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I dont dislike it the way I used to do tbh. It is actually pretty decent
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I thought Burgundy and Georgia were completely stupid and childish with their goals and as people.Nothing truly meaningful. The rivalries weren't really that fulfilling, especially when it came to Burgundy who was merely a joke and did little to expand on Cilan's goal or even further develop Ponemon Connoisseurs. Nothing came about that rivalry.
Georgia wasn't that much better. What the heck is a "Dragon Buster?" Oh, I'll tell you - a self-proclaimed "profession" born out of, you guessed it, spite. Just because she lost to a Dragon-type in a random battle in the past. She journeyed around Unova to fight Dragon-types... She didn't even participate in the League, implying she didn't take on the hallmark experience of active Trainers. She didn't help Iris further herself as a Dragon-type Master at all, was just as obnoxious and haughty as Burgundy, and could never take a loss gracefully - all four of her on-screen losses she disregarded due to "Well, I wasn't fighting a Dragon-type" or some other nonsense. No depth, no substance, no relevance. Unlike Burgundy, she didn't make Iris look good per se, but she sure didn't challenge Iris' ideology in any meaningful way.
I think the most baffling thing is how if both of these ladies were written out of the show, Cilan and Iris would literally be no different at the end of the BW saga. And that's ridiculous.
This is why I hate Cilan as a character. Guy didn't had any challenges, or trials, or anything to developt. Like, you would think that since this whole ''Connoiseur'' thing is a anime-exclusive deal, they would explain stuff better, wouldn't they? Buy they don't. What exactly does he needs to do in order to grow? Nothing. He doesn't has anything to grow out of or any flaws to remedy as time goes on.As Cilan was already perfect and literally had nothing to develop during his journey as a Connoisseur (which is a stupid occupation, anyway - since when have Trainers cared about compatibility with something they want to catch? The thought of Cilan meeting Go makes me cackle)
You know I've wondered before if in that timeline Ash would lose to N in the finals of the Unova League then wins the first time in Kalos instead of Alola (although the context would be different--I imagine Alain wouldn't exist in this version of XY, at least).I wonder what would've happen if the skipped Plasma episodes had aired, and if we'd got a Pocket Monsters Gray instead of B2W2. Probably N'd have been introduced way before he was and there's some chance we would have the Kalos League outcome here. Idk, I'm pretty sure people would've accepted BW better in those conditions.
Someone even pointed out the possibility that Alan played what was supposed to be N's role for example.
Course none of those fix some of the worst issues this series had, like Trio's personality shift, but at least no Kotetsu in this scenario xD
I know people have Iris as ''the worst thing about BW'', but imo it's actually Cilan.
cough Chloe coughCertain fans of the show consider Iris as the worst thing because she's not all bubbly and sweet like the other female leads and she isn't constantly kissing Ash's ass. Now I can see why they would be annoyed with Iris calling Ash a kid, but they still take her way too seriously.
cough Chloe cough
I mentioned her cuz she isnt all friendly with Ash but people like her.Chloe bores me, but I don’t hate her nor is she my least favorite companion of Ash’s.
I mentioned her cuz she isnt all friendly with Ash but people like her.
LOLWell that’s because Chloe doesn’t appear in every single episode like Iris did tho.
All of her interactions with Ash in the episodes she is in are awkard (Aside from JN038). Iris had some good interactions.Well that’s because Chloe doesn’t appear in every single episode like Iris did tho.
I think the saddest part about how Burgundy and Georgia were handled is that these two had a lot of potential: Burgundy was our fist true instance of a main character's rival being the underdog to the main character instead of the other way around, so we could very easily have had an arc about Burgundy maturing and learning to respect Cilan, and Cilan in turn could have maybe had an arc where Burgundy helps him with his Purrloin phobia (you know, that thing that was never elaborated on and existed solely for gag purposes which is probably why most people don't remember that it exists?)I thought Burgundy and Georgia were completely stupid and childish with their goals and as people.
As Cilan was already perfect and literally had nothing to develop during his journey as a Connoisseur (which is a stupid occupation, anyway - since when have Trainers cared about compatibility with something they want to catch? The thought of Cilan meeting Go makes me cackle), Burgundy was already doomed to fail. The two times the writers gave her space to demonstrate her chops as a Connoisseuse, they had her a) be completely incorrect and spiteful in her observations and b) be completely outstaged by Cilan. She didn't fare much better with her battles, as she lost every initial round of every tournament she participated in; even her introductory flashback highlighted a loss. Oh! And her Dewott lost twice on-screen to opponents it had advantageous typing over. Then, they supplemented her lack of effect on her "rival" by making her extremely obnoxious, rude, and unpleasant. So you couldn't even root for her due to her being so unlikable. She only existed to make Cilan look good.
Georgia wasn't that much better. What the heck is a "Dragon Buster?" Oh, I'll tell you - a self-proclaimed "profession" born out of, you guessed it, spite. Just because she lost to a Dragon-type in a random battle in the past. She journeyed around Unova to fight Dragon-types... She didn't even participate in the League, implying she didn't take on the hallmark experience of active Trainers. She didn't help Iris further herself as a Dragon-type Master at all, was just as obnoxious and haughty as Burgundy, and could never take a loss gracefully - all four of her on-screen losses she disregarded due to "Well, I wasn't fighting a Dragon-type" or some other nonsense. No depth, no substance, no relevance. Unlike Burgundy, she didn't make Iris look good per se, but she sure didn't challenge Iris' ideology in any meaningful way.
I think the most baffling thing is how if both of these ladies were written out of the show, Cilan and Iris would literally be no different at the end of the BW saga. And that's ridiculous.
All of her interactions with Ash in the episodes she is in are awkard (Aside from JN038). Iris had some good interactions.
OkI understand. I’m not trying to be mean/rude, but I’m just saying that screen time can really determine how annoying one may find a character.
For example, many fans hate Paul more than Damian & Shamus (when those who are worse than him) because Paul got more screen time than they did. That’s what I was trying to imply.
There is that one episode from Delclore Islands.(you know, that thing that was never elaborated on and existed solely for gag purposes which is probably why most people don't remember that it exists?)
Certain fans of the show consider Iris as the worst thing because she's not all bubbly and sweet like the other female leads and she isn't constantly kissing Ash's ass. Now I can see why they would be annoyed with Iris calling Ash a kid and there were a few problems with her arc, but they still take her way too seriously.