Infernape was struggling against Volkner's Luxray and needed Blaze to secure the W. It went through Paul's Ninjask & Aggron but couldn't defeat big bad Electivire without Electivire stopping the referee Blaze activating.
Greninja used Battle Bond multiple times. Didn't it struggle in it's base...
Sceptile had HELP,it was a GROUP EFFORT taking down that Darkrai. Dream Eater recovers a pokemon's health but not ALL of it, plus it did not use Dream Eater after it took damage from Gible's Rock Smash. With no BS involved if Ash were to bring out Charizard as his first pokemon vs Tobias's...
I'm inclined to believe that Charizard using any of the powerups (Blaze/Bond Phenomenon/Gigantamax/Z-Move/Mega Evolution) would've had a higher ceiling due to it's feats in OS-AG and the special training from Charicific Valley.
If we're going strictly with a tier system then yeah they're around the same level at least for their base.
Charizard was going through nonstop training at Charicific Valley but the writers put a stop to that in late BW so it's limited to whatever is available at Oak's Ranch.
This was the...
As of JN Episode 108 the frog appears to have gotten stronger,Lucario had to use Mega Evolution while Greninja wasn't even using Battle Bond.When Infernape returned it went through a gauntlet of Ash's fire types on Professor Oak's Ranch.
It's not confirmed if Infernape defeated Charizard 1 on 1...
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