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Yeah thats true. I should have worded it better and should have said: Compared to Torterra and Infernape. Especially early on when Turtwig was just a Turtwig and Grotle. When it became a Torterra, it was treated the worst out of the tree. Piplup wasn't that annoying either, especially compared...

Except in the 2 generations and the current one, the Water Starter actually was the most popular in its run, especially in Japan Gen 6 had Greninja Gen 7 had Primarina as the most popular gen 7 FE starter, ranking at spot 3 in a popularity poll. Then we have Inteleon in the most recent gen, who...