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Okay, so I was looking at the Gen VIII move listings and apparently Electivire doesn't learn Close Combat when even things like Tauros and Bouffalant do. Whut.
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Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special. Thus, even if it would be sub-optimal, Incineroar and Blaziken were probably designed to be at least usable special-wise. But, you do have a point; I would definitely like to see a special attacking Fire starter that does its job better than Delphox does. (Although, Charizard says hi?)Incineroar and Blaziken are probably handicapping themselves if they’re running a special move.
I was more geared towards competitive. They’re usable? Yes, but then, almost everything is. Literally any fully evolved Pokémon will be usable unless you stack it with 4 status moves. That really ain’t the point. But I daresay that if some person was made to look at these Pokémon and asked if they look to be physical or special, physical would be a major verdict. And their movesets and optimal configurations reflect that.Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special. Thus, even if it would be sub-optimal, Incineroar and Blaziken were probably designed to be at least usable special-wise. But, you do have a point; I would definitely like to see a special attacking Fire starter that does its job better than Delphox does. (Although, Charizard says hi?)
I mean, if we're talking as less recent as Gen 3, then that shouldn't have been a factor in movepools, because that's prior to the physical/special split.Well, I would think that some starters in less recent generations were meant to be easy to use in-game for beginners, who likely don't know the difference between physical and special.
Okay, so I was looking at the Gen VIII move listings and apparently Electivire doesn't learn Close Combat when even things like Tauros and Bouffalant do. Whut.
Now that I think about it... Vileplume learning Aromatherapy kinda sounds like it'sforcing the Pokémon to walk it off by making the area smell horrible, if what little knowledge of rafflesias I have is true.Vileplume shouldn't learn Aromatherapy. Why does it learn it, but Bellossom does not?
Well, to be fair Staraptor has been able to learn Close Combat from day 1, so the explanation that the move represents "fighting in general" does make sense. That said, if we go by that logic, then there's no reason that any Pokemon with limbs shouldn't be able to learn Close Combat.Druddigon. Has a tail, can learn Iron tail. Breaking swipe. Explained to be an attack using a hard tail. Druddigon cannot learn Breaking swipe. WHY?
I KNOW RIGHT? Quoting a previous post of mine: “As for the other side, every quadruped creature capable of learning Close combat. I got a Close combat TR in Shield, to teach it to my Gallade, and then found out my Tauros can learn it. HOW? How does a Tauros, something that is seemingly always on all fours, suddenly start punching the shit out of the opponent despite the lack of fists, how?”
According to a reply on this exact topic I posted on Reddit, Close combat isn’t just fists but fighting in general, and can therfore include claws and horns. But then, the pre 3D games had the Close combat animation be fists!
I think you meant Primeape, since Mankey has a tail. If you want a less scary alternative... think of it as them doing a hip drop like in Mario.Mankey, Alakazam, and Blissey can all learn iron tail. The implications of this are scary.
Er, Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding and Secret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.Gallade and Samurott with Sacred Sword. (The latter gets Secret Sword now but for some reason not the physical variant? What's up with this.)
Sirfetch'd cannot learn Sacred Sword despite literally holding a sword.
Er,Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding andSecret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.
Edit: As it turns out, Sacred Sword is only an egg move in USUM. Nevermind.
Well considering that’s the last game the Oshawott line was present in, I’d say it still counts.Sirfetch'd cannot learn Sacred Sword despite literally holding a sword.
Er,Samurott can already learn Sacred Sword through breeding andSecret Sword is exclusive to Keldeo.
Edit: As it turns out, Sacred Sword is only an egg move in USUM. Nevermind.
For some reason, I thought the gen 5 starters were in SwSh.Well considering that’s the last game the Oshawott line was present in, I’d say it still counts.