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  1. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    While it seems pretty confirmed that the R1 matches will be 3v3, I'm actually leaning towards R2 being 6v6. My reason being that it will only consist of two battles, one of them being an unimportant match between Leon and Lance/Diantha, which will most likely be heavily abridged if the Alain...
  2. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Well, obviously Iris and Alain are jobbing in round one, but I'm curious whether they'll immediately run home in shame or stick around to interact with Ash, joining Gou in the stands to root for him. I can imagine an increasing pool of cheerleaders forming as more and more of Ash's friends come...
  3. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    I think it's a nice touch that Ash is the only one using Z-moves. Everyone and their grandma manages to get access to mega evolution, but outside of Alola, Z-moves feel like Ash's unique trademark as the Alola Champion. Alola is a relatively small and quaint region, so most high-profile trainers...
  4. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Growing up in a more competitive region would make the trainers and coordinators there more talented as a result. In real life, Japanese VGC players are considered leagues above western ones because of how much harder they have to work to make the top cut. Mirroring that, a record low of 64...
  5. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    It's definitely a matter of perspective, but I'm of the opinion that Ash's growth in AG and especially DP is self evident. If the challenges Ash faces increase at a similar rate to his own improvement, it can create the illusion that he's not actually getting stronger (see the power creep of...
  6. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    I personally like the idea of Ash's rivals keeping up with him offscreen. Gary was already a prodigy, so it's really no stretch for him to get stronger despite shifting focus. Not to mention, studying Pokemon and expanding your knowledge should go a long way in improving your battling skills...
  7. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Strongest in Unova, but also 7th strongest in the entire world. Even if you consider the possibility that some E4 members and gym leaders are sitting the PWC out, there's still 92 trainers in the Ultra Class that are basically E4 tier. BW Iris to Unova champion, and then super class to masters...
  8. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Even with a time skip, it doesn't make sense for Iris to randomly skyrocket ahead of nearly every powerful trainer in universe. If everyone really is in a hyperbolic time chamber, characters should be powering up at essentially the same rate anyway, leaving Iris as still relatively weak. Her...
  9. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    In my opinion, Ash has been getting progressively flanderized since BW. Up until DP he acted like a regular kid, with some immature tendencies, but with genuine empathy. For instance, he is able to recognize Dawn's inner turmoil during her depression arc despite her trying to hide it, and was...
  10. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    That's one correlation, but another one would be that these group shots have always shown every revealed PWC contestant who outranks Ash. Alain has only been absent from them because they didn't want to spoil his reveal. On that note, why be so secretive about the remaining Masters 8 members if...
  11. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Including Alain only to not have him rematch Ash would be showing genuine spite towards XY fans. It would be a hilarious troll, but way too unlikely.
  12. Beatsy Ray

    SPOILERS: Masters Eight Discussion/Speculation Thread

    Greninja and Infernape are the two Ash mons that got dedicated episodes, so I think there's a decent chance both will return. My prediction/hope for gimmicks are Incineroar and Greninja for Alain (Z move + AshGren), Gengar for Cynthia (Gmax), and Lucario for Leon (Mega). Game Freak all but...
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