QBERTP
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Hi guys!
During this season of gen 8 leaks, I thought I could stay really on top of what's current posting this speculation about an alleged gen 7 leak aka the RootHoot mystery ...
(which is totally against the tide, and for many of you - I understand - it's not even a mystery)
Anyways, if you like, tell me what you think about it, and if you happen to have more info, please share
I’ve been researching beta Pokémon and Pokémon-related trademarks for a couple of different reasons lately and a very old Sun & Moon “leak” struck me as it crossed both paths.
Of course, I’m talking about the RootHoot leak posted on 4chan and 2ch (unfortunately, the page is now unretrievable) on March 6th, 2016
The 4chan thread originally featured the two pics above plus a line-art of the owlet accompanied by the caption “おはようございます“ (Good Morning) and a couple of coloured details of the “fire starter” along with the line “準備はいい” (Are you ready?), I’m posting another screenshot of the original page below, as I luckily found a user who suggested this same theory back then and took some snaps while the thread was still on.
The “leak” was allegedly posted by a Japanese user and reveals a grass Owlet, (initially nicknamed RootHoot by the users!) a water Dolphin/Seal creature and a rocky fire creature with feline ears serving Ultra Beast vibes.
The “leak” was quickly dismissed as fake… just like many other seal/cat/owlet fake trios that kept popping up back in those days… but the weird thing is … this one in particular, was posted ONE MONTH before the starters’ names were posted on trademark_bot essentially revealing to the general public which real-life animals they were based off (that’s why many subsequent fake leaks got the three creatures right)
The first starter’s trademark (Nyabby/Litten) was posted on March 27th 2016, while the other two (Rowlet and Popplio) on April 18th 2016! The starters were then officially revealed on May 10th 2016.
So how could the leaker have possibly predicted what creatures they were going to be based off , before even knowing their names? Furthermore “RootHoot” has the exact same palette as Rowlet, and I have the feeling no fake leaker back in early 2016 would’ve imagined Game Freak going for the Ultra Beast look.
In conclusion, if this “leak” is fake, the artist got extremely lucky, as he correctly guessed the real-life inspiration of the starters, their general theme and Rowlet’s palette 2 months before the official reveal and 1 month before the trademarks were discovered.
A quick breakdown:
PROs
1. The art, though not Sugimori-ish in style, is clearly done by a professional artist and it has also been posted on 2ch, hinting at a japanese leaker.
2. the general concept is the same: grass owl, fire feline, water sea-lion. You might say the fire one is not really a cat, and that's a valid point, however - in hindsight - the ears and eyes convey a feline ultrabeast look in my opinion. The water one might look more like a dolphin, but the shape of its eyes and the general posture is quite reminiscent of Popplio.
3. The grass starter’s palette is the same
4. the pics were “leaked” before the (unofficial) name reveal, when nobody had a hint about the starters' look
5. In a way, the fire starter “predicts” the Ultra Beast look, or at the very least shows Game Freak’s intention to go for Pokémon with unusual designs in gen 7.
CONs
1. Anyone could post on 2ch through a VPN, furthermore the original thread was deleted and the japanese captions are very basic. The OP could be a fake leaker pretending to be japanese to add credibility to its claims.
2. The fire and water starter don't really scream "cat" and "sea-lion", the water one looking more like a dolphin.
3. The drawing style is weird, and not Pokémon-ish enough.
So
+ To your knowledge, was the community already speculating about a grass owlet starter in early 2016? (In the form of riddles, leaks, patterns... or something)
+ Is it possible the artist got so lucky, he correctly guessed the real-life inspiration of the grass starter, its pallette and the starters' general theme, one month before the trademarks were discovered?
+ Could the artist be a legit leaker who posted the actual concept art for the alolan starters?
+ Who were the Pokémon designers for Sun and Moon? Do they have online portfolios? We could try and match their style to the "leaker" style.
+ IF that’s the real beta-Litten, was he supposed to be an Ultra Beast?
+ Could this idea of an Ultra Beast starter have been saved for gen 8? Would you like to get an Ultra Beast starter?
Food for thought
So these are the bare facts, for more speculation, pics, and the various links to the original sources you can visit
https://qbertp.tumblr.com/post/173829871651/the-roothoot-mystery
I'd love to hear your opinion
During this season of gen 8 leaks, I thought I could stay really on top of what's current posting this speculation about an alleged gen 7 leak aka the RootHoot mystery ...
(which is totally against the tide, and for many of you - I understand - it's not even a mystery)
Anyways, if you like, tell me what you think about it, and if you happen to have more info, please share
I’ve been researching beta Pokémon and Pokémon-related trademarks for a couple of different reasons lately and a very old Sun & Moon “leak” struck me as it crossed both paths.
Of course, I’m talking about the RootHoot leak posted on 4chan and 2ch (unfortunately, the page is now unretrievable) on March 6th, 2016
The 4chan thread originally featured the two pics above plus a line-art of the owlet accompanied by the caption “おはようございます“ (Good Morning) and a couple of coloured details of the “fire starter” along with the line “準備はいい” (Are you ready?), I’m posting another screenshot of the original page below, as I luckily found a user who suggested this same theory back then and took some snaps while the thread was still on.
The “leak” was allegedly posted by a Japanese user and reveals a grass Owlet, (initially nicknamed RootHoot by the users!) a water Dolphin/Seal creature and a rocky fire creature with feline ears serving Ultra Beast vibes.
The “leak” was quickly dismissed as fake… just like many other seal/cat/owlet fake trios that kept popping up back in those days… but the weird thing is … this one in particular, was posted ONE MONTH before the starters’ names were posted on trademark_bot essentially revealing to the general public which real-life animals they were based off (that’s why many subsequent fake leaks got the three creatures right)
The first starter’s trademark (Nyabby/Litten) was posted on March 27th 2016, while the other two (Rowlet and Popplio) on April 18th 2016! The starters were then officially revealed on May 10th 2016.
So how could the leaker have possibly predicted what creatures they were going to be based off , before even knowing their names? Furthermore “RootHoot” has the exact same palette as Rowlet, and I have the feeling no fake leaker back in early 2016 would’ve imagined Game Freak going for the Ultra Beast look.
In conclusion, if this “leak” is fake, the artist got extremely lucky, as he correctly guessed the real-life inspiration of the starters, their general theme and Rowlet’s palette 2 months before the official reveal and 1 month before the trademarks were discovered.
A quick breakdown:
PROs
1. The art, though not Sugimori-ish in style, is clearly done by a professional artist and it has also been posted on 2ch, hinting at a japanese leaker.
2. the general concept is the same: grass owl, fire feline, water sea-lion. You might say the fire one is not really a cat, and that's a valid point, however - in hindsight - the ears and eyes convey a feline ultrabeast look in my opinion. The water one might look more like a dolphin, but the shape of its eyes and the general posture is quite reminiscent of Popplio.
3. The grass starter’s palette is the same
4. the pics were “leaked” before the (unofficial) name reveal, when nobody had a hint about the starters' look
5. In a way, the fire starter “predicts” the Ultra Beast look, or at the very least shows Game Freak’s intention to go for Pokémon with unusual designs in gen 7.
CONs
1. Anyone could post on 2ch through a VPN, furthermore the original thread was deleted and the japanese captions are very basic. The OP could be a fake leaker pretending to be japanese to add credibility to its claims.
2. The fire and water starter don't really scream "cat" and "sea-lion", the water one looking more like a dolphin.
3. The drawing style is weird, and not Pokémon-ish enough.
So
+ To your knowledge, was the community already speculating about a grass owlet starter in early 2016? (In the form of riddles, leaks, patterns... or something)
+ Is it possible the artist got so lucky, he correctly guessed the real-life inspiration of the grass starter, its pallette and the starters' general theme, one month before the trademarks were discovered?
+ Could the artist be a legit leaker who posted the actual concept art for the alolan starters?
+ Who were the Pokémon designers for Sun and Moon? Do they have online portfolios? We could try and match their style to the "leaker" style.
+ IF that’s the real beta-Litten, was he supposed to be an Ultra Beast?
+ Could this idea of an Ultra Beast starter have been saved for gen 8? Would you like to get an Ultra Beast starter?
Food for thought
So these are the bare facts, for more speculation, pics, and the various links to the original sources you can visit
https://qbertp.tumblr.com/post/173829871651/the-roothoot-mystery
I'd love to hear your opinion
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