TechSkylander1518
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I'd argue that there's no such thing as the "Fandom Consensus" as evident by how fractured the fandom is over Dexit and SwSh. For example, during SwSh's prelease cycle, the subreddit r/pokemon was very negative towards the games and hostile to those that held a positive or even neutral opinion while r/PokemonSwordAndShield was the exact opposite. Bulbagarden was more in-between methinks. It would probably be very difficult to present an unbiased Opinion/Fandom Reception Section that accurately encompasses the diversity of opinions on a particular subject that doesn't paint with broad strokes. Honestly, I think a Fandom Reception Section would be written from a more hardcore fan's point of view, which is narrow, and would probably have issues with edit wars, bias, broad-brushing, etc. Ultimately, I don't think such a section should be included in the wiki as it's just asking for trouble.One thing that I strongly suggest is to add an Opinion/Fandom Reception Section in each page for any Major Mainline Pokemon Game/Anime/Character that details how the fandom reacted or received such things. I am not talking about critic reception (*such as IGN, Famitsu Reviews) but how the Fandom Consensus reacted. I don't think the Dex Controversy is even mentioned in the SwSh page.
It'd be kind of hard to have a fandom consensus, though, wouldn't it? Pokemon's a game with millions of players, and they all have their own opinions.One thing that I strongly suggest is to add an Opinion/Fandom Reception Section in each page for any Major Mainline Pokemon Game/Anime/Character that details how the fandom reacted or received such things. I am not talking about critic reception (*such as IGN, Famitsu Reviews) but how the Fandom Consensus reacted. I don't think the Dex Controversy is even mentioned in the SwSh page.
On my end, it's accurate, so I'm guessing it's a Western time zone, at least.Sorry for double-posting, but the highlighted rows on the Island Scan list seem to be a day behind. What timezone does Bulbapedia use?
Does anybody happen to know why available Pokemon in Generation 8 don't have their respective in-game appearances on their Bulbapedia pages with the rest of the generations, despite at least some of the images being available? Would it be alright for me to add them?
Technically I’d say yes, but what I’ve seen, very few Bulbapedia editors are very active on here. Honestly, the best place for origin suggestions would be the discussion page for that particular Pokémon, though I can understand why you might be hesitant to post there.Hello! Would this be the place to put suggestions on the origins of certain Pokemon that are not covered in their articles. I don't feel comfortable editing the articles myself as someone whose never edited a wiki before. Though I also don't want to throw two paragraphs on what and why I think these Pokemon are based on these things in the wrong Thread.
I don't think this is the case. None of the two lines ever reference or hint at the legend, and any attributes that you credit to the myth have much more simple and obvious origins; Occam's razor suggests these are the actual inspirations. The Thievel line's Dark type can be explained by the fact that foxes are commonly depicted as sneaky tricksters in folklore, which is very fitting for the Dark type. Not to mention that Thievel and Nickit are based on thieves; this, along with the two lines' references to fox hunting, are probably also the reason why they have Run Away as an ability. Boltund appears to be based on hounds that hunt foxes, hence why it is Thievel's natural enemy, and Yamper's ability is obviously just a reference to the fact that dogs like to play fetch.If you know the of myth, then it's almost undoubtable that Boltund and Thievul, along with their respective preevolutions, are based on Laelaps and the Teumessian Fox. And I'm very surprised it's not mentioned in their article's because I know there's someone on the wiki that knows of the myth because it's mentioned in Zacian's and Zamazenta's origins. For those who don't know, it's a Greek myth about a giant fox sent by the gods to terrorize Thebes. This fox was destined to never be able to be caught. In order to try to stop the Teumessian Fox, Laelaps, a hunting dog that was destined to catch whatever it chases, was sent after it. However, the two destinies caused a paradox, so they were turned to stone and sent into the stars as the Canis Constellations. As more evidence than just being two staged Pokemon released in the same generation as to their relation, one of Thievul's Pokedex explicitly states that Boltund is it's natural enemy. Their connection to the myth can be further seen in their Typings and their Abilities. Laelaps was said to be a gift from Zeus, god of thunder, and well Boltund is an Electric type, while the Teumessian Fox was just generally malicious, fitting with the Dark Type. Yamper's ability, Ball Fetch helps with catching Pokemon, while Nickit's and Thievul's ability, Run Away, helps with evading capture.
The Dragapult line shares nothing in common with gremlins outside of a connection to aircraft. Lore-wise, nothing about them suggests a penchant for mischief, the core motif of a gremlin, and design-wise the line bears no resemblance to the very humanoid gremlins, even the movie-ones, being more animal-shaped. And, they're most likely not meant to be reptiles; judging by their boomerang-shaped head, body shape, and Dreepy's reference to once living in prehistoric seas, it appears that the line is inspired by the extinct amphibian Diplocaulus.I believe the Dragapult line may take some inspirations from Gremlins. Gremlins are mischievous folkloric creatures that were blamed for unexplainable malfunctions in aircrafts, with it's tales originating from United Kingdom's Royal Air Force during World War II. Though there's no definitive design for Gremlins, but there are two main categories, the early ones which are a bit like little elves and gnomes seen in World War II posters and the Roald Dahl and Disney book, The Gremlins, and the modern take, small greenish goblin-like creature with large pointy ears, and sometimes a bit reptilian and aquatic, with the most popular design being that of Gremlins (1984). It's so popular in fact it's hard finding any other designs from a Google search. It's this more modern take that I believe the Dragapult line takes it's inspirations from, being well greenish, reptilian, and aquatic, along with their crests somewhat resembling those large pointed ears. So I think there should a little "This pokemon may also take some inspirations from Gremlins, creatures of folklore that were blamed for malfunctions in aircrafts" at the end.