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  • Can you tell me the secrets of the Unown and the Ruins of Alph? For example, what do Ho-Oh and the ancient fossil Pokémon have to with them? >_>
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    The Unown are very timid creatures, so they don't go outside the ruins. Even if a bunch of people gathered near the ruins, it is said that the ones who wished for Unown and humans to again coexist have all left.

    Basically, Johto became overpopulated with people, who weren't like the clan. I guess that the Sinjoh Ruins were a quieter place, and the people from Spear Pillar weren't a threat.

    On a biased note, I really don't like Arceus. I am not a big fan of the Sinjoh Ruins event.
    Blast
    Blast
    What a sad story... Then clan moved away and started to worship Arceus with the people from Sinnoh? I personally think the Arceus is very unique and interesting. Though the connection between Arceus and the Unown is so vague.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    They participated in the dance ritual, but I wonder if they really worshipped Arceus. Maybe they just followed the Unown's orders without knowing the reason.

    After all, Cynthia implies that the clan (or I guess their descendants) returned to Johto at some point, which explains the Kimono Girls' rituals. But there is no sign of Arceus worship in Johto.
    Heyo, Silk right? How's it going? I've taken periodic breaks here, especially during the last two gens, so hopefully I can get more excited to be engaged this time.

    What do you make of a BOTW "tiered" game? I'm leery to get my hopes up, but maybe it could mean a more open approach to exploring and not a linear badge quest.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    Yep, I'm Silktree. I changed my name because I intend to include Prof. Silktree (referenced in the Ruins of Alph) in my fanfic.

    I haven't played BOTW, so I can't really comment. You mean a system where the areas and bosses are independent of each other, right? There is a Crystal hack that has a system where trainer levels depend on your number of badges, and you can even move freely between Kanto and Johto from early on. The developer chose to remove Silver and Team Rocket to facilitate that system... I can think of a way around that, but it rubbed me the wrong way.

    And as you implied, you shouldn't get your hopes up.
    El_
    El_
    Well, you essentially have free reign in a massive map to take up any of the main quest at any point. I mention it under spoilers in the thread: https://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/official-generation-8-speculation-leaks-thread-updated-22nd-sept-2018.254262/page-1112#post-6680677

    It is really fantastic, and I'm not even normally a Zelda player. What you mentioned sounds exactly like what I was getting at. An issue I could see is someone attempting to speed the game while the trainers are all weak at a few badges, but having villains independent of that could provide incentive, or just letting the badges be optional.

    Do you see it taking place within the U.K.? Do you think all the crown/scepter merch & speculation is just fluff?
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    On the contrary, badges would be the best way to have variable levels influencing all the trainers. But the story beats should have a fixed order, unless Game Freak are quite ambitious with the branching. The BOTW story fragments wouldn't work, I believe.

    The UK is a distinct possibility, but the merchandise just ties into the LGPE crown accessory, which I doubt is a hint. And uh, if they've chosen the UK, please keep the connection to Kalos minimal.
    Didn't visit the forum for recent months due to Real-Life. How were you these days?
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    Unown Seer
    Somehow I missed your post for all this time - sorry about that. I'm fine, although my job (being a PhD student and a teacher) doesn't leave me motivated to write my story (for 10 months now). Have you had this problem?

    Other than that, I'm still sore about LGPE not being GSC sequels, and not even being better remakes than FRLG. But I get that the target audience are kids and their parents, which honestly makes me doubt that I'll be interested in any future games. When Game Freak pander to "hardcore" fans, it usually involves the metagame or forced cameos.
    CrystaI
    CrystaI
    That's OK. For me, I had already halted my fanfic writing for more than a year. Having a full-time job really means you have to give up a lot of things, especially hobbies due to lack of leisure time (I felt like giving up more than just that, because in the recent half year I even giving up a lot of sleeping hours). So you will never be alone in this matter.

    I don't even ever thought of trying to connect LGPE to previous gen anymore. I was just kinda feel like... This is a standalone series, in-universe chronical-wise it is just detached from previous series, I just took it as a complete separate timeline or possibly a different universe.
    I haven't checked out any information about LGPE yet. So for me, this kind of assumption, or more correctly speaking just a feeling of atmospheric impression, was stemmed from the fatigue of connection to the past.

    Sorry to say this, but I really feel pointless and a waste of energy of trying to make reference to past series. Especially for games, since every series you the player starts as a newbie trainer in a new region, so what is the point of any reference to the past? It is not like those past reference or appearance of previously-existing characters will improve the gameplay experience (well I guess there always exist players value the Easter Eggs more than the meat itself)
    Someone dislike the "freshness" GenV BW provided, but I was among one of those that highly appreciated it. Being free from troubling my mind about the past IMO is a strength than a weakness.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    It's terrible that you have to cut back on sleeping. Do you make up for it during the weekend?

    I actually have enough time for writing, but I've preferred doing lighter things. The truth is that the environment on BMGf with the (sometimes harsh) reviews and awards kind of ruined the fun for me, but I should really stop caring about that. I keep thinking about the story, so I need to write it for my own sake.

    You're right that the easter eggs are mostly meaningless, although the general problem (by general consensus) with BW was the lack of old Pokemon in the main story. BW actually had three returning characters from DPPt, whereas RS had none and XY only had Looker.
    I'm not sure if you've noticed or cared, but two days ago, I passed you on the most liked users list, taking the number 5 spot for myself.

    Just thought I'd let you know. It's become a tradition of mine to inform other users when I bypass them on that list. Because Wynaut?
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I don't mind the list thing, but I have to say that your message comes across as bragging. It isn't necessary.
    FinnishPokéFan92
    FinnishPokéFan92
    Sorry. I honestly didn't mean to sound like that.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    No problem.
    Hello there Silk. How goes things?
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I'm doing well and hope that the same goes for you.

    There is something I need to ask you. A PM would be best.
    I read what you have so far and I like it! I like that it features Ethan, Lyra, and Kris. I also like that there's not much focus on battles, since that's pretty much the bread and butter of the games and anime. I look forward to the updates!
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    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    Happy 2018.

    Did you get the mention in my new chapter? Sometimes it doesn't work.
    smalllady
    smalllady
    Happy New Year! The mention didn't work...I just read the new chapter and I thought the part about the failed attempt to revive an Aerodactyl fossil was interesting.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    It probably didn't work because I edited it into the post.
    I think I can rest easy now. It looks like the main reason there were so many USUM shills before is because of Game Freak's lies regarding how different the games were going to be. After the datamine, I'm seeing a different side to people.
    Scarftail
    Scarftail
    Combined with how late these games are since the 3DS' launch and the Pokemon G:bulbaWave:anniversary craze being over, we shouldn't expect to see these games sell 7 million units like before. I'd lose a lot of faith if that did in fact happen. I mean, they're arguably worse than Emerald and Platinum.

    I realize I should just be treating this year like a break year, but the problem is that there may be yet another break year...
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I don't trust the hardcore fans (forum goers) not to buy the games, anyway. We'll see about the casual base.

    I've actually seen Game Freak claim that USUM were designed to be an entry point for people who rediscovered the series via Go. I can't speak for those fans, but I'd think the games feeling samey was one of the reasons they lost interest years ago.
    Hello. Something caught my attention.

    "Regarding the story, is it a sequel or an alternate narrative?

    Shigeru Ohmori: These new versions are not a sequel like Black 2 and White 2. They are what we call an "enhanced version", just like the Emerald and Platinum versions in past generations."
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    Ishihara recently admitted that he told Nintendo the Switch would fail. Only after the initial success did he come around (around April) and Masuda probably acted the same way.

    I don't think it will be a Generation VII game anymore, and they will probably wait till 2019 (they didn't promise 2018). What I have in mind is a new genetation that starts in Kanto with an initial set of new Pokemon, and moves onto the new region a year or two later with even more Pokemon.

    My main reason for considering this is that I'd find it odd if the Lillie foreshadowing turned out to be for 2021 sequels or nothing at all. It wasn't quite as blatant as the Strange Souvenir, but it was pretty close.

    Also, I don't think that most fans are dying to see a new region; they're just expecting it based on the pattern. Likewise, designing a new region every 3 years is probably not an easy thing to do. Using an existing map should be quite a bit easier, especially when Game Freak live in Tokyo. And if new Pokemon and some mechanics were added, would there be less excitement for such sequels than for XY-like games?
    Scarftail
    Scarftail
    The Lillie foreshadowing could be referring to USUM. A poster and a potential leak are implying she's going to become a Trainer in those games, even if briefly. Also, the fact that Lusamine might still be a factor in the post-game makes me think she might not get poisoned to need to go to Kanto with Lillie to be tended to.

    Since we're at the bottom of the barrel this year, I don't care when Red/Green sequels might happen basically as long as they replace enhanced versions in the next generation. Especially if Switch Pokemon games cost $60.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I don't see how that would count as foreshadowing, since Lillie hasn't been to Kanto and she is a beginning trainer at best.

    I predict that Lusamine will go to Kanto to hunt Giovanni down, or maybe he'll fuse her with Nihilego, but we'll see. Either way, I'm pretty sure that SM are the "canon" games as far as inter-generation connections go.
    I saw the executions and most notable scenes, but read the scripts first. (Since that's what was leaked first.) To be honest, the fake spoilers going around made for a much more entertaining story than the real thing. But the meta twist makes for good fanfic ideas.
    Karamazov
    Karamazov
    The fake spoilers were so fun. But yeah, the gameplay seems like a main draw. But honestly, I'd rather get 2, since it has good gameplay on top of having my favorite DR characters.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I like the V3 cast the best. Namely Shuichi, Kaede, Kaito, Maki and especially Kokichi.

    Monomi was the best part of 2 for me.
    Karamazov
    Karamazov
    Oh, I actually also like those guys. And the robot, and Tenko. (But mostly because of her awkward faces.)
    I followed the Something Awful Let's Plays, then moved on to other Let's Pays and summaries. I'm all caught up on spoilers for DRV3, and I've seen all the anime. Did you like the anime, btw?

    I'm not too big on the Telltale TWD series, but looking up S;G 0, I'm really loving the aesthetics. If I can't get this game, I'll at least try and follow playthroughs or something. It looks really good.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    I got spoiled (by me, lol) on the first chapter and ending for both 2 and V3. I still had four chapters to look forward to, so did you watch each playthrough fully?

    I didn't finish watching the adaptation of the first game. As is usually the case for visual novel adaptations, the plot is heavily condensed.

    I didn't like 3 at all. To be honest, the Ultimate Despair lore is the weakest part of the games and 3 was all about it. I'd been hoping to see the D2 kids actually act as Ultimate Despairs, but that never happened. The brainwash plot device was disappointing, too, because it meant that the D2 kids were squeaky clean.

    I really like V3's meta twist. I kind of want to see what Shuichi and Maki are going to do next. Maybe there will be a light novel about that.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    There is also Chaos;Child which is going to be released next Tuesday. It's part of the same world as Steins;Gate. The moe girls are annoying to look at, but the positive reviews have lured me into the web of delusions (the central theme of the game).
    Yeah, I'd definitely like to get DR. I follow the games, but never played them. Zero Escape sounds like a blast, though.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    How do you follow the games? YouTube? Just wondering how much you know about them.

    There is also Steins;Gate if you haven't watched the anime, and there is a related game called Steins;Gate 0. I'm probably just telling you about stuff you know...

    Also the first season of Telltale's The Walking Dead.
    Actually dang, that's the best deal I've seen on the system. Thanks!
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    Glad to have helped.

    Now, the games I'd recommend are the Danganronpa and Zero Escape series. The latter is available between the DS and 3DS, but unless you've already played them, it makes much more sense to get the Vita versions for the better graphics, and more importantly, the bundle of the first two games (Nonary Games) which adds voice acting and fixes a big design flaw of the first game (999).

    Danganronpa takes itself less seriously, but I get the feeling that it would appeal to you more. Both series are dark, but Danganronpa has a lot of comedy alongside the hope vs. despair theme. I prefer Zero Escape due to its twists resonating with me far more, and some really emotional moments.
    Regarding on your fanfic, although I appreciate your notification, but I guess such kind of traditional game-verse journey fic is just not my cup of tea. Although the beginning so far is not bad, but I would suggest to have a bit more originality especially expand the worldbuilding beyond just what the game had already provided.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    But I am exploring Johto and its lore via Kris' perspective, and I'd argue that I do that in an original way if you read Chapter 2.

    Ernest's storyline is completely original, so I don't understand your point. The entire idea of two perspectives is tying two different eras together.

    Finally, most fans on BMGf and other forums have at least played GS or HGSS. Crystal has some differences, but not to the point that anyone should be confused.
    CrystaI
    CrystaI
    Ernest side is fine, I'm just not very fond of Kris side as it had a vibe of replicating the game's story. But I'll pass it over for now because it is still the beginning. Let's see what you can do for the first major plot line.

    And last bit. What you said at last is contradicting what you said in the fic thread:
    "Not to mention that Crystal is an old game and I don't expect every reader to be familiar with its more obscure aspects"
    That's why I suggest write your fic in a way that can be understandable even for the ones that haven't played Crystal, or even for the ones that haven't played any Pokemon games for years.
    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    It isn't contradictory because I wad referring to the opening, which depicts an event that never happened in the game itself. And the prologue explains my interpretation.

    Kris' side follows Ethan's story, so the only events borrowed from the game... are the legendary encounters with a twist. Other than that, Kris has a very different goal than what we see in any game.

    Anyway, it's okay if the fanfic simply isn't your cup of tea just because.
    Unown is cute. What’s your favorite letter?
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    Unown Seer
    Unown Seer
    Favorite letter... Probably A because it looks like a radio tower, which is fitting given the use of radio waves.

    But I tend to think of the forms collectively.
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