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I never played the fifth generation, skip the 4 to 3ds, teenage stuff I guess ... Should I take a look at it?
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It's funny how writing "play" instead of "played" changes the meaning of the sentence.
It's like "let's eat grandma" vs "let's eat, grandma." Originally I thought this thread was disparaging gen V, and I was comin' in ready to debate. Turns out it's almost the exact opposite of what I thought. At any rate, I agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread, I definitely recommend checking out gen V. The games certainly have their flaws, but they're also highly enjoyable as well in my opinion, even if they are stunted by a lack of online connectivity.It's funny how writing "play" instead of "played" changes the meaning of the sentence.
Perhaps in story yes, but BW2 are praised with having some of the best side/post game content in the series.All the fifth generation games are great! I highly recommend playing Black or White first, though, because the story in those games is the best that the Pokemon series has ever done, in my opinion. Like Sheep said, the story in Black 2 and White 2 isn't as good.
It's like "let's eat grandma" vs "let's eat, grandma." Originally I thought this thread was disparaging gen V, and I was comin' in ready to debate. Turns out it's almost the exact opposite of what I thought.
While B2W2 is a downgrade in terms of story, it does have a lot of neat stuff in it like Joint Avenue, PokeStar Studio, an expanded dex, and so on. Gen 5 is very much the best gen in the series, so I highly recommend you play it.
Yes. Just yes.
I wouldn't really call it a downgrade. It's more so the fact that it jumps out less because it builds upon/continues with what BW laid down, where as BW laid down the very foundation of everything.
This is a great point. I think my main issue with Plasma is that most of the time they act and behave like your run of the mill evil team. See, for example, how the Team Plasma members mistreat Munna in the Dream Yard.Team Plasma has a smidge of depth but is still obviously 'the' evil team.
I'm going to give voice to some heresy and say that the Gen V story... wasn't that good. I certainly don't remember the majority of the game's events differing significantly from those of almost every other game, and for the most part I wouldn't say the characters undergo substantial growth, or have an arc. N is a very interesting flavour of rival, but functionally little different from Blue. Team Plasma has a smidge of depth but is still obviously 'the' evil team. Bianca ad Cheren have very distinct personalities, but I was never particularly attached to them and wasn't moved by their personal situations. There's some great subversive sections in the late game, certainly, but that's the only section that sticks in my mind.
For me, the reigning monarchs of story are Sun and Moon, easily. It could just be the 3D graphics but I was much more invested in the trajectories of Guzma, Lusamine and especially Lillie - all of them have distinct arcs that leave them in a very different place at the end of the story, and their hang-ups and development revolve around self-perception and interactions with other characters. I felt Gen VII did well to have the plot's focus be almost entirely on humans, rather than the Pokémon.
It's so sad to see that people need/want to downplay Gen 5 at every turn just to upplay their favorite(s). I know it must be annoying for people to see it being brought up so much, but people just talk a lot about the stuff that's good and there where's credit due.
Also I don't see how you can go with SM for 'reigning monarchs' of story. Like any other gen bar Gen 5, there is no real story and the one thing that is going on with the legends is just an awful reskin of Kyurem. Only positive thing is the characterization of some characters.
This is kinda why I feel those are my second favorite games. Sure, they had their problems (like a certain red gadget), but they came at a moment where I was unsure if I should stay in the fandom, and you can see how well that went.For me, the reigning monarchs of story are Sun and Moon, easily. It could just be the 3D graphics but I was much more invested in the trajectories of Guzma, Lusamine and especially Lillie - all of them have distinct arcs that leave them in a very different place at the end of the story, and their hang-ups and development revolve around self-perception and interactions with other characters. I felt Gen VII did well to have the plot's focus be almost entirely on humans, rather than the Pokémon.