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  • N: You have been acknowledged by Zekrom as its new Hero. Right! As a Trainer whose feelings are strong enough to change the world! I have something to tell you. Go to the Giant Hole! Kyurem's back. My Friend told me so. [B2W2]! The world you desire together with Pokemon... How much you love them... I too am excited waiting to find out. Someday... Pokemon and people will be able to be bound together without Monster Balls, believing and helping out each other... Make a world where that'll happen.

    For a Lv.70 legendary, it sure was easy to catch. I caught it with only a single Pokeball. o.o;
    I have another idea, recall my past theory that we'd have three 720 legendaries loosely based on the Trimurti (beings of creation, balance/maintenance, destruction/change)? Given that it seems hard for people to access the Abyssal ruins before getting the book, and the fact that the translation has no way of indicating the names are interchangeable, perhaps Game Freak is retconing it, just like how they retcon'd the Moor of Icirrus event. My theory then, is that ③ is the dragon of destruction, and the King defeated it alone. Seeing this, ④ (the Original Dragon) joined the king. This could explain why the Original Dragon is still whole by the Twin Heroes' time, as it had not actually split. With the King dead, the civilization eventually lost their way over time and no one was able to control ④, until the Twin heroes came along to restore balance. Unfortunately, ④ wants to side with both heroes, resulting in the split we have today.
    The love flowing from your whole body toward your Pokemon! I felt it!
    Me and Zekrom were beaten. Your desire to know the truth surpassed us. When fighting with you, I remembered that time 2 years ago... It's only faintly, but I felt like I understood you... And, Zekrom, thank you for everything. Travelling with you was indeed wonderful. From now, use your strength for him, so that his dream can be granted...!
    BARIRI!
    ...I'm sad too. But your role is to guide those people who seek ideals. I've learnt lots of things from you. And thanks to my power, I can tell them to other people. I'll be fine. I can talk with Pokemon. Yes! I'll become the bridge between Pokemon and people...! That is my ideal! So... goodnight...
    [B2W2]! I give it to you! Take the Dark Stone! With that Dark Stone, go to Dragonspiral Tower! Go to Dragonspiral Tower... I... will look for that trainer from two years ago. So... that I can say "Thanks".
    It would seem that Zoroark have some sort of dream-related power. At the Lostlorn Forest, one said that you must believe dreams, and not doubt them. After beating Iris, when you leave your house, Hue and Hue's Younger Sister turn up, and tell you she had a dream of a Zoroark asking her to get you to go to it in Victory Road.

    N: So you've come. This place is... Team Plasma's castle. The remains of Ghetsis's Dream. And in the innermost part of this castle... in a place very special to me, I will face you...! Now, come with me! ...No. Rather than me guiding you, I wonder what you'll show interest in here...? Is what I mean to say! Follow me to the inermost part of this castle. >Yes Then, I will guide you.
    Here, I... was shown of peoples' troubles by The Goddesses... and recieved various knowledge from The Seven Sages...
    This conversation, except '......it is outside.' should be '......I'll be outside.'.
    This is the place. Now, proceed.
    There! Two years ago, for the sake of Pokemon, to create an ideal world, I put my faiths on the line and fought A Trainer! ...and was beaten. And that moment, I realised something important! To make the world varied, differing views must be accepted. That is the numerical formula for changing the world. Accepting differing views... I want to find out if you too have the strength of heart for that. Out, Zekrom! Zekrom too wants to know what sort of trainer you are and what ideal you seek. Fight with me... Are you ready? >Yes Then show it to me! Your resolve!!
    More! Let me hear your Pokemon's voices more!
    That's why I believe ③ and ④ can refer to B/W Kyurem and Reshiram/Zekrom despite being interchangeable Essentially, I think Game Freak is throwing us a curve ball here. I say Ghetsis managed to translate what ③ and ④ means realizing that ④ referred to the PC's dragon, and ③ referred to a dragon similar to N's, but was somehow different. Perhaps he had knowledge of Kyurem's possible existence, and pieced together that ③ was Kyurem fused together with the other dragon.
    It might be stretching it, but I can still see ③ and ④ referring to B/W Kyurem and the remaining dragon. These are untranslatable names, which suggest that the names used may not correlate with the names we associate with the dragons we know of. If the original split resulted in B/W Kyurem and Reshiram/Zekrom, then then calling it Kyurem wouldn't make sense because that name is derived from the word "nothingness" but that Kyurem is still filled with Yin or Yang. Perhaps the interchangeable names refer to the state of energy contained within?
    At the very least, it would seem like there's three ages of Unova. The first age is the age of the Great King and the Abyssal ruins. Something may have happened which lead to Unova's decay, and the region splitting apart. The second age is marked by the Twin Heroes' reunification, which unfortunately ended with their son's destruction of the region. Now the last age, I think correlates with the war alluded in the Sacred Swordsmen's legend, which may have reunified Unova but without the Human-Pokemon harmony that was present in the past two ages.

    I'm not sure why Ghetsis didn't mention the king...perhaps he doesn't actually care that much about kings and legends and only cared to learn about a third dragon?
    I only have the text from Black2, but at least there, ③ and ④ are still exactly the same symbols they are in Black, and not the same symbol repeated twice. I don't have White2's text (although I don't even know if it'd be in the text, or swapped in the actual font) to check.
    I guess only people who tried to translate the text would know. Japanese players did work it out shortly after the release, and then had to translate the English to Japanese to make sense of it. Here you mentioned that the Japanese was a translation, so I thought you knew.
    They are in coded English (squiggly cuneiform symbols) in B2W2 from the beginning.
    That's my point -- you have to deliberately reject the rival's battle (or, I presume, lose) to go and see the coded English text.
    And some which don't change much, but are interesting for their other meanings:
    "KING DEFEATED ③ ALONE" backtranslates to "The King got rid of ●●●● alone."
    "④ JOINED KING IN A DAY" backtranslates to "●●●● soon became the king's ally."
    "KING CALLED ⑤ BEINGS" backtranslates to "The king called ●●●● living creatures."
    "KING IS HOPE AND FUTURE" backtranslates to "The king is our hope, and is our future."
    "THE GREAT KING ⑥" backtranslates to "Here the great king ●●●●● is praised."
    Now, one way of redacting text in Japanese is to replace it with circles. When this is done, however, the amount of circles correspond to the amount of redacted characters. As such, this tells us some information about the four circled characters from BW. The first three are thus four characters long. Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem are all four characters long. As for the last one, Natural, Harmonia, Gropius, even Ghetsis and Pikachu could be candidates. As such, I'm starting to think the first two are definitely Reshi/Zek, and the third is 'Pokemon'. The fourth, though, I have no idea on, but with these backtranslations, they're beginning to sound more and more like N...
    From going through the messages, it seems Ghetsis somehow managed to translate words and whole sentences which aren't even in the ruins. It's possible that the 'script' for the ruins was originally in Japanese, but was abridged when translated to English, with the Ghetsis translations restoring the full meaning. Most changes are a word swapped out here or there, but here are the most different ones:
    "LISTEN TO KINGS WORDS" backtranslates to "Oh brave one, listen to the king's words."
    "PRIMES LEAD TO TRUTH" backtranslates to "The one who understands prime numbers, understands the truth of the world."
    "NO KING GETS LOST" backtranslates to "There is no doubt upon the path of the king. One who is lost does not have the capability to be the king."
    "GO ON BRAVE KING" backtranslates to "There is no doubt upon the path of the king. Oh brave one, proceed on."
    "LIFE IS GRATITUDE" backtranslates to "That which is life, means having gratitude toward everything."
    "GOOD OR EVIL ISNT ALL" (?) backtranslates to "Good and evil are not all that exist. Love also does."
    "ALL IS PRECIOUS" backtranslates to "Everything is equally precious."
    "WARS CREATE TEARS" backtranslates to "Fighting creates nothing, nothing but infinite sadness."
    "SHINE IF AGREED" backtranslates to "If you understand the king, release here light."
    "KING TALKS TO ALL BEINGS" backtranslates to "The king has the power to converse with all living creatures."
    "SAVED ALL FROM WAVES" backtranslates to "The king could read the future, and protected the nation from a great Tsunami."
    "KING IS HOPE FOR ALL" backtranslates to "The king is every hope, and is every ideal."
    "THINK ACT WITH LOVE" (?) backtranslates to "They have a loving heart and the strength to love."
    "ACT STRONG IF AGREED" backtranslates to "If you understand the king, show the same power as the king."
    It turns out that the Grave description was just the description of the Abyssal Ruins... they weren't marked on the 'full' map Serebii posted, so I assumed they weren't counted as one, and there were no other map locations. I guess he just hadn't bothered with them.

    I didn't get these messages, but I assume they're if you get stuck and ask Vio for help. A Japanese blog confirms this, but doesn't say what the conditions for each are. Perhaps they're if you leave on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd floors respectively.
    From Lord Ghetsis's writings, it seems the ancient peoples' script is read backwards.
    I believe this is written in the books... "When you get to the 2nd floor, read the symbols shifted by one. When you get to the 3rd floor, the symbols are shifted by one again." In this case, shifted means replaced with the previous symbol.
    The one who stopped the war of the nation and united it was the being that's called "king", right? A king that could see the future and speak to any and all living creatures united the people... if this is true, they're truly a hero!

    And if you talk to Vio after reaching the top floor:
    What!? You managed to proceed even further!? So, what codes were left behind? ... ... ... ... ... ... Hm, hmm, interesting... There are symbols which cannot be worked out, but from their context you can guess their meaning... If such an unbelievably wonderful king is sleeping in these ruins, perhaps if he has any descendants, they may possess special powers too... [B2W2] got a Big Pearl! I've gathered what I wished to know about the Undersea Ruins. Well then… Farewell! You admirable yet enemy Pokemon Trainer!
    I may be reading too much into it, but given that Ghetsis knew about Kyurem's ability to take in the other dragons, that he may have learned it after translating the ruins in Abyssal Ruins. Do the current translations by the game identify those numbers or is it still ambiguous?
    Vio:
    Vio: This place is warm. Now, the main topic! Here are books left behind by Lord Ghetsis. With these, you can read the ancient script of the Underwater Ruins. As my atonement... Read these books!
    [B2W2] became able to read the Underwater Ruins' script!
    Just so you know, you go into Sazanami Bay and use Diving to get to the Underwater Ruins. Then you may chronicle the codes found in the Underwater Ruins yourself!

    I checked, and before this event, the Abyssal Ruins are in English. So Ghetsis has been down there, and decoded them... that's why pictures were seen with it in Japanese.
    Interestingly, the Abysall Ruins are hard to get to in B2W2 without this event. At the start of that video, you recieve Dive. At the end, you can read the script. So you deliberately have to look to see the Ruins still in English.

    Asura:
    You meet up with him in Pinwheel Forest and he mumbles on about how mistakes aren't mistakes until they're made, so making mistakes is inevitable in order to continue on, and that stealing the Dragon Skull was his mistake. He doesn't seem to take any side, but Cheren says he's with 'Team Plasma', though whether that refers to Neo, or just in general, is unspecified.
    Sages: The only one in Driftveil is Rot. The very title 'The Seven Sages' is still applied though, even though there are only three about in B2W2.
    Pinkhair: I wonder if N knew. That the reason that Trainers fight is not to hurt each others' Pokemon, it is so Pokemon and Trainers can come to understand each other. It is the most simple method for this. By fighting honest battles, both people and Pokemon lay bare their real nature.
    Yellowhair: I... could not understand the pure, innocent feelings of N. But by travelling with a Legendary Pokemon, he discovered something, and began to do what he himself wished to in his own thoughts... That is very joyful to hear.
    Grave: Nope, nothing on the map. I had thought it may be the description for an off-map pointer (Nature Sanctuary), but it's not(NS doesn't have one at all).
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