Spoilers Official Let's Go Pikachu/Let's Go Eevee Discussion Thread

[Envoy]

According to Serebii, Junichi Masuda may have confirmed that LGPE will be compatible with Gen VIII.
Serebii.net - Where Legends Come To Life

At the very least, it seems like he’s trying to make it happen.

 

[Plubio]

Dragonair

As much as I like Dragonite, Dragonair is just beautiful.
Why Game Freak.

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On topic now, I hope that means LG will be Bank compatible. Would be neat, at least.

 

[KiranTheWitch]

I'm absolutely certain that Pokebank will be compatible with LG and the new games next year. 109% certain.

 

[DoctorWhy]

I really hate that neither starter can evolve.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

I really hate that neither starter can evolve.

Same here...
It also feels strange that they lock more than half of the starter's (Eevee) evolutions out of the game.

 

[Envoy]

Same here...
It also feels strange that they lock more than half of the starter's (Eevee) evolutions out of the game.

They’ve already confirmed that you can find wild Pikachu and Eevee in the game and those will be able to evolve.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

They’ve already confirmed that you can find wild Pikachu and Eevee in the game and those will be able to evolve.

But the Eeveelutions introduced Generation 2 onwards cannot be obtained.

 

[Envoy]

But the Eeveelutions introduced Generation 2 onwards cannot be obtained.

Not during the main story, at least. No. Perhaps they’ll be made available in the post-game. Particularly if Pokebank is going to be compatible with LGPE.

 

[Aulos]

Not during the main story, at least. No. Perhaps they’ll be made available in the post-game. Particularly if Pokebank is going to be compatible with LGPE.

That pretty much contradicts what has been confirmed. They even went out of their way to say that the Pokemon that can be brought from Pokemon GO are only the Kanto ones.

 

[Cresselia92]

The starters may not be able to evolve, but at least they have boosted stats to help them pull their weight throughout the game. One of the fears I had seen was that they would become dead weight at some point due to being unable to evolve, since Pikachu’s and Eevee’s stats are waaay below average. Well, now people have less of an incentive to ditch them by the second Gym, as they have stats on par with certain “fully evolved” Pokémon, like pre-Gen 4 Sneasel and Absol.

I wonder if they will get unique abilities as well. I could see Eevee with Protean as a way to reference its multiple evolutions, where instead of permanently evolving into a Pokémon with a unique type, it can change type at will during the match. That would be both cool and fitting.

 

[Silktree]

Abilities haven't been confirmed. A TPCi spokeperson even said that held items and abilities couldn't be discussed at E3, which to me screams "not in these games."

 

[Plubio]

That pretty much contradicts what has been confirmed. They even went out of their way to say that the Pokemon that can be brought from Pokemon GO are only the Kanto ones.

Maybe is Bank compatible or will be in a future, but only with Kanto Pokémon. You can't move Zeraora to SM if you have it banked, for example.

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In other news, seems like Shota Kageyama arranged all the music plus the new songs heard on the game.


View: https://twitter.com/shotakageyama/status/1019868658376425472

 

[badwolf1234]

Still no news about the frickin mystery pokemon #808/new pokemon?

 

[Esserise]

Maybe is Bank compatible or will be in a future, but only with Kanto Pokémon. You can't move Zeraora to SM if you have it banked, for example.

Alternatively, maybe Pokémon Bank remains incompatible with LGPE, and the 2019 game has to import LGPE Pokémon through a separate feature similar to BW’s Relocator or B2W2’s 3DS Link.

Still no news about the frickin mystery pokemon #808/new pokemon?

None yet. I’m not really expecting it for another month or two, but who knows.

 

[Envoy]

That pretty much contradicts what has been confirmed. They even went out of their way to say that the Pokemon that can be brought from Pokemon GO are only the Kanto ones.

They did literally the exact same thing in FRLG. Literally. Word. For. Word. Then the post-game happened.

 

[Esserise]

They did literally the exact same thing in FRLG. Literally. Word. For. Word. Then the post-game happened.

Those were very different circumstances, however. FRLG existed in large part because of the fundamental inability to transfer from the Game Boy Color to the Game Boy Advance. They needed to make the old Pokémon available in the Gen 3 games somehow (and while they hypothetically could have just shoved them all into RS to begin with, doing so would produce far less revenue for them in the long term), and remaking the original games was a straightforward solution for getting a huge chunk of that work taken care of in one swoop. The remaining Gen 2 Pokémon were divvied up between FRLG and Emerald, and the problem was solved - all of the Pokémon that existed at the time were available on the Game Boy Advance.

There’s not really that same motivation for them here. LGPE exist not to patch a break in the series, but are instead a sort of frivolous side-venture that is simply meant to appeal to people who play Pokémon GO. They’re a nonessential nostalgia trip right down to the bone. They could just as well not exist, and the only thing that would change is that we wouldn’t have anything to keep us occupied until the 2019 game. And even if there does turn out to be some kind of transferring complication between LGPE and the main series, that isn’t really the same kind of problem as Gen 3 being unable to communicate with Gen 2. As long as the 2019 game can still work with Pokémon Bank, the Pokémon that exist currently will all still be available.

Furthermore, it’s safer for them to be more conservative here. If LGPE feature only the original 151 and bomb, then it’s no real harm done. They can write them off an an experimental spin-off and never speak of them again while everyone moves on to the “real” 2019 game. But if LGPE stick to just the original 151 and prove to be a success, then they can continue to build on them as an ongoing series, in which case, they’ll probably want to roll out the additions of Gen 2+ Pokémon in increments, just as Pokémon GO has done, in order to keep people coming back. But if they’ve already added some of the future Pokémon into LGPE, then they’ve preemptively weakened one of the potential draws of further Let’s Go games.

We really shouldn’t assume that their motives in methods in 2018 are the same as they were back in 2003.

 

[KiranTheWitch]

I mean, it has been 15 years since FRLG

 

[Midorikawa]

The starters may not be able to evolve, but at least they have boosted stats to help them pull their weight throughout the game. One of the fears I had seen was that they would become dead weight at some point due to being unable to evolve, since Pikachu’s and Eevee’s stats are waaay below average. Well, now people have less of an incentive to ditch them by the second Gym, as they have stats on par with certain “fully evolved” Pokémon, like pre-Gen 4 Sneasel and Absol.

I wonder if they will get unique abilities as well. I could see Eevee with Protean as a way to reference its multiple evolutions, where instead of permanently evolving into a Pokémon with a unique type, it can change type at will during the match. That would be both cool and fitting.

That would be cool. Though I would be happy with an expanded move set since for a normal type, eevee kind of has a sucky move set. A lot of other normal types are better with the ability to learn moves of other types. Eevee doesn’t learn any that are damage dealing except bite...which is really only useful against Sabrina.

 

[Rocket Zigzagoon]

Same here...
It also feels strange that they lock more than half of the starter's (Eevee) evolutions out of the game.

Probably due to that heart-tailed female Eevee option. Game Freak would be in pain if they bring this gender difference from LGPE to Gen 8 and had to redesign the Eeveelutions.

However, the (reliable) Japanese sites already said that the heart-tailed female Eevee will stay in LGPE (making it a Spiky-Eared Pichu or Cosplay Pikachu of LGPE) and the other female Eevee (found in the other ways like in wild) will have no differences from male counterparts.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

Probably due to that heart-tailed female Eevee option. Game Freak would be in pain if they bring this gender difference from LGPE to Gen 8 and had to redesign the Eeveelutions.

However, the (reliable) Japanese sites already said that the heart-tailed female Eevee will stay in LGPE (making it a Spiky-Eared Pichu or Cosplay Pikachu of LGPE) and the other female Eevee (found in the other ways like in wild) will have no differences from male counterparts.

And even if they had to redesign the eeveelutions it isn’t some Herculean task. All Raichu has for a gender difference is a non-pointy tail.

Your explanation also does not explain the fact that Flareon, Vaporeon and Jolteon are obtainable but not the later eeveelutions (which was my point with that post).