- Sep 23, 2013
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These kinds of lectures don't really do much to solve the problems in the electoral system which cause Republicans to take power, though, do they? It's not "leftists" who don't want to vote for Democrats - and they shouldn't, because Democrats have no more interest in pursuing the political goals of the left than Republicans - it's voter suppression, it's gerrymandering, it's voter intimidation and disenfranchisement. If you want specifically to keep the Republicans out of power, then focusing on mitigating these issues is what you want to be doing, not wagging your finger at leftists, who have not made up a significant voting bloc in the United States since the early 20th Century.
"Democrats have no more interest in pursuing the political goals of the left than Republicans".
This is a take I can not understand at all. I thought Leftists care about LGBT rights, women's rights, taxation on the rich. The Republicans, when in power, go on full-scale attack against all of these. Whereas, when Democrats are in power, they at best further these causes, at worst prevent them from getting worse. Thus, it very much should be in the interests of leftists to keep Democrats in power and keep Republicans out of power.
Not because Democrats are great. They aren't - they should be pushing hard for these causes. But over the top of that, the Republican party is a detriment to these causes. Like not just casually against them, but all-out against them. Proud of it. and attacking them every single chance they are given. With the full force of the Supreme Court they stacked because people couldn't get out and vote for Clinton in 2016. Letting the Republicans win just makes it more miserable for those of us who are effected by these things, and you have to understand it can make us a little bitter at the leftists who act like these differences between the Republicans and Democrats are so minor that they're all the same. My rights and the rights of others are not so minor.
As for your other point, yes, it is very true that voter suppression and the like is playing a role here. But even through all of that Biden won last year. I can't claim it to be as such on a large scale, but nearly every leftist I know who had been stubborn in the 2016 election got out and voted in the 2020 election. It's natural for me to draw a bit of a conclusion that they made a difference.
I get being frustrated with the inaction of the Democrats (as I often am), but I don't get saying that both parties are the same.
What infuriates me most is that all of this was obvious at the time, and so many people flat out refused to acknowledge it. I keep thinking of all the times I watched (mostly female) Clinton supporters screaming about the importance of the Supreme Court, only for supposed progressives to tell them they were being "dramatic" and "hysterical" or accuse them of "emotional blackmail", whatever the fuck that means.
As for who's to blame, that's easy: everyone who did not vote for Clinton, everyone who willingly chose not to do the only thing that would have prevented this disaster.
It is weird that the fate of the Supreme Court doesn't motivate the liberals and the left like it does the right. It is so darn bizarre.