought too much about how I would like these new games to be presented, but I would certainly like Mew to play a significant role, now that Game Freak have broken the formula of Pokemon being event-exclusive with Deoxys' inclusion in ORAS' Delta Episode.

The only thing that I would suggest in favour of a traditional Gen 1 remake is that FR/LG were released a decade ago on a now obsolete platform, meaning that at a stretch the current target audience may have only experienced Kanto via HG/SS. There's no telling whether Game Freak will re-release their main GB and GBA titles on the Virtual Console, but if other games currently on the VC are anything to go by, they would be stripped down experiences anyway due to a lack of multiplayer functionality.

While I would be happy enough with a 3DS remake of Kanto, for the reasons stated above I would definitely prefer a new take on the region that gives veteran players fresh twists to play through instead of more of the same from 1996 and 2004 rendered in 3D.
 
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Game Freak don't have to conform to this fan release pattern at all if they don't want to. It might be how they have done things for a few games, but that doesn't mean they can't change/adapt the release date to suit their needs in a situation, as opposed to this release date pattern dictating their every move.
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Edit: I should elaborate that ^ is in regards to the people saying that they won't break their release pattern for the 20th anniversary. The release date pattern is the one that fans think Game Freak have to live by (spring announcement with a fall release). They could easily change that to suit their needs for the 20th, if they wanted to, is what I'm saying.
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I think everyone should just keep an open mind about what could happen. I doubt many people would have predicted ORAS (or let's say the next games in general) to be revealed as early as seven months after XY; I'd bet most people who think they know Game Freak's release pattern would have said 1+ year after XY.

It's not as if that pattern doesn't exist for good reason. Winter is the industry's highest sales seasons. Also, for those of you expecting a 20th anniversary game keep in mind that Game Freak typically does not celebrate anniversaries with anything more than event. So in theory they could, but it doesn't seem like something they would do.

Also I agree with personally not wanting to revisit Kanto. If we do end up revisiting it, then I'd really like to see some big changes to the region because right now it's incredibly stale imo. And make it after a timeskip so everything about the region can change/evolve. I'm still not bothered for returning there myself. Would much rather see Kalos be given the B2W2 Unova treatment for the next game.

The only reason I want another Kanto game in the first place is so Kanto can give the BW2 treatment. The region has aged so poorly that it could use some fleshing out and major improvements.
 
Also, for those of you expecting a 20th anniversary game keep in mind that Game Freak typically does not celebrate anniversaries with anything more than event.

I'm not really expecting a game for the 20th, just being open to the idea that it's something they could do (and alter their release schedule around that).

A 20th anniversary is a big milestone for a franchise after all. Anniversaries before that aren't really notable outside of maybe a 10th; lots of game series have been going 10 years at this point, while there's not that many that can claim 20 years of solid sales and fans.
 
I'm sure Nintendo will gently coerce Game Freak to implement Amiibo regardless of whether Game Freak were planning to or not. Imagine the amount of money they could pull in from Pokemon Amiibos. They'd need to get on top of the stock issue though, as they seem to go out of stock everywhere pretty fast from what I hear, which isn't exactly great considering this is supposed to be Nintendo's big venture and they can't even generate good levels of stock.

I wouldn't mind Amiibo support so I can get Captain Falcon, Lucina, or maybe even Dr. Mario. Those are Pokemon right?
 
Kanto remakes after all that Kanto wanking is redundant? Maybe but, so are third versions. Not to mention all the pokes and legendaries are available besides events. Actually now that I think about it that makes Kanto games more feasible in a way. Think about it Kanto is the first gen, that means it was more limited content wise. Since they don't have to cover ground from previous gens anymore they can take a pretty barren region and go crazy adding stuff to it. Not that, that's game freak style but it would be pretty cool. I know reremakes and more Kanto pandering seems annoying but, you know what else is annoying? Pre-physical-special split and slow UI.

But getting Zygarde forms in Kanto remakes doesn't make sense and the moves.
 
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Arguably it could go either way really. Honestly I'm not the biggest Kanto guy but the stuff from third versions I care about is mostly added polished that could be applied to anything. Anything could have a battle facility tacked on at the end. Anything with gyms can have gym rematches.
 
I agree with most people on the Kanto re-remakes. I'd be here for them if it's not just the same damn thing we've experienced again and again. And again. And again. Literally, we've experienced the same region in the same way four times.

I need more areas. I need an expanded cross-gen evolution Pokédex made up of at least every Pokémon in the Kanto + Johto evolutionary families (GSC and the Sevii Islands show that Johto Pokémon live in Kanto) and throw in some extra Pokémon. Make that barren plain of a region vibrant and lush. Take some hints from the anime and add more mountains, some jungles, a desert, a tundra, something!

As for the Gym Leaders, I'm fine with the original 8. Same goes for the Elite 4. But god help Game Freak if I have to go through Team Rocket's lukewarm "let's just make money" plots again. There's a largely popular fan theory that Giovanni funded Mewtwo's creation in the games like he did in the anime, and that TR's actions in the games are just him trying to repent for making such a monstrosity. Game Freak should play with that. We know NOTHING of Giovanni's motivations, he's just the "let's make money" guy who presumably kills himself during the GSC/HGSS plotline.
 
I agree with most people on the Kanto re-remakes. I'd be here for them if it's not just the same damn thing we've experienced again and again. And again. And again. Literally, we've experienced the same region in the same way four times.

I need more areas. I need an expanded cross-gen evolution Pokédex made up of at least every Pokémon in the Kanto + Johto evolutionary families (GSC and the Sevii Islands show that Johto Pokémon live in Kanto) and throw in some extra Pokémon. Make that barren plain of a region vibrant and lush. Take some hints from the anime and add more mountains, some jungles, a desert, a tundra, something!

As for the Gym Leaders, I'm fine with the original 8. Same goes for the Elite 4. But god help Game Freak if I have to go through Team Rocket's lukewarm "let's just make money" plots again. There's a largely popular fan theory that Giovanni funded Mewtwo's creation in the games like he did in the anime, and that TR's actions in the games are just him trying to repent for making such a monstrosity. Game Freak should play with that. We know NOTHING of Giovanni's motivations, he's just the "let's make money" guy who presumably kills himself during the GSC/HGSS plotline.

I think his motivations are more, get the Masterball to catch Mewtwo to use for power rather than any attempt and trying to repent.

This is part of the reason why I want Kanto remakes, looking at ORAS they expanded on the story much more, and the Magma/Aqua reasoning and it made more sense.
I'd love to see the same for Kanto, where TR actually has one coherent plot in regards to catching Mewtwo.
You could even twist in the legendary birds, maybe TR want to catch Moltres (red) or Articuno (blue) as they want a powerful Pokemon to take on mewtwo. Maybe zapdos can worm its way in somewhere. you can catch it as its SE against both Moltres and Articuno?
 
If only people kept in mind that Arceus has a big role in the Hoopa movie - haven't people thought it has a new form/Mega? We only know that the movie SO FAR promotes just ORAS, but simply stating it only promotes ORAS when it hasn't even been in theaters yet doesn't make sense.
After realizing that the nomads have a symbol for Arceus as well as the Antagonist in Movie 18, I've been wondering that as well. Mega/Primal Arceus could be the ulterior motive for the antagonist, with Hoopa Unbounded as a catalyst. How that would work, or why that would exist in a new game is beyond me though.
From the top of my head:
-Kanto Starters
-Snorlax blocking the road, requiring the pokeflute to wake it up.
-Lapras given so you can surf, as well as having the only surf model.
Post league legendaries where basically gen 1 plus Zygarde.

You're just looking at XY though, ORAS is part of this gen too.
-All starters are available in Gen 6
-Lucario given so you can mega evolve (does this mean too much Gen 4?)
-Wailmer and Sharpedo now have models too
-All non event legendaries are now available post game, be they gen 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6

The only thing that is a direct link to Gen 1 that I can't answer is Snorlax and the Poke Flute, but personally in my opinion I don't really think that can be counted as too much of Gen 1, can it? If anything it serves more as a hint to a Gen 1 remake.

I reckon that all of the points given by Mitchman can be interpreted as direct references to Generation 1. You argue that all starters are now available in this generation across X/Y and OR/AS, yet apart from the Kalos and Hoenn starters in their respective games it is only the Kanto starters that you can receive during the badge quest in X/Y. When this is added together with the Snorlax, Lapras and Mewtwo scenarios as well as the ability to capture one of the three Legendary Birds, a Gen VI Kanto remake (at least one that stays faithful to the original R&G/B, ala FR/LG) would feel like too much of a retread for my liking.

If there's to be a 20th Anniversary Kanto game at all, I would like a new adventure that mixes things up. It would be similar to B2W2 in terms of us seeing more Pokemon variation and new areas to explore. I haven't thought too much about how I would like these new games to be presented, but I would certainly like Mew to play a significant role, now that Game Freak have broken the formula of Pokemon being event-exclusive with Deoxys' inclusion in ORAS' Delta Episode.

The only thing that I would suggest in favour of a traditional Gen 1 remake is that FR/LG were released a decade ago on a now obsolete platform, meaning that at a stretch the current target audience may have only experienced Kanto via HG/SS. There's no telling whether Game Freak will re-release their main GB and GBA titles on the Virtual Console, but if other games currently on the VC are anything to go by, they would be stripped down experiences anyway due to a lack of multiplayer functionality.

While I would be happy enough with a 3DS remake of Kanto, for the reasons stated above I would definitely prefer a new take on the region that gives veteran players fresh twists to play through instead of more of the same from 1996 and 2004 rendered in 3D.
I basically agree with this, with a mix of the Strange Souvenir Region thrown in. Basically, if Gen 6 is over, and gen 7 happens for the 20th, they could do what silktree has been speculating, and focus on Guyana, with a mew central story. But still, Gen 6 oddly still feels like its in the middle, with gen 7 in 2017.


The only thing I haven't seen suggested yet on here is a Kalos Sequel duo, but with a Kanto post-game. If a Kalos sequel happens, that would likely take place a good year or two after XY. Which is already 7 or so years after HGSS, and a good 10 or so after RBY. So that takes care of the time-skip. The region could also be massively updated, with a story that involves Team Flare taking some sudden interest to Kanto. Or it could be a reverse situation, with a post game Kalos, with Zygarde awakening after some crazy stuff going down in Kanto. I dunno, but for some reason a Kalos-Kanto game for the 20th is so fucking out there that I somehow find this the most plausible situation in the end of all this. :/
 
Before ORAS announcement I was saying that (because of Kanto and Hoenn being the most outdated regions at that moment) this generation will focus on Kanto nostalgia only through XY and Origins most likely because of no plans to feature Kanto again and that Hoenn would get remakes. I don't think Kanto will return anytime soon because XY took major Kanto Megas that potential Kanto games could be hyped with. Lack of Megas/Primals for Johto and Sinnoh starters and legendaries is probably the sign of what will be focused on in the future.

I'm more concerned about what ORAS could potentially be expanded with. So far ORAS recreated Southern Island event, replaced Navel Rock and Birth Island with Sea Mauville and Delta Episode respectively. The missing event is Mew on Faraway Island from Emerald. In Gen III it was released only in Japan, but this time it could be made available worldwide, similarly to how Celebi event was Japan only in Gen II, but not in Gen IV. This event could work well with ORAS mechanics because Faraway Island could be brought by Hoopa and player would have to sneak to Mew several times in order to battle it (battle wouldn't start when player runs after Mew). If this event was part of DLC (the same DLC I hope would contain Battle Frontier and other Emerald things), then this DLC could be technically considered as Mew event with no end date, because it would have to be downloaded like regular events.
 
What will be the "next" Pokemon game?

Pokemon Z is a game that some think which will be next... I disagree though because maybe "like" Pokemon black and white their will be a sequel to Pokemon X and Y. Or it will be a remake for Pokemon Diamond, Pearl and platinum. Or Generation Seven.... Tell me what you think what Pokemon game will be coming next.
 
Gen two kanto is a glorified boss rush. So, that four times stuff is a tad misleading.
 
Re: What will be the "next" Pokemon game?

Pokemon Z is a game that some think which will be next... I disagree though because maybe "like" Pokemon black and white their will be a sequel to Pokemon X and Y. Or it will be a remake for Pokemon Diamond, Pearl and platinum. Or Generation Seven.... Tell me what you think what Pokemon game will be coming next.

It's one of three choices: Z, X2Y2 or Gen 7. Remakes of sinnoh and Kanto isn't happening.
 
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