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Host Thoughts of this Game:
First off, I want to congratulate everyone on this game. I think everyone has done a reasonable job with this game and honestly, I did not expect this game to go the way it did at all. This game has featured many twists and turns that I did not expect. Extra props to mafia for using their mafia powers well and Jinjo for playing her role well. Want to stand out Mido for good usage of the OC and ExLight for faking the OC chat with Todd.
Second, for those who subbed in, thank you so much! Honestly, I did not expect that I had to sub in this many people in this game but it did. Honestly, I felt I should have handled the subbing situation better than I did. I don't like subbing people out as I assume they are busy. In the future, I should have a solid subbing policy that is set in stone in the rules.
Third, I want to thank my MoD @Crystal Onix for his advice and input on what to do. He also pointed out issues with the game that I have not considered and lead me to a thought process that was quite reasonable for the game.
Set Up Thoughts
So originally, the set up of the game was to be a lot larger. The roles that were cut out were the following:
Misteaks Eye Maid
Alright, let's just go on to the mistakes I made since I am right 90 percent of the time. Here are the other 12 percent I made;:
The rules originally said the following:
As I made corrections twice in the game, the rule was intended to apply to role PMs. I did not anyone to quote large portions of the role PM they got from me. This caused a lot of confusion with regard to OC. After a couple of corrections, people did seem to get that memo.
As for the LYLO and MYLO confusion, this is mainly my fault. Basically, since Jinjo would have counted for parity purposes, I mistakenly called it a LYLO. However, Jinjo had the abilitu to kill one of her teammates so that had to go through. Hence it should have been a MYLO.
Overall, I try my best to try to keep the game line with normal TWR standards but I also like to deviate from it to experiment and to do some things expected. But the number one goal for me is to make games enjoyable. Hopefully I did that.
I want to reiterate that I had a great time with this game and the players did a good job playing this game. The game went in directions that I never expected or could even imagine. And I also learned a fair bit of hosting my own game. I am satisified with the hosting of the game and that I did break the mold of a typical TWR game.
I think that's all I have for host thoughts. Anyways, here's the usual postgame survey that you get for every mafia game.
Did you enjoy the game? What are the aspects of the game you enjoyed or not enjoyed?
If you were the host of this game, what would you change about this game?
Would you like to see another Piko hosted game? Should Piko make it more bastard? Less? About the same?
First off, I want to congratulate everyone on this game. I think everyone has done a reasonable job with this game and honestly, I did not expect this game to go the way it did at all. This game has featured many twists and turns that I did not expect. Extra props to mafia for using their mafia powers well and Jinjo for playing her role well. Want to stand out Mido for good usage of the OC and ExLight for faking the OC chat with Todd.
Second, for those who subbed in, thank you so much! Honestly, I did not expect that I had to sub in this many people in this game but it did. Honestly, I felt I should have handled the subbing situation better than I did. I don't like subbing people out as I assume they are busy. In the future, I should have a solid subbing policy that is set in stone in the rules.
Third, I want to thank my MoD @Crystal Onix for his advice and input on what to do. He also pointed out issues with the game that I have not considered and lead me to a thought process that was quite reasonable for the game.
Set Up Thoughts
So originally, the set up of the game was to be a lot larger. The roles that were cut out were the following:
- An extra ITP Hunter so the Hunter faction would be the fourth faction in this game that shares the same strongman faction kill. They would share the bulletproof with upon the use of the bulletproof, their role PM would be revealed without the names that would warn about the fourth faction.
- A town-aligned tracker. In hindsight, that probably should have been a role in this game.
- Another mafia player - 2x role stealer. Basically this mafia member would target one player and on the following night, the target would not be able to use their role for the next night. In addition, that mafia player would be able to use that role as if it was their own. If the target had a limited shot role, mafia would steal that shot. If the target has more than one role, they would get a random role from that player and that player can't choose that role for the following night.
- A town spy in this game, where they would have gotten all the OC except for the Masons, Hunter and Mafia factions for the day and night phases. They would not know who were involved in OCs but would otherwise get the raw text of the OCs.
- The ITP Mafia Usurper role was obviously pretty bastard of me. Honestly, I had quite debates whether or not to include that role or not. In the end, I decided to keep it under the condition that I gave the actual Mafia team pretty strong roles.
- That being said, I actually did not give the roles for mafia chat. Mafia had to claim their roles in the thread and if they were right, I would perform the actions.
- I actually did consider this role unlimited mafia kill overwriting powers after Night 6. At the time, I thought this would make the role very OP. In hindsight, it wouldn't have made this role much more powerful. The intention was to whoever had this role to perhaps do some bussing with mafia since mafia had powerful roles.
- The Hunter Faction is actually more powerful version of Serial Killers. Sadly, this role didn't live up to its potential as it was lynched on Day 1. Ah well, that's the nature of the game.
- Normally, the miller role would just be as it is. From experience, that role is no fun to play so I decided to add 1x investigation roles. I'm actually quite happy with that.
- The unlimited shot vig role was actually meant to counter the ITPs in this game.
- I think one of the other bastard roles I have was the OC disabler and the Result scrambler role. Okay, I'll admit, the Result Scrambler was meant for my own amusement to read in OC. As for the OC disabler, in hindsight, given how many players in this game, it was too powerful. It probably should have lasted for two phases instead of four.
Misteaks Eye Maid
Alright, let's just go on to the mistakes I made since I am right 90 percent of the time. Here are the other 12 percent I made;:
The rules originally said the following:
3. There is no name-claiming or quoting/screenshots from PMs.
As I made corrections twice in the game, the rule was intended to apply to role PMs. I did not anyone to quote large portions of the role PM they got from me. This caused a lot of confusion with regard to OC. After a couple of corrections, people did seem to get that memo.
As for the LYLO and MYLO confusion, this is mainly my fault. Basically, since Jinjo would have counted for parity purposes, I mistakenly called it a LYLO. However, Jinjo had the abilitu to kill one of her teammates so that had to go through. Hence it should have been a MYLO.
Overall, I try my best to try to keep the game line with normal TWR standards but I also like to deviate from it to experiment and to do some things expected. But the number one goal for me is to make games enjoyable. Hopefully I did that.
I want to reiterate that I had a great time with this game and the players did a good job playing this game. The game went in directions that I never expected or could even imagine. And I also learned a fair bit of hosting my own game. I am satisified with the hosting of the game and that I did break the mold of a typical TWR game.
I think that's all I have for host thoughts. Anyways, here's the usual postgame survey that you get for every mafia game.
Did you enjoy the game? What are the aspects of the game you enjoyed or not enjoyed?
If you were the host of this game, what would you change about this game?
Would you like to see another Piko hosted game? Should Piko make it more bastard? Less? About the same?