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Here is a catalog of a few leaks over the last few months, these are all most likely fake however there is some interesting ideas to be seen here and anything can happen. The Alola Starters leaks where a record when it comes to leaks. That was the earliest we got something of this kind. So anything can happen.

If you find any new leaks, let me know and Ill add them to the main post

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Confirmed
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Unconfirmed
Starter Leaks

Riddler Leaks
  • Says the next game will be a reboot game
  • Posted a picture of Rebootmon as a hint (Rebootmon)
Trailer Leak (March 2018)
  • Games will be titled Pokémon You and Pokémon Me
  • Should be revealed in a Direct planned for this month however there is chatter they may put it in a Nintendo Direct
  • The graphics (models and environments) look much cleaner with hardly any outlines and less pixelated textures
  • Starters are a Grass Racoon with leaves as cheeks, a Fire Sheep with smoke like wool, and a Water Octopus with a translucent bubble head
  • Legends are a huge White and Blue Butterfly type thing, and a Dark Red Snake
  • We see a mini game for catching Pokémon. The Pokémon we see being caught in succession are: Lillipup, Ledyba, And Ekans
  • There is a village with a bunch of white buildings all connected by strings of colorful square flags. It is by the ocean and we see the player character walking through it as we see a bunch of NPCs and shops
  • We also see the player character go into a cave and then dive underwater
  • There is a sandy area where stone pillars rise up
  • There is also a glass type mirror maze thing we see the player character running through
Monster Riddler Leak (February 2018)
The first riddle hints at the starters

View: https://imgur.com/a/2sm6n


It is speculated to represent a Grass Shrew, Fire Minotaur, And Water Kappa

The second riddle, has not been solved just yet. Could hint at the legendaries, maybe...



View: https://imgur.com/a/1ZjBr

Italian Translator Leak (February 2018)
  • The titles may be Pokemon You And Pokemon Me
  • According to the translator, the translation team is almost halfway done their scripts with the last bunch of scripts dropping late March with their contracts likely being terminated by the Summer so the translator thinks a March announcement is likely and that a 2018 release is possible
  • The region name is Meania and the local food is Kottu which is described as being spicy
  • More on the region: The translations take place in a single location of the game the translator refers to as the "Green Area". It is said to be huge and is the only place mentioned in this script (excluding shops and villages). Also the fact that there are 60,000 words that need translation in this part of the game suggests that exploration will be bigger than normal
  • The term "Big Island" is also mentioned which could hint at the region. It is unknown if it refers to a single big island (as in the whole region) or the biggest island in a group of islands like Alola
  • No game titles are mentioned, the project is just called Pokemon Switch (This isn't really a relevant detail unless the game is literally called Pokemon Switch )
  • Within the area they translated, there are 17 (give or take) new Pokemon including the starters and a new Grass Pokemon (more on this below)
  • There will be a big fat Grass Pokemon that will be the "meme of the game", and will be given a lot of meme-ish mentions. It is unlikely a regional variant of Snorlax
  • The starters are described in a very vague sense by some of the NPCs. One mentions that females will have bigger ears, another mentions that you can see the fire in its eyes, and then there is one that people are confused by because they are not sure if they are looking at its real face
  • There is a new way to "lengthen the logic of capture them all" (This part was translated) and they mention that it will be like Spinda logic but amplified and not just Spinda. This could mean we will get randomly generated Pokemon variants like Spinda with its patterns.
  • Customization is likely to return as it is alluded to in the script
  • A new Pokemon will have the move Will-O-Wisp (Possibly the fire starter)
  • Silvan is a mysterious jungle boy that will be a recurring character (who will likely have a big role in the game) who follows you around but runs away if you try and interact with him. He is definitely being manipulated/scared by someone evil and although it isn't mentioned in the scripts, he may be related to some experiment relating to Pokemon and Humans
  • It looks like they introduced Halfway Stores where you can go to stay well furnished as you follow bigger exploration routes
  • There are 3 tutorials mentioned in the script which seem to be "triggers" for mini games which are detailed in other scripts (that they don't have) which means this/these mini game(s) (They never specified it was 3 tutorials for 3 different mini games, or 3 tutorials for 1)
  • 4 Moves are still mentioned in the game, however the translator believes something definitely will change when it comes to battling. A lot of NPC's mention the "Arena" which is a place where trainers go to fight and a lot of players mention they want to go there because battles are more exciting there. Also there are special items that are said to affect the field when activated. These special items are exclusive to the Arena and cant be assigned to Pokemon. The translator says this whole Arena thing sounds like something fun and new but they have a feeling that it will be like a Battle Royale 2.0
Marble Leak (January 2018)
Background:
Pokémon for Switch is the first game of Generation 8. It has been worked on to some extent since 2015 (assuming this was early design meetings) and is aiming for release in summer 2019. No name has been set in stone: the project is simply known as “Pokémon for Switch”, although internally it is referred to as “Pokémon Marble”. This is because the game is going for a Roman antiquity theme, taking place in a Mediterranean region, and the would fit traditional Pokémon naming conventions. Only one version appear to be in development, but since the game is still far out, there might be two versions eventually.

This new game has nothing to do with “Pokémon Stars”, which was intended to be an enhanced port of Sun/Moon produced by a small, mostly technical team to give the Switch a Pokémon game early, but which was cancelled in early 2017.
World:
“Pokémon Marble” is an open-world game made in a new engine for Switch. Parallels to BOTW are drawn all the time, one of the more obvious reasons being that a few designers from that team (no names) have been helping Game Freak out in the creation of this new world. The team is trying to stick with a consistent, historic theme for the world in “Marble”. In general, the futuristic aesthetic present in Pokemon games seems to have been cut down on, to the extent where I was told Magnemite and Porygon will not be in the game because they don’t fit the setting. Dynamic weather appears to be a big deal, with new weather conditions such as mist, heavy winds, acid rain and ash clouds being introduced. Not all of these might make it into the final game, but they are intended to shake up battles as well.
Pokemon:
- Trading with earlier handheld games will not be possible, although some limited interaction with Pokébank data is planned. Around 300 creatures haven been selected to include in the game (this includes around 80 new Pokémon), which means the rest of the Dex might not even appear in the game’s code.
- I haven’t seen any designs of new Pokémon, but this is what I’ve heard about:
- a Sphinx
- a gladiator Fighting-type;
- an “Aquila” eagle (Legendary);
- a wolf based on the Lupa Capitolina;
- a Pokémon that looks like a boat (I’m thinking this game’s Lapras);
- a laurel wreath Pokémon;
- a Steel-type that has a collection of Scutum shields for armor;
- a Fire-type goat;
- and finally, a camel.
- Regional variants of existing Pokémon will also return since they were very well-received in Sun/Moon. Tauros is one of the Pokémon getting this treatment.

- Pokémon models in “Marble” are based on the existing 3DS ones, but a lot of work is now being done in animations because 1. Battles are intended to look way more dynamic and physical (think: better than PBR for the Wii) and 2. Pokémon are intended to appear physically in the overworld, as wild Pokémon or as your companion in the field. Seems Game Freak wants to make a believable world where Pokémon actually live and roam around, and this is hard to do for 800+ creatures.
- There’s some aggressive cutting being done to facilitate the sort of game “Marble” is supposed to be. I have two very major examples of things that have been cut because they complicate the team’s vision for this game:
>The Flying-type and Levitate
Pokémon now either fly or they don’t, and you can tell by simply looking at them; the team figured no other signifier was really necessary at this point. The void left by Flying will be filled by two new types: Air (think Koffing, Drifloon) and Bird (Pidgey but also Psyduck). Other Pokémon with Flying simply lose the type or gain another, specifically Gyarados, who is now finally a Dragon-type!
>(Jelly)Fish-like Pokémon
Pokémon that can’t reasonably fight on land unless they’re magically floating are a major problem of logic, so Game Freak has decided to not include any in “Marble”, at least for battling purposes. So you can’t train a Goldeen or Tentacool, although Magikarp and Gyarados are somehow still in. (I’m thinking it helps that Magikarp being useless on land is kind of the point.)
Multiplayer:
- To be clear: this is a singeplayer game first and foremost, so no MMORPG.
- I did not realise this before because I view the Switch mainly as a home console, but two Switch units can apparently communicate wirelessly like the 3DS. “Marble” will use this for trading and battling.
- GTS will not be in this game because the team feels it’s too anonymous, which doesn’t gel with the Pokémon philosophy of having meaningful encounters and making friends.
- The game will allow for only one savefile per NNID.
Progression:
- Progression is non-linear, which means you can challenge Bosses (so not Gym Leaders) in any order you want because their strength scales with your own. Level scaling seems to apply to basically anything in the world except wild Pokémon.
- Catching has been changed significantly, with the addition of a separate minigame that triggers when you throw a Pokéball. Is said to make catching harder, and catching Pokémon at higher levels than your own nearly impossible.
- Pokémon will no longer evolve by reaching a certain level, but by visiting certain places on the map, obtaining items or interacting with the world in more specific ways. Example: Slowpoke will actually need a Shellder to bite his tail or head to evolve.
- The Pokémon League will return, but it will be closer to the tournament seen in the anime than to the Elite Four of earlier games.
- Exp. Share returns. As for difficulty options: it is being seriously considered because level scaling is now a thing, but it's obviously not a priority at this stage.
Story:
- I have very little information on what could be considered a “story”. “Marble” will allow you to freely explore the world so there might not be much of a linear, central story like in earlier games. It seems like this stuff is still not finalised at this stage, so there’s not much to share, except that there will be a new Legendary (the aforementioned “Aquila” eagle). The only characters I’ve heard about is the unnamed professor (another old man) and a seemingly important Boss character (shady Dark-type trainer).
Battles:
Battles still take place in a separate screen and are turn-based. My source stressed how it’s a big deal the game will actually cut certain moves (specifically Stealth Rock and Terrains are gone) and break with tradition in this regard, but more than anything that tells me the battle system wasn’t changed in any significant way, or the cutting of some moves wouldn’t be news.
- Pokémon will be restored to full HP after most encounters, and PP no longer exists. Status conditions like poison and burn do not heal automatically and can be caused and cured by interaction with your environment.
- Items can no longer be used in battle.
- For weaker wild Pokémon you can take out in one hit, you have the option to not go into the battle screen at all.
- Trainer battles and wild Pokémon battles have been split into two categories: aggressive and casual (that’s what I call them, not sure they’ll have any name in the game).

>“Aggressive battles”
Triggered by evil characters (think Team Rocket equivalent) that detect your presence, or by aggressive Pokémon in the field. In these battles, you will have only a few seconds to think about what move you’re going to use next, or what switch you will make. If you don’t choose in time, your Pokémon will incur the opponent’s attack first regardless of speed, after which it will use a move of its own choosing (random). If you lose a battle against an aggressive trainer, they will steal one of your Pokémon! To get it back, you’ll have to find the same trainer and reclaim it by beating him.
>“Casual battles”
Triggered when challenging regular trainers, and when attacking neutral Pokémon in the field. Regular trainers will not force you to fight them like all trainers did in earlier games. You will have infinite time to pick moves or make switches, and the opponents will allow you to switch Pokémon freely. Some of these can still be challenging but there is no consequence for losing.
Dex:
- Photography is a big deal in “Marble”: your Pokédex will include a camera option, and you will be required to photograph Pokémon in order to complete dex entries. Think Hyrule Compendium.
- I’ve also been told the team is looking at ways to make collecting Pokémon more rewarding. The division into several Dexes per island in Sun/Moon was one idea: it gave you more bars filling up at the same time. Sub-goals and daily challenges are being considered for “Marble”.
Other:
- The way Pokémon’s stats are calculated has changed (as they changed for RSE) though I don’t know the specifics. You will get to liberally “invest” stat points in the Pokémon you’re training to some extent. Could be a replacement for EVs but I’m not sure how similar the systems are.
- No sign of Mega Evolutions. Game Freak wants to bring Z-moves over because the Switch’s motion controls could be used to activate them, but it’s not a priority right now so we will see.

This surprised me as well, obviously having that connection is good for everyone and they could still change some of the game's mechanics without shelving Pokébank (RBY/GSC are also on Pokébank). I'm thinking Pokébank compatibility will eventually be restored, if not in Marble through updates, then certainly in the next game.

Sun/Moon went without Pokébank for a few months as well, it wouldn't be that big of a departure."
Polish Leak (January 2018)
In the last weeks I was in the marketing department of Nintendo Poland that in the last years became more active. I saw few Pokemon Switch trailers (for translation to Polish) that I guess were supposed to be released few months from now. They showed some pretty important stuff, I was surprised to find so much info this early. So, get ready guys, this might be weird.

So, the Games will be called Pokemon Unity and Pokemon Freedom. The box legends are:
-Dreagiris Dragon/Steel A very Majestic Long Dragon with parts that look like Medieval Knight armor. Gold with Red eyes.
-Indrairur Dragon/Grass A more magical Dragon, covered in grass with some colorful flowers.
I also saw the 1st and last stages of the starters, they are:
-Spiflora Grass/Bug a small spider, evolves into Florknitta Grass/Dark a Feminine brown Spider Standing up and with some webs in its arms
-Fyroal pure Fire a cute red baby horse Evolves into Unidian Fire/Fairy a bipedal Unicorn with white armor like elements
-Eellied pure Water an angry, slimy Blue Eel Evolves into Cryptoxi Water/Poison looks like a spiky Loch Ness monster with Purple venom dripping
This post is already long, this is all I’ll tell you now. Right now I have info for one more post. I could Maybe anwser some of your questions, but don’t expect too much more.

So, okay this is weird, but there are actually 2 regions, one bigger one smaller. The bigger one is Kuing and is definitely based on the UK. The smaller one is probably based on Ireland and is called Derin. In ”Unity” you start your Adventure in Kuing with Professor Alder. In ”Freedom” you start in Derin and you meet Professor Yew. You travel through both regions in both versions. The release date is January 1st 2019. I saw some new pokemon, I think I should make that a separate post.

In Polish I explained this. There is a Nintendo Polish branch, it’s small and still in development. The translated trailers are supposed to be ”a new era" for Nintendo Poland.
Guys, really I’m just here to share something I think you’d like to see before the official reveal, just like I did.

Some new pokemon I saw were:
-Beakright Normal/Flying small Brown bird with a yellow beak. Final evolution is Rock/Flying named Coaflight with wings made out of rocks. Didn’t see much of the mid evo, looks like bigger Beakright.
-Badgetor pure Normal badger with something like a theatrical mask on its head. Evolves into Normal/Ghost Badgore a bigger palet badger with a sad face and dead like Purple eyes.
-Silvish pure Bug a small grey Bug with mean eyes. Mid evo is a Silver Barrel like coccoon named Silker, Bug/Steel. Probably has a 3rd evo, didn’t see it though.
-Finphin Flying/Water a sound based Dolphin with levitate Evolves into Phinecho same typing, Looks simmilar, has some weird Blue armor
-pure Steel Steamacher Looks like a dream powered robot. Evolves into Yapunkine Steel/Poison type simmilar, but Looks broken and more angry with some metal spikes. Both have an ability that boosts power of both Fire and Water type moves
-Mindition a small levitating orange humanoid Psychic type, has a special ability that makes it Psychic/Fighting and creates 4 floating fists. I think It’s activated when Mindition’s HP goes below half.
-Squirro Normal/Fire red squirrel with a Big glowing tail in a weird shape
-Lagud Grass/Fairy a cute plant root with a 4 Leaf clover on its head
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Unverified Chinese Leak (December 2017)
The reason why I call it the "unverified Chinese leak" is because this is actually from another, English source who is getting their information from somewhere else and asked to be Anonymous. They mention translations being done in Chinese so it is very possible these are more "vague leaks from china", but it may actually be from multiple non-chinese sources

  • The Chinese localization team has already finished their version of the script
  • Generation 8 Pokémon have already been named and are currently being trademarked
  • The battle system has become changed, supposedly becoming more simplistic and it has been described as disrupting and damaging by some. It may be similar to Pokken or Digimon World (Semi turn based/real time)
Unknown Twitter Leak (December 2017)
  • The next game will be darker and the game rating might even be different
  • A number of scrapped things from Generation 6 will have a comeback
  • There may be a female rival
Chinese Forum (December 2017)
There has been talk among the Chinese forums about using the Joy Cons to throw Pokeballs and perform Z-Moves.
Chinese Leak 3.0? (December 2017)
According to the leaker, the next game will be a Kanto remake of sorts. The post was removed.
YouTube Leak (December 2017)
  • The game will be called Pokémon Indigo and will take place in a reimagined Kanto
  • There will be 96 new Pokémon and 48 new regional variants, The starters however, remain the same (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle), and some old legendary Pokémon appear (Birds, Beasts, Mew Duo, Jirachi, Deoxys, Ho-oh/Lugia, and Celebi)
  • Regarding the legendary Pokémon, all of them will be connected to Mew and the player will visit ruins of the ancient Culture that worshipped Mew
  • Voice acting will be featured but it will be gibberish, the Pokémon however will now say their own names like in the anime
  • The battles are now much faster
  • The game is not open world, but the world will be much bigger and offers more exploration, also the Pokémon models will be the same but the textures will be better and the visuals of the game will be brighter and more stylized
  • Set in the region of "Indigo" which includes Kanto, Johto, the Sevii Islands and some never before seen areas including a frozen tundra in west Johto. It is "assumed" that all generations will be referenced in some way. Regarding level cap, your Pokémon will be in the 40s by the end of Kanto, 50s after the Islands, and 70/80s by the end of Johto
  • Story wise its a combination of the original games, anime, and manga, however things will be different to make things more original
  • Natures now change on their own randomly, but can be influenced by interactions and items
  • Seasons, Day/Night, and over world Weather will return
  • The league is now a tournament featuring random trainers. There are 4 rounds and if you win, you will then face the E4 and Champion.
  • Mega Evolution doesn't return, neither does the PWT, HMs, or Pokeride
  • There is a new evolution mechanic that involves Joycons
  • Trainer customization returns
  • There will be in game events on certain holidays
  • The Hoenn starters are obtained in the wild and the Alolan starters can be "chosen "in the Sevii Islands
  • Plenty of Puzzles and Dungeons
  • Unknown will be treated more like a legendary
  • There are ways to quickly level up Pokémon
  • Human/Pokémon interactions are amplified, they are now treated as virtual pets you can pet, feed, play with, educate, discipline, and trai
  • Pokémon can be transferred from the 3Ds
  • Dunsparce and Unown don't get evolutions, and Tropius is in the regional dex
  • Random encounters are removed, instead Pokémon appear in the over world
  • There will be new mechanics improvements that will make Pokémon good
  • You can catch a special Pikachu early game
  • New evos and prevos for existing Pokémon
  • Difficulty mode (Beginner, Normal, Expert, Master) and an unlockable Nuzlocke mode
  • Mew gains a new form called "Voodoo Mew"
Reddit Leak (November 2017)
The leaker started leaking a bunch of information from a bunch of different games. They have had big hits, and a few misses (but they are not common), because their leaks come from different sources. They said that Pokémon Stars is/was real but was just a tech demo to see how it runs on the switch. Also they mention there is pressure on game freak to get the game out by the end of next year (2018)
Vacto Leak (November 2017)
  • Pokémon North And South, Takes place in the Vacto Region which is based off of Italy and will feature plenty of old buildings and detailed architecture to show off the power of the Switch
  • An announcement trailer is scheduled for January
  • This game in particular is being Co-developed by Nintendo
  • The Grass Starter is a Bear with a leaf cape. The Fire Starter is a Gecko with hot coal fingertips. The Water Starter is a Bird with seaweed feathers
  • The box legends are a Turtle and a Phoenix, both featuring 4 holes on their back where plasma like hands emerge
  • Some 1 to 2 stage Pokémon with Nega Evolutions now have the Mega Evolution as part of their normal evolution line
  • Vactoan Forms exist and there will be an Electric/Ground Raichu
  • There is a motion control gimmick and an expanded Pokeride system that uses them
  • Playing in Docked/Undocked mode changes the Pokémon that appear
Switch Leaker (September 2017)
  • Pokemon Rain And Shine, Based on New Zealand, Scheduled for release around September 2018 likely the 28th or 30th.
  • Right now the game is just concept art and a few demos to see how it runs on the Switch. There are currently 27 New Pokemon with the possibility of more being added later in development (In the first leak, they said there where 23 but they came back some time later and added a few in another post)
  • Starters are a Grass type fanged deer with a bunch of flowers around its neck. It becomes Grass/Fighting Type and grows large flowery antlers in its final form. Fire type snake with embers running along the side of its body. It becomes Fire/Poison and has a large wreath of fire around its head in its final form. And a Water type sea urchin with a large eye in the middle of its face. It becomes Water/Rock and it turns into a large golem with the original Urchin on top and two Urchins for hands and it uses a ball and chain like attacks in its final form
  • Rain legendary is a Dark/Electric Eagle with storm clouds for a tail and storm clouds surrounding its neck. Shine legendary is a Dragon/Fairy cobra with a Corona as a hood and featuring all the colours of the rainbow running down its body
  • Generic Pokemon include a 3 stage Normal type Regional Rodent based on a Groundhog/Gopher and gains Ground type, A 2 stage Flying type Regional Bird based on an Emu and gains Fighting type, A single stage Rock/Flying Cassowary, A single stage Water/Steel Ferrofluid Pokemon with an ability similar to Stance Change, and a Rock/Ghost Bleached Coral Pokemon with an ability that curses any Pokemon that makes physical contact
  • Pseudo Legendary is a Dragon/Steel Pangolin with scales forming a suit of armour and crown. It's signature move is called Royal Scales and sets up Dragon type Stealth Rocks which are not affected by Defog or Rapid Spin
  • New Regional Form Pokemon include a Dragon/Water Type Garchomp which has adapted to the fierce currents of the region and which features an ability called Riptide which doubles damage of Whirlpool like moves and makes their effects last twice as long. Rough skin is its hidden ability and when it Mega Evolves it becomes a bit faster and gains Swift Swim. Bug/Rock Skorupi line has adapted to the caves of the region and feature a new ability called Blackout which lowers accuracy the longer the Pokemon is on the field
Current Dex Based On The Information Above
001 Grass Deer

002 Grass Deer

003 Grass/Fighting Deer

004 Fire Snake

005 Fire Snake

006 Fire/Poison Snake

007 Water Sea Urchin

008 Water Sea Urchin

009 Water/Rock Sea Urchin

010 Normal Groundhog/Gopher

011 Normal Groundhog/Gopher

012 Normal/Ground Groundhog/Gopher

013 Flying Emu

014 Flying/Fighting Emu

015 Rock/Flying Cassowary

016 Water/Steel Ferrofluid

017 Rock/Ghost Bleached Coral

018 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

019 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

020 Dragon/Steel Pangolin Pseudo

021 Dragon/Water New Zealand Grachomp line

022 Dragon/Water New Zealand Garchomp line

023 Dragon/Water New Zealand Garchomp line

024 Bug/Rock New Zealand Skorupi Line

025 Bug/Rock New Zealand Skorupi Line

026 Dark/Electric Eagle Legendary

027 Dragon/Fairy Cobra
Dex Leak (May 2017)
Pokemon From Generation 1
Aerodactyl
Articuno
Ditto
Dratini
Dragonair
Eevee
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Flareon
Farfetch’d
Horsea
Seadra
Kabuto
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Machop
Machoke
Magikarp
Moltres
Omanyte
Omastar
Ponyta
Rapidash
Porygon
Vulpix
Ninetales
Zapdos

Variant Dragonite (Dragon/Water)
Variant Ekans (Poison/Water)
Variant Arbok (Poison/Water)
Variant Growlithe (Electric/Rock)
Variant Arcanine (Electric/Rock)
Variant Gyarados (Water/Dragon)
Variant Machamp (Fairy/Fighting)
Pokemon From Generation 2
Chikorita
Bayleef
Meganium
Cyndaquil
Quilava
Typhlosion
Dunsparce
Entei
Espeon
Umbreon
Ho-oh
Houndour
Houndoom
Kingdra
Lugia
Porygon2
Raikou
Shuckle
Suicune
Togepi
Togetic
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Unown

Variant Chinchou (Electric/Dark)
Variant Lanturn (Electric/Dark)
Variant Corsola (Rock/Steel)
Variant Stantler (Normal/Ghost)
Variant Qwilfish (Water/Steel)
Pokemon From Generation 3
Anorith
Armaldo
Feebas
Milotic
Latias
Latios
Lileep
Cradily
Numel
Camerupt
Poochyena
Mightyena
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Relicanth
Seviper
Trapinch
Vibrava
Flygon

Variant Tropius (Ground/Flying)
Pokemon From Generation 4
Carnivine
Finneon
Lumineon
Gallade
Heatran
Hippopotas
Hippowdon
Leafeon
Glaceon
Porygon-Z
Rotom
Starly
Staravia
Staraptor
Togekiss
Pokemon From Generation 5
Archen
Archeops
Axew
Fraxure
Haxorus
Basculin
Blitzle
Zebstrika
Deino
Zweilous
Hydreigon
Druddigon
Durant
Heatmor
Maractus
Petilil
Lilligant
Sandile
Krokorok
Krookodile
Rufflet
Braviary
Sigilyph
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Tirtouga
Carracosta

Variant Lillipup (Ice)
Variant Herdier (Ice)
Variant Stoutland (Ice)
Variant Litwick (Fire/Water)
Variant Lampent (Fire/Water)
Variant Chandelure (Fire/Water)
Variant Purrloin (Dark/Ice)
Variant Liepard (Dark/Ice)
Variant Vanillite (Ice/Psychic)
Variant Vanillish (Ice/Psychic)
Variant Vanilluxe (Ice/Psychic)
Pokemon From Generation 6
Bergmite
Avalugg
Bunnelby
Clauncher
Clawitzer
Helioptile
Heliolisk
Honedge
Doublade
Aegislash
Noibat
Noivern
Skrelp
Dragalge
Sylveon

Variant Diggersby (Ground/Dark)
Variant Goomy (Water/Ground)
Variant Sliggoo (Water/Ground)
Variant Goodra (Water/Ground)
Variant Skiddo (Fire)
Variant Gogoat (Fire)
Pokemon From Generation 7
Cosmog
Cosmoem
Solgaleo
Lunala
Crabrawler
Crabominable
Dhelmise
Jangmo-o
Hakamo-o
Kommo-o
Komala
Mareanie
Toxapex
Passimian
Pyukumuku
Salandit
Tapu Bulu
Tapu Fini
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Turtonator
Type: Null
Silvally
Wishiwashi

Variant Mimikyu (Ghost/Grass / Fire / Water)
Variant Minior (Rock/Ice)
Variant Salazzle (Poison/Fighting)
Pokemon From Generation 8
Pangolin 1 (Grass/Steel)
Pangolin 2 (Grass/Steel)
Pangolin 3 (Grass/Steel)
Thylacine 1 (Fire)
Thylacine 2 (Fire/Ghost)
Thylacine 3 (Fire/Ghost)
Dolphin 1 (Water)
Dolphin 2 (Water)
Dolphin 3 (Water/Fairy)
Otter 1 (Normal/Water)
Otter 2 (Normal/Water)
Kookaburra 1 (Flying)
Kookaburra 2 (Flying)
Kookaburra 3 (Flying)
Platypus (Water/Poison)
Stick Insect 1 (Bug/Grass)
Stick Insect 2 (Bug/Grass)
Stick Insect 3 (Bug/Grass)
Pyukumuku 2 (Water)
Kangaroo 1 (Grass)
Kangaroo 2 (Grass/Fighting)
Dingo 1 (Fire/Dark)
Dingo 2 (Fire/Dark)
Drakeon (Dragon)
Basculin 2 (Water)
Hurricrane 1 (Water/Flying)
Hurricrane 2 (Water/Flying)
Hurricrane 3 (Water/Flying)
Relicanth 2 (Water/Rock)
Ghost Rock 1 (Ghost/Rock)
Ghost Rock 2 (Ghost/Rock)
Tiki 1 (Grass/Fire)
Tiki 2 (Grass/Fire)
Shuckle 2 (Bug)
Shuckle 3 (Bug/Dragon)
Panda Ant (Bug)
Durant 2 (Bug/Steel)
Dumbo Octopus 1 (Flying/Psychic)
Dumbo Octopus 2 (Flying/Psychic)
Flaringo 1 (Water/Fire)
Flaringo 2 (Water/Fire)
Lumineon 3 (Water)
Digeridoo (Rock/Grass)
Frilled Lizard 1 (Grass/Dragon)
Frilled Lizard 2 (Grass/Dragon)
Frilled Lizard 3 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 1 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 2 (Grass/Dragon)
Bearded Dragon 3 (Grass/Dragon)
Komala 2 (Normal)
Macaw 1 (Grass/Flying)
Macaw 2 (Grass/Flying)
Seviper 2 (Poison)
Gorilla 1 (Fighting)
Gorilla 2 (Fighting)
Chair 1 (Normal)
Chair 2 (Normal)
Chair 3 (Normal)
Dunsparce 2 (Normal/Dragon)
Virus (Electric/Psychic)
Panther 1 (Dark)
Panther 2 (Dark)
Panther 3 (Dark)
Lapras 2 (Water/Ice)
Dhelmise 2 (Ghost/Grass)
Dhelmise 3 (Ghost/Water)
Kraken 1 (Water/Dark)
Kraken 2 (Water/Dark)
Kraken 3 (Water/Dark)
Pegasear (Fire/Flying)
Unglomerate (Psychic/Fighting)
Devolving 1 (Dark)
Devolving 2 (Dark/Fairy)
Devolving 3 (Fairy)
Farfetch’d 2 (Normal/Fighting)
Cerberus 1 (Dark)
Cerberus 2 (Dark)
Cerberus 3 (Dark)
Boar 1 (Ground)
Boar 2 (Ground)
Boar 3 (Ground)
Milotic 3 (Water/Psychic)
Steel Dragon 1 (Dragon/Steel)
Steel Dragon 2 (Dragon/Steel)
Steel Dragon 3 (Dragon/Steel)
Death Worm (Ground)
Druddigon 2 (Dragon/Rock)
Druddigon 3 (Dragon/Rock)
Blobfish (Water)
Arctic Owl 1 (Ice/Fire)
Arctic Owl 2 (Ice/Fire)
Arctic Owl 3 (Ice/Fire)
Reefiathan (Water)
Aegislash 4 (Steel/Ghost)
Feraligatr 4 (Water/Ice)
Flygon 4 (Ground/Dragon)
Hydreigon 4 (Dark/Dragon)
Kommo-o 4 (Dragon/Fighting)
Krookodile 4 (Dark/Ground)
Meganium 4 (Grass/Fairy)
Porygon 4 (Normal/Psychic)
Reuniclus 4 (Psychic)
Staraptor 4 (Normal/Flying)
Togekiss 4 (Flying/Fairy)
Typhlosion 4 (Fire)
Tiger Snake (Dragon/Poison)
Constrictor (Dragon)
Rainbow Snake (Dragon/Fairy)
Varindomitor (Grass/Poison)
Fuegoleo (Fire/Rock)
Haast’s Eagle (Electric/Flying)
Megalodon (Water/Ground)
IRUV "Freelancer From The Future" Leaker (October 2016)
  • Pokemon Infrared and Ultraviolet are the titles of the Generation 8 games
  • It's a reboot similar to what Generation 5
  • The region is based on Ancient China
  • The starters are a Grass Lemur called Leefmur , Fire Snake called Coaboa, and a Water Bear called Ursea
  • The evil team is called Team Rift
  • Gyms are returning
  • There is no Anime
  • The box legends are a Steel/Ghost Cobra for Infrared and Water/Ghost Hornet for Ultraviolet
Anonymous Leaker (August 2017)
  • US/UM are being kept under wraps because their plot connects directly into these games
  • The games are called Pokemon Infra Red and Ultra Violet and are planned for release November 2018
  • This is a re-imagination of the first Generation 1 games and features a redesigned Red and a new blonde girl who retcons Leaf from canon
  • Your rival is a Gary/Blue clone who's gender matches yours
  • Kanto is now bigger and more expansive featuring areas from the Anime and all of the towns, cities, routes, and dungeons are redesigned
  • Brock and Misty are more like in the Anime and act as "friendly rivals" like X/Y and S/M/US/UM. They appear consistently throughout your journey and often partner in double and triple battles
  • Team rocket is much more of a threat, their goal now is to clone Mew who is now retconned into a Pokemon from Ultra Space (more like Cosmog than the other UBs) and create Mewtwo
  • Postgame features the Orange Islands and the 4 Alola Islands (Which are retconned to be part of the Orange Islands) however since this takes place long before Generation 7, it is all just small villages and island territories. There is no Aether or Island Challenge. This part of the Postgame also features 2 quests based on the Anime, and Ultra Space Portals to find the UBs
  • Postgame also lets you catch Ho-Oh in Kanto and there are new ways to obtain Mew, Mewtwo, Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, and Lugia
  • New Pokemon variant called Clone Pokemon and they are based on the Mewtwo clones in the Anime. These are obtainable from the Mew/Mewtwo side quests
  • Alolan Forms are now renamed Exotic Forms and there are 40+ Exotic forms. Some of these include the Pink Pokemon, Ice Type Snorlax, and Crystal Onix
Reginos Region Leak (August 2016)
This is seperated into 3 different parts, by 3 different leakers

Part 1

Region: Reginos
Island based on Great Britain

The region will be split into 4 "Shires" and follow the trial system like Alola and also have 4 traditional gyms. Leaders of each shire will be called 'Lords'. Expect a city based on London, castles, palaces, Stonehenge and Hadrians wall. Post game has an underwater tunnel that leads to its French counterpart...

Villain team is "Team Majestic". Their goal is to capture powerful Pokemon to use as weapons to take over the world. They will attempt to capture all 4 legendary Pokemon to summon the secret 5th legendary.

The legendary pokemon each live in a shire and are regarded as "symbols of the classic elements": Air, Earth, Fire, Water.

Scottish shire: legendary water type based on the Loch Ness Monster. Symbol of the classic water element.

N. Irish shire: legendary ground type giant (inspired by 'Giants causeway' myth). Symbol of the classic Earth element.

Welsh shire: legendary flying type based on a Wyvern. Symbol of the classic Air element.

English shire: legendary fire type based on Saint George's dragon. Symbol of the classic fire element.

5th legendary and box art for both games will a winged duel-type unicorn. One game has 'Attack form' (Ghost/Dark) and one game has 'Defense form' (Psychic/Fairy). One form makes it white while the other form makes it black. It is the symbol of the classic 'aether' element ("Void" in Japanese).

You will be able to crossbreed Mew and Mewtwo to hatch a Mewthree in the day care centre.

The exclusive feature for this game will be "Super stones". This is 1 stone that permanently evolves a pokemons type and gives it 4 new moves. Only a select handful of pokemon can "evolve type" and they will be known as "Super Pokemon".

Pikachu - Fairy (but it can not evolve into Raichu after this)
Lapras - dragon
Tauros - steel
Hitmonlee - dark
Muk - ghost
Kabutops - ground
Snorlax - fighting
Weavile - Psychic
Zangoose - ice
Flygon - bug
Ho-oh - flying
Lugia - water
Part 2
The "super stones" translation were misinterpreted. These stones temporarily change the typing of a handful of "super pokemon" in battle. When a stone is used, these special Pokemon temporarily have THREE typings in battle and three secret moves unlocked (which replace their normal 4 moves) - one move of each type. They also get surround by an aura that changes color depending on the type of the selected move.

Triple type combinations that will be available are:

Ground/Rock/Steel - Steelix
Grass/Poison/Ground - Venosaur
Electric/Fairy/Dark - Pikachu
Fire/Dragon/Flying - Charizard
Water/Ice/Steel - Blastoise
Ghost/Dark/Psychic - Gengar
Water/Ice/Dragon - Lapras
Water/Dragon/Dark - Gyrados
Fighting/Normal/Psychic - Lucario
Bug/Dragon/Flying - Flygon
Bug/Poison/Rock - Kabutops
Fighting/Ice/Normal - Zangoose
Psychic/Flying/Ghost - Ho-oh
Psychic/Flying/Water - Lugia
Psychic/Fairy/Normal - Mew
Psychic/Fairy/Dark - Mewtwo

Each game will have 8 "super pokemon" respectively
Part 3
I am the person who gave the original Gen 7 chinese leaks and new Gen 8 leaks. Gen 8 leaks were originally on tumblr and fans have been adding their own ideas which are not true. "Super pokemon", Mewthree and triple types are not real. The image attached is all the correct details for Gen 8. I've cropped the post circulating to the correct info. Although this is the information in bullet points.

Gen 7 will be shorter than previous games, and that's why you can expect a quick follow up of Gen 8. There are no Megas in gen 7. Mega evolutions have been saved for Gen 8 as the region will attach to Kalos (UK - France: France where mega's originate; go figure).

The best news I can give you is the remaining starter Pokemon will all get Mega Evolutions - except for Gen 7 - in the gen 8 games.

Greninja starts using his tongue as a sling shot with its hands - and slings water balls.

Feraligatr will gain dark type.
Meganium will gain fairy type.
Typlosion will gain ground type.
Empoleon replaces steel type with ice.
Serperior gains poison.

There will be no other megas. There will be 2 gen of starters for exclusive to each gen 8 game. 2 and 4 starters/5 and 6 starters respectively.
Plus And Minus (2014)
>GameFreak were one of the first development studios inside Nintendo to receive Alpha-Prototype hardware, now have been upgraded to the Beta-Prototype hardware above.

>Have a few areas marked out, TONS of concept art traveling between Pokemon Company and Nintendo Co Ltd.

>GameFreak plans to completely overhaul the basic systems of battle, simplifying the process.

>The development team is “going to put a lot of ideas they have wanted to do for years in this game”.

>Two versions already have code names, possibly final: Pokemon Plus and Pokemon Minus.

>Theme is “Old Tradition VS New Exploration”

>New region, no name yet, is based on South East Asia with one large peninsula and many smaller islands.

>Three new starters with no names: Water evolves into Water/Steel and is a squat, teardrop shaped humanoid that has a jar filled with on its head as it evolves it grows taller and the jar bigger until it needs another set of arms to hold it on it’s head. Fire evolves into Fire/Fairy and is a tiny cute goat with fire blowing out of its horns, it’s horns and look evolves more menacing until it has curly ram like horns and a motorcycle hot-rod-like look. Grass evolves into a Grass/Electric and starts with a leap for a face with a nubby root as a body and evolves until it grows into an electric producing palm tree with each flower petal having a different face.

>The main legendary for Pokemon Plus is a Shi Foo Lion-looking Psychic/Ground-type that has multiple faces, the Pokemon Minus legendary is a Ghost/Fairy type that has two dashes for eyes and is a hurricane-like appendages with many arms and hands.

>More traditional Pokemon-like gameplay will be on the Handheld controller while an all new gameplay aspect will be on the Terminal unit.

>The “Pokken Fighers” render that was teased was running on Alpha kits, Beta kits now have advance cell shading. Going for very detailed “living anime” look.

>The new “Team” villains are described as a bunch of “Sohei Zelots”-types who have discovered the player’s best friend as a reincarnation of a special type of person who only is alive every 100 years. They believe the old system where people were given a Pokemon egg and they stick to that Pokemon until they die and who’s function in society dictate what role that person is. They are against the “modern” trend of Pokemon Trainers and capturing multiple Pokemon and are making a holy pilgrimage to evoke the old Legendaries to turn everything back to normal. They keep the player away from their friend, saying the special one (who can do amazing things like mega evolve Pokemon without the use of a mega ring) only love is that of Pokemon and not people. It is planned to be reveal later that for the special one to fulfill their role in society they must be mortally sacrificed to awaken the legendaries.

>Routes connection the island together are water bridges but clumps of island are connected together by underwater tunnels.

>There is a “Stone Slowking” statue that is a parody of the Reclining Buddha at Wat Pho, Thailand.

>Many Pokemon from Hoenn and Sinnoh will make a return.

>Variety of Pokemon Gyms, one is a mail system that only uses flying types and focuses on sky battles. One only uses baby Pokemon, one is implied to be a real vampire and uses Ghost and Dark Pokemon. There is also a military like leader who uses Fire and Steel Pokemon.

>The island gameplay with Gym Leaders and the Elite Four island can be played entirely on the Handheld and can be blown up on the Terminal for home play.

>New Pokemon Type similar to Shinies, no details yet on how they work but I’ve been told they “change the game significantly”.

>The “Mainland” is an MMO-like environment that is exclusive to the Terminal and is shared by both versions.

>Players all over the world online can chat, trade, intermingle and experience new-updated story lines on the mainland.

>Pokemon Band is a new mechanic introduced to get people involved who do not battle, a co-operative experience where Pokemon dance and make music together to achieve the highest group score.

>Pokemon Bank are actual locations on the Mainland and Handheld areas where people can import past Pokemon, mainly from Pokemon X and Pokemon Y into the new game.”


Fake
OREOKROEREKOREKORKEO Leak (January 2018)
  • Games will likely be released late next year and minimal game play will be shown at the direct in about 2 weeks
  • It will be a "re-imagining" of Kanto and the playable characters will be Red and some Blonde/Colored Hair girl. The starters will be the same (+ pikcahu) and they will all get special Z-Moves
  • There is no evil team, instead there are two groups in the region with one trying to sustain culture and tradition with the other wanting to transform the region and this causes some conflict in the region
  • The story of RR continues
  • The game is said to be taking a more open approach, after beating the long tutorial, you can beat the gyms in the order you pick and the difficulty will change, however there are some areas where it is simply just too hard for low level trainers to battle in
  • There is talks of DLC but they are mostly referring to Mega Stones (cause you cant get Mega Evolution's from the start of the game) with one being a Mega Evolution of a Generation 4 Starter. It might also be the Battle Frontier since that is supposedly absent
  • The Battle system does in fact change. You move around in real time, selecting one of four moves with the left joycon. Movement varies based on the Pokemon's size, speed, and the terrain. Speed works differently as it is now no longer based on the stature of the Pokemon. PP is now a stat and is sort of like an energy meter for your Pokemon letting you use moves as long as you have enough PP with Mega Evolution and Z-Moves draining a lot of PP. Also moves will have Cool downs now.
AA Leaker (October 2016)
  • Titles are Pokemon Infrared and Ultraviolet
  • No new Mega Evolutions
  • Region forms are now redefined and Pokemon have variations in appearance and stats based on the environment, lore, and genetics. Most of these are in the concept stage and an example is a Poison/Other Type Snail that has its shell change based on its second type
  • The region is based on the US, California in particular. Notable locations include an Amusement Park, Redwood forest, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and San Francisco inspired city, a huge Railroad System, Drive in Theatre, Mining Dig site, Racetrack, Shopping Malls, and a Battle Festival
  • Starters are a Grass Ant, Fire Bear, and Water Bat
  • The gimmick is Temporary Battle Exclusive Fusions. Only the new Pokemon and some old ones can do this but there are restrictions, they have to be of the same seven letter Gene Code (Like Pokemon Blood Types) and have to be FE. Genes aren't random, they are assigned based on certain traits almost like Breeding Groups
  • Legendaries are based on Microscopic organisms with Electric/Fire for Infrared and Electric/Water for Ultraviolet and could fuse because of their special Gene Code
  • Marshadow is related to Magearna. It is like Magearna's opposite.
  • Around 80-120 new Pokemon
  • Breeding is more complex because the stat system is expanded on. There is more strategy and involvement to the point of, raising an egg and infant Pokemon is a game in itself
  • New stats include Intelligence, Happiness, Discipline and Health. You can "educate" Pokemon through "classes". Pokemon that are "Smarter" have higher Accuracy and a bigger move pool. Health is separate from HP so if your Pokemon faints a lot they "die" but can then be cloned. This is also how fossil Pokemon are made
  • Gyms are bigger and Feature specific modes focusing on specific stats
  • New Evolutions of older Pokemon include Starmie, Flareon, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Electrode, Lanturn, and Spiritomb
  • Battle system is revamped with Accuracy and Power no longer being move specific but based on how a Pokemon is raised. Pokemon also move more in battle like living creatures and interact with each other. Also the new stats have a part to play. Discipline for example could result in a Pokemon befriending an enemy Pokemon instead of attacking it
  • The player has much more interaction in the world and one plot point involves interacting with the "police" to fight an evil team
  • Graphics are similar to Pokken
  • To be announced probably Summer 2017
  • NPCs are overhauled featuring dialog trees, missions, and changes based on how you react
  • There is no 3rd version of Sun/Moon Planned
Generation 8 Starter Leaks
 
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Honestly, everything here already reeks of being fake. (Nothing here's directed at you, Raptor, just at the fake leakers)

  • Pokemon Rain And Shine, Based on New Zealand, Scheduled for release around September 2018 likely the 28th or 30th.
  • Right now the game is just concept art and a few demos to see how it runs on the Switch.
So the game is just concept art and testing how it runs on a new console, but they already have a release date scheduled?
The box legends are a Steel/Ghost Cobra for Infrared and Water/Ghost Hornet for Ultraviolet
That's not enough detail for a cover legendary's design. Legendaries always have a theme tying themselves to each other, not just "type+animal".

Plus, ultraviolet after Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? That'd be a bit of a confusing name choice, don't you think?
  • The games are called Pokemon Infra Red and Ultra Violet and are planned for release November 2018
  • This is a re-imagination of the first Generation 1 games
Right, nothing says remaking Red and Blue like making Red and Violet.
  • and features a redesigned Red and a new blonde girl who retcons Leaf from canon
  • Your rival is a Gary/Blue clone who's gender matches yours
So after meeting Red and Blue in SuMo, suddenly they're getting changed? And what's this about retconning Leaf? We never saw Leaf outside of FRLG.
Team rocket is much more of a threat, their goal now is to clone Mew who is now retconned into a Pokemon from Ultra Space (more like Cosmog than the other UBs) and create Mewtwo
And this just shows that the "leaker" doesn't know what they're talking about. Team Rocket is now trying to create Mewtwo, compared to previous gens when Mewtwo had already been created, and somehow that makes them more of a threat?

Besides, Mew literally got a special Z-Crystal in SuMo. There was ample time to retcon it then.
Postgame features the Orange Islands and the 4 Alola Islands (Which are retconned to be part of the Orange Islands)
This doesn't make sense in-universe or out. In SuMo, they specifically say Kanto is a good distance away from Alola, and in real life, Kanto (an actual region in Japan) is pretty far away from Hawaii. (Also, what's up with all the retconning?)


And on top of all of this-notice how much the Anonymous August leaker's info is so dedicated to the anime. (All anime locations are canon, characters act more like they do in the anime, alternate forms in the anime exist, and so on) That's not something that's ever really been the case, not even with Pokemon Yellow.

You will be able to crossbreed Mew and Mewtwo to hatch a Mewthree in the day care centre.
Reginos Region leak was already sounding fake at the start-Britain doesn't have a strong connection to the classical elements-but this is just flat-out ridiculous.
Weavile - Physchic
I never trust leakers who can't spell Psychic.
Ho-oh - flying
If only Ho-Oh was already Flying-type....Oh, wait.
I am the person who gave the original Gen 7 chinese leaks and new Gen 8 leaks. Gen 8 leaks were originally on tumblr and fans have been adding their own ideas which are not true. "Super pokemon", Mewthree and triple types are not real.
So leaker denies the three points most people pointed out were not likely to be real, but promises everything else they say is true. Not exactly keeping their composure.
Gen 7 will be shorter than previous games, and that's why you can expect a quick follow up of Gen 8.
Do they mean gameplay-wise, or as in time between launches? Because there were only three years between XY's release and SuMo's announcement, and we've still got USUM to wait for. I don't think "a quick follow up" is two years after the game's release instead of three.
Empoleon replaces steel type with ice.
So Empoleon, the only Water/Steel type in the game, is going to join four other lines of Pokemon as Water/Ice? And end up with one more weakness than it started with? What a brilliant idea!
There will be no other megas
With Mega Evolutions, ORAS Megas, and Z-Moves, there were always non-starters being included. Why would they suddenly change that?
 
Yeah, these are probably all bullshit. There's something about every single one of them that just looks off or something that Game Freak wouldn't do.
 
Honestly, everything here already reeks of being fake. (Nothing here's directed at you, Raptor, just at the fake leakers)


So the game is just concept art and testing how it runs on a new console, but they already have a release date scheduled?

That's not enough detail for a cover legendary's design. Legendaries always have a theme tying themselves to each other, not just "type+animal".

Plus, ultraviolet after Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? That'd be a bit of a confusing name choice, don't you think?

Right, nothing says remaking Red and Blue like making Red and Violet.

So after meeting Red and Blue in SuMo, suddenly they're getting changed? And what's this about retconning Leaf? We never saw Leaf outside of FRLG.

And this just shows that the "leaker" doesn't know what they're talking about. Team Rocket is now trying to create Mewtwo, compared to previous gens when Mewtwo had already been created, and somehow that makes them more of a threat?

Besides, Mew literally got a special Z-Crystal in SuMo. There was ample time to retcon it then.

This doesn't make sense in-universe or out. In SuMo, they specifically say Kanto is a good distance away from Alola, and in real life, Kanto (an actual region in Japan) is pretty far away from Hawaii. (Also, what's up with all the retconning?)


And on top of all of this-notice how much the Anonymous August leaker's info is so dedicated to the anime. (All anime locations are canon, characters act more like they do in the anime, alternate forms in the anime exist, and so on) That's not something that's ever really been the case, not even with Pokemon Yellow.


Reginos Region leak was already sounding fake at the start-Britain doesn't have a strong connection to the classical elements-but this is just flat-out ridiculous.

I never trust leakers who can't spell Psychic.

If only Ho-Oh was already Flying-type....Oh, wait.

So leaker denies the three points most people pointed out were not likely to be real, but promises everything else they say is true. Not exactly keeping their composure.

Do they mean gameplay-wise, or as in time between launches? Because there were only three years between XY's release and SuMo's announcement, and we've still got USUM to wait for. I don't think "a quick follow up" is two years after the game's release instead of three.

So Empoleon, the only Water/Steel type in the game, is going to join four other lines of Pokemon as Water/Ice? And end up with one more weakness than it started with? What a brilliant idea!

With Mega Evolutions, ORAS Megas, and Z-Moves, there were always non-starters being included. Why would they suddenly change that?
It may have been me retyping up the leak where there is that spelling error. I might fix it later. Also something is really iffy about all these leaks using "Infrared and Ultraviolet" as titles. So we can pretty much be sure that any leak with these in the titles are probably fake. TBH the first leak you point out, I see as being the most likely to be real in comparison to the others, because some of these things seem like the choices Gamefreak would make. Having a snake for a Legendary and a starter which seems repetitive (like Solgaleo and Incineroar), being somewhere random and unexpected like New Zealand, and the small amount of Pokemon in a small region seems like something Gamefreak would do for the beginning of the "Switch generation". This is just imo. I don't get the type/animal argument for the Legendaries though because the same could be said for Solgaleo and Lunala?
There's something about every single one of them that just looks off or something that Game Freak wouldn't do.
Idk. I'd think "something off" would be something Gamefreak would do especially with all the random things they have been doing
>Generation 8
>Leaks
>Rumours

Why even entertain the idea that any of this info is worth considering?
Because, leaks are already appearing and last year, some of the biggest leaks happened pretty early so it is possible (although very unlikely) that a leak could become true
 
It may have been me retyping up the leak where there is that spelling error. I might fix it later.
Oh, my bad, didn't know you were typing it up!

I don't get the type/animal argument for the Legendaries though because the same could be said for Solgaleo and Lunala?
Solgaleo isn't just "Steel/Psychic lion", and Lunala isn't just "Ghost/Psychic bat". They're based on the sun and moon, and have a lot of other possible inspirations.
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Not to say that they would have to be that elaborate-even the starter leaks of SuMo didn't go into all the possible inspirations-but legendaries have always had a basis on something beyond just "animal+type", and as the generations have continued on, they've been tied in more heavily. (Take, for example, how Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were originally just a trio representing primary colors, compared to Darkrai and Cresselia, with bodies based on phases of the moon.) Legendary Pokemon are strongly thought out-Masuda said that they try to create a name that can be universal across different translations.

So with all that in mind, it's very suspicious that the leak somehow starts with the end result without giving even a bit how we got to these Pokemon.
Because, leaks are already appearing
Unconfirmed leaks, and if a leak isn't real, it can appear whenever someone wants.
 
Imma skip the infraRed and whatever deal because that seems too far off. I'll only do that first one. Now...

- Rain and Sheine? That sounds more like RSE pre stage names. I'd even take Plus and Minus over it...moving on....

- A new main series game should not be released on the switch. Sure you can carry it around, but for the most part it is still considered a home console, and main series games can only be on handhleds.

- Also, a new gen shouldn't happen next year. I already hated how gen5 lasted 2 years, I don't want gen7 to also be as short. If anything, gen4 remakes should happen in 2018.

- Sadly the starters seem to be the most believable thing here. Let's break it down:
1. The Grass starter seems...legit. Depending on how they execute it maybe it will go fine.
2. For some reason I feel the Fire starter is really unlikely, but at least it matches the Fire starter's theme.
3. Water starter feels more believable than the above but don't thinkit will happen.

- If anything, gen8 should NOT have a 2-stage regional bird. We still have so many other things to do with 3-stage birds. Like, a special attacking bird isn't a thing yet. And a Dark/Flying one should happen as well.

- That psuedo legend is...wow. Can that even count as a dragon? If that was real I'd imagine it to be the derpiest psuedo legend.

- Also, I'd like to point out how the said psuedo legend has a scale-based move. Which the previous one totally didn't hav- oh wait it did. So yeah.

Yeah....hopefully this will stay as a 'fanfiction' like a previous user said.
 
- A new main series game should not be released on the switch. Sure you can carry it around, but for the most part it is still considered a home console, and main series games can only be on handhleds.
This was said by The Pokemon Company's President and CEO during E3:
Tsunekazu Ishihara said:
Game Freak has begun developing a Core RPG Pokemon title on Nintendo Switch
This game is for Switch, it is a core RPG title aka a main series game, it is being made by Game Freak who has only made the main series games while other people made the spin-offs, there is no way that the main series game is not being made for Switch, which while it is a home console is a handheld as well, possibly the only handheld after the 3DS.
 
Mandibuzz and Honchkrow cry in a corner... they're not 3 stage, but regional birds in their own right.

what about mandibuzz flying/ground? or Honchkrow flying/ghost?
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imagine a Abomasnow with the Grassy Surge ability? then mega with Snow warning?
 
Like, a special attacking bird isn't a thing yet.
Did you forget Noctowl? It's the second regional bird ever and it's main attacking stat is Sp. Atk.
Also, Swellow's recent boost makes him a very potent special sweeper with access to Boomburst, so there you go, two Special Attacking regional birds!
 
Mandibuzz and Honchkrow cry in a corner... they're not 3 stage, but regional birds in their own right.
Oh lol I meant as a starting bird.

Did you forget Noctowl? It's the second regional bird ever and it's main attacking stat is Sp. Atk.
Ah yes I felt I was forgetting someone when I made that statement. But a special attacking 3-stage bird would be nice, especially if HMs aren't going to be a thing anymore so we don't have to teach it Fly.
 
I'd be honest. Even when fake, I do like the supposed idea behind Shine's legendary. Reminds me of the Rainbow Serpent of Australian mythology.
 
no Crimson clown dragon/psyhic? with Unluck ability that would make oponents moves effects activate on the oponents tchem self?
no walking skeleton dargon/ghost immune to special attacks?
 
"Postgame features the Orange Islands and the 4 Alola Islands (Which are retconned to be part of the Orange Islands) however since this takes place long before Generation 7, it is all just small villages and island territories. There is no Aether or Island Challenge. This part of the Postgame also features 2 quests based on the Anime, and Ultra Space Portals to find the UBs"

This is so obviously wrong it's funny. Whoever made this up had no idea what they were doing.

As for the Box legends, they probably would be more connected in some way.

All the extra stat stuff and breeding changes (discipline and genetics? Really?) is probably fake as well. No reason what so ever for game freak to get so much more confusingly in-depth with Pokemon. Lord knows competive is hard enough.
 
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