Spoilers LGPE's New Pokémon Discussion Thread

[Tuoko]

Zeraora was discovered in the USUM datamine, so yeah. It was leaked.

It was, but that's not the point. It was still officially revealed before LGPE was announced, so it can't be the new Pokemon for these games. Not to mention that Pokemon Quest has slots for 808 Pokemon instead of 807.

 

[SeanWheeler]

I don't think Let's Go would introduce any new Pokémon. Was there any confirmation that it would have new Pokémon? I'm pretty sure it's focusing on Kanto's 151 Pokémon.

 

[RileyXY1]

I don't think Let's Go would introduce any new Pokémon. Was there any confirmation that it would have new Pokémon? I'm pretty sure it's focusing on Kanto's 151 Pokémon.

It was confirmed right when the game was announced that there will be a brand new Pokemon.

 

[SeanWheeler]

It'll probably be a Gen VIII Pokémon and it's an uncatchable cameo.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

I seriously doubt it. Why create a new design, announce a Pokemon's presence, and go to the trouble of including it in a game just for a one-off appearance? You'd piss off the fans you teased it to and barely get any mileage out of the design. Keeping it in the next game and not having a cameo at all would have less work for LGPE and a better reception.

 

[RileyXY1]

Merchandise listings have confirmed that the new Pokemon is indeed the final Mythical of Gen VII. I believe that it will show up in next year's movie alongside a Gen VIII Mythical.

 

[Silktree]

The merchandise listings are way too vague to confirm that it's a mythical. And I'd find it weird if they revealed a mythical so far ahead of its movie, even though they did do that with Victini and Genesect (they had to distribute them twice because of that).

 

[RileyXY1]

The merchandise listings are way too vague to confirm that it's a mythical. And I'd find it weird if they revealed a mythical so far ahead of its movie, even though they did do that with Victini and Genesect (they had to distribute them twice because of that).

It most likely is a Mythical, considering its National Dex Number (808). It wouldn't make sense to put a normal Pokemon there.

 

[Silktree]

Quoting myself from the Generation 8 thread (this is why LGPE discussion should be banned there):

That's like saying that the USUM-exclusive UBs had to be mythicals. They weren't.

It was described as a Special Pokemon. That term has been reserved for Mewtwo-tier legendaries so far.

 

[Ereshkigal]

If the merchandise listings are correct, my bet is on Zeraora.

If it's not, my bet is on an Eevee pre-evolution.

 

[BigBadButterfree]

If the merchandise listings are correct, my bet is on Zeraora.

If it's not, my bet is on an Eevee pre-evolution.

That would be adorable.

I'm surprised I haven't seen that suggestion before... It could make sense, given that Pikachu has one. And since you get your starter as a Pikachu and Eevee, the fact that neither will evolve is irrelevant to its existence (unlike a new eeveelution or gorochu, which would be dumb cuz they don't evolve). I'm... On board with babeevee.

 

[DanyyelTR]

If it's an eeveelution I'm guessing flying type
My other two picks are Gorochu and next gen Pokémon

 

[Silktree]

The Eevee baby is being kept for the Johto sequels. They aren't going to favor Eevee when Pichu isn't even in LGPE's data.

 

[Kallyle]

Say, I just had a crazy idea of something regarding the potential new Pokémon. I wouldn’t count on my idea coming true, but I figured there’s no harm in sharing.

You know how there’s been speculation about the new critter being related to either Pikachu or Eevee, with a few suggesting some sort of hybrid relating to/connecting both of them? Well, I’m about to throw my own hat into the ring with a twist on these things:

What if the new Pokémon is something unrelated to Pikachu and Eevee evolution-wise, but still keeps the spirit of what made each of them popular? In layman’s term, I’m suggesting that we could be getting a Pikaclone that shares Eevee’s gimmick of having various evolutions using all of the evolutionary stones presumably available in LGPE.

Before I explain further, let me get three things out of the way:

1. Regarding the argument of “it’s going to be a Mythical so it can’t evolve,” keep in mind that we now have evolving legendary Pokémon in the form of the Cosmog family (and arguably Type: Null into Silvally).
2. I’m including the Ice Stone in my example due to the confirmation of Alolan Forms being in LGPE. They kind of have to be in order to evolve both Alolan Sandshrew into Alolan Sandslash and Alolan Vulpix into Alolan Ninetales. Granted, they could potentially leave out the Ice Stone for the sake of keeping things closer to Yellow and/or keep the evolved form exclusive to Pokémon GO to encourage using GO Park. However I don’t think Game Freak would/should risk that given the amount of backlash they’ve been getting about not allowing cross-generation evolution (doing this to Raichu, Exeggutor, and Marowak is far more understandable since their evolution gimmick isn’t tied to an item).
3. For those of you who are wondering about there only being a listing for 808 Pokémon in Pokémon Quest, are we sure that isn’t just a placeholder for Hoopa Unbound (as it has been secretly used an extra slot to accommodate having more than one species listing in the Pokédex)? For all we know this new Pokémon might not have been originally planned for Quest. Also, there’s a possibility that Game Freak could update the amount of Pokémon available in the future, patching in new slots depending on when Game Freak decides to add more Pokémon to the National Pokédex.

For the sake of identification and simplicity, the stages of this hypothetical evolutionary line will be called Eeveechu for the base stage and Eonchu for the subsequent branched evolutions (which could go the way of Lycanroc or be counted as multiple different species depending on what Game Freak feels like doing.

Here’s how this concept would work: we’d start with Eeveechu having a Normal/Electric dual typing. Depending on the evolutionary stone used on it, it will evolve into one of several Eonchu.
Eeveechu + Moon Stone ⇨ Fairy/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Fire Stone ⇨ Fire/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Thunder Stone ⇨ pure Electric-type Eonchu
Eeveechu + Water Stone ⇨ Water/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Ice Stone ⇨ Ice/Electric Eonchu

There may or not be more Eonchu species/forms for the other evolutionary stone, but they obviously wouldn’t be present in LGPE since none of the original 151 use those stones to evolve. I’m also not sure what abilities they’d give Eeveechu or the different Eonchu species/forms but that doesn’t matter right now since LGPE lack abilities to begin with.

So, what do you guys think?

 

[Ambrose7]

Say, I just had a crazy idea of something regarding the potential new Pokémon. I wouldn’t count on my idea coming true, but I figured there’s no harm in sharing.

You know how there’s been speculation about the new critter being related to either Pikachu or Eevee, with a few suggesting some sort of hybrid relating to/connecting both of them? Well, I’m about to throw my own hat into the ring with a twist on these things:

What if the new Pokémon is something unrelated to Pikachu and Eevee evolution-wise, but still keeps the spirit of what made each of them popular? In layman’s term, I’m suggesting that we could be getting a Pikaclone that shares Eevee’s gimmick of having various evolutions using all of the evolutionary stones presumably available in LGPE.

Before I explain further, let me get three things out of the way:

1. Regarding the argument of “it’s going to be a Mythical so it can’t evolve,” keep in mind that we now have evolving legendary Pokémon in the form of the Cosmog family (and arguably Type: Null into Silvally).
2. I’m including the Ice Stone in my example due to the confirmation of Alolan Forms being in LGPE. They kind of have to be in order to evolve both Alolan Sandshrew into Alolan Sandslash and Alolan Vulpix into Alolan Ninetales. Granted, they could potentially leave out the Ice Stone for the sake of keeping things closer to Yellow and/or keep the evolved form exclusive to Pokémon GO to encourage using GO Park. However I don’t think Game Freak would/should risk that given the amount of backlash they’ve been getting about not allowing cross-generation evolution (doing this to Raichu, Exeggutor, and Marowak is far more understandable since their evolution gimmick isn’t tied to an item).
3. For those of you who are wondering about there only being a listing for 808 Pokémon in Pokémon Quest, are we sure that isn’t just a placeholder for Hoopa Unbound (as it has been secretly used an extra slot to accommodate having more than one species listing in the Pokédex)? For all we know this new Pokémon might not have been originally planned for Quest. Also, there’s a possibility that Game Freak could update the amount of Pokémon available in the future, patching in new slots depending on when Game Freak decides to add more Pokémon to the National Pokédex.

For the sake of identification and simplicity, the stages of this hypothetical evolutionary line will be called Eeveechu for the base stage and Eonchu for the subsequent branched evolutions (which could go the way of Lycanroc or be counted as multiple different species depending on what Game Freak feels like doing.

Here’s how this concept would work: we’d start with Eeveechu having a Normal/Electric dual typing. Depending on the evolutionary stone used on it, it will evolve into one of several Eonchu.
Eeveechu + Moon Stone ⇨ Fairy/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Fire Stone ⇨ Fire/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Thunder Stone ⇨ pure Electric-type Eonchu
Eeveechu + Water Stone ⇨ Water/Electric Eonchu
Eeveechu + Ice Stone ⇨ Ice/Electric Eonchu

There may or not be more Eonchu species/forms for the other evolutionary stone, but they obviously wouldn’t be present in LGPE since none of the original 151 use those stones to evolve. I’m also not sure what abilities they’d give Eeveechu or the different Eonchu species/forms but that doesn’t matter right now since LGPE lack abilities to begin with.

So, what do you guys think?

I like the idea and I like branched evolutions in general but isn't the placeholder for a single pokemon? If we get something like this, I think its gimmick will be forms not permanent evolutions.

 

[Kallyle]

I like the idea and I like branched evolutions in general but isn't the placeholder for a single pokemon? If we get something like this, I think its gimmick will be forms not permanent evolutions.

I addressed the placeholder in the post proper, basically saying that it could just be for Hoopa Unbound and not the new LGPE Pokémon. That being said, having a single Pokémon that evolves into other forms of itself would set set it apart from both Eevee and other Mythical Pokémon. Imagine the ramifications this would have in Gen 8 with Eviolite...

 

[Silktree]

I don't think that Game Freak have any interest to overshadow Pikachu and Eevee in their own games.

 

[Ereshkigal]

I don't think that Game Freak have any interest to overshadow Pikachu and Eevee in their own games.

Well, even if they stick with just the original 151, it's going to be kinda hard not to overshadow Eevee in some fashion.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

Just a minor nitpick: Not meaning to be rude but I don’t think any single theory should be threadmarked. All theories should be given an equal chance to be discussed upon.

Either threadmark all the theories or none at all.

 

[Kallyle]

I don't think that Game Freak have any interest to overshadow Pikachu and Eevee in their own games.

Are you talking about my theory in particular, or there being a new Mythical in general? It's already confirmed to be a new Pokémon and we know that it'll be usable. In addition, the fact that there's even a new Pokémon to begin with will likely overshadow both Pikachu and Eevee to a certain degree regardless. Therefore, Game Freak might as well make it stand out a bit more in comparison to Zeraora, which is already a bland filler Mythical to begin with. Why should this new Pokémon not be treated like a big deal and be a bland filler 'mon when then mascots are literally a big deal from the beginning of the game?

Just a minor nitpick: Not meaning to be rude but I don’t think any single theory should be threadmarked. All theories should be given an equal chance to be discussed upon.

Either threadmark all the theories or none at all.

Thank you for pointing that out! I'll get to thread-marking the most notable theories in a moment.

EDIT: I threadmarked the most important theories as I said I would. Thank you for the suggestion!