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American Politics Thread

Aulos

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Well, I’ll be hitting the eject button in Alabama soon, but IDK if North Carolina is what you’re looking for.

Aw, yeah, I don't trust North Carolina either. I've got to move to a blue state. Somehow. For a while I considered moving to Michigan, but sadly it can't be trusted either. =/ Things are getting too crazy.
 

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Aw, yeah, I don't trust North Carolina either. I've got to move to a blue state. Somehow. For a while I considered moving to Michigan, but sadly it can't be trusted either. =/ Things are getting too crazy.
NC still might be a good long-term bet; it's trending blue, albeit at a snail's pace. Sure, it's gone Republican in the last 3 Presidential elections, but Democrats consistently win at the state level. (They currently hold the governor, secretary of state, attorney general, and auditor offices, as well as a majority on the state supreme court)

But I totally understand if you don't feel like waiting it out. Red states and purple states under GOP control are all going off the rails.
 

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This story is getting buried under more recent headlines, but the implications are huge. If a judge rules these books obscene, it means they can’t be sold or owned. And the floodgates open.
 

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The GOP in Texas have released their new platform.

If you're a Republican and live in Texas, then this is what you're supporting by voting for them. Some highlights:

  • Repealing 14th, 16th, and 17th Amendments (line 126-129)
  • Repeal the Equal Rights Amendment (line 177)
  • Disband the EPA and repeal the Endangered Species Act (line 240)
  • Abolish business/professional licensing and remove educational requirements from the bar exam (line 287-290)
  • Repeal all minimum wage and prevailing wage laws (line 298)
  • Repeal the Lacey Act (line 301)
  • Repeal mandatory sick/family leave (line 313)
  • Abolish the Federal Reserve (line 531)
  • Abolish sex ed at all grade levels and all schools (line 566)
  • Abolish the Department of Education (line 648)
  • Shutter mental health institutions and abolish all welfare programs of any kind (line 763-767)
  • "Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin" (line 800)
  • Repeal all hate crime statutes (line 1054)
  • "We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and sexual behavior between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin." (line 1165)
  • Repeal Obergfell v. Hodges (line 1191)
  • Repeal the Voting Rights Act (line 1401)
  • Abolish H1-B visa programs (line 1498)
  • Entirely withdraw from the United Nations (line 1561)
  • "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States." (line 1586)
And the finishing touch:

"Texas retains the right to secede from the United States" (line 201) and "we urge the Texas Legislature to pass a bill in its next session requiring a referendum in the 2023 general election for the people of Texas to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation." (line 1280)
 

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The GOP in Texas have released their new platform.

If you're a Republican and live in Texas, then this is what you're supporting by voting for them. Some highlights:

  • Repealing 14th, 16th, and 17th Amendments (line 126-129)
  • Repeal the Equal Rights Amendment (line 177)
  • Disband the EPA and repeal the Endangered Species Act (line 240)
  • Abolish business/professional licensing and remove educational requirements from the bar exam (line 287-290)
  • Repeal all minimum wage and prevailing wage laws (line 298)
  • Repeal the Lacey Act (line 301)
  • Repeal mandatory sick/family leave (line 313)
  • Abolish the Federal Reserve (line 531)
  • Abolish sex ed at all grade levels and all schools (line 566)
  • Abolish the Department of Education (line 648)
  • Shutter mental health institutions and abolish all welfare programs of any kind (line 763-767)
  • "Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin" (line 800)
  • Repeal all hate crime statutes (line 1054)
  • "We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and sexual behavior between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin." (line 1165)
  • Repeal Obergfell v. Hodges (line 1191)
  • Repeal the Voting Rights Act (line 1401)
  • Abolish H1-B visa programs (line 1498)
  • Entirely withdraw from the United Nations (line 1561)
  • "We reject the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and we hold that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States." (line 1586)
And the finishing touch:

"Texas retains the right to secede from the United States" (line 201) and "we urge the Texas Legislature to pass a bill in its next session requiring a referendum in the 2023 general election for the people of Texas to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation." (line 1280)
Thinking about the time Rosie O’Donnell said radical Christianity was just as big a threat as radical Islam, and was universally mocked for it. I think she’s owed a few apologies now.

If they really want to run it back to 1861, go ahead. It’ll end the same way it did last time.
 

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She was mocked for saying that? sigh Have people read history? A Christian theocracy can be every bit as vile as an Islamic theocracy. The Bible is from an even earlier time than the Qur'an and has many, many barbaric rules in it, and the history of Christian theocracies in the middle ages... well, it speaks for itself.

The US was explicitly founded to be neutral on religion, to leave religion out of the state and to leave the state out of religion. Sadly, the US government has tilted toward only doing the latter, which is having devastating consequences on us all. The religious right has succeeded in creating a false, alternative narrative of the founding of the US where the founding fathers founded a Christian nation. It's so absurd. We have the true information right at our fingertips, yet so much of the country believes lies.

As for Texas, SMH. Texas has made me shake my head so many times.
 

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As an adamant atheist, the very idea of any sort of theocracy makes me sick to my stomach. Want to live in a country ruled entirely by religious fundamentalists? You shouldn't, because history has proven time and time again that it's a terrible idea!
 

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Is this a good development or not?
It's bad news, but you wouldn't know that from that heavily biased Fox News report. Reminder, they keep hosting The Big Lie proponents like Tucker Carlson. So here's a Non-Faux News link:

The governor of New York, a Democrat, said the ruling was “not just reckless, it’s reprehensible”. Pointing to recent mass shootings in New York and Texas, a leading progressive group called the ruling “shameful and outrageous”.

Joe Biden said: “This ruling contradicts both common sense and the constitution and should deeply trouble us all.”

Biden pointed to the longevity of New York gun laws and to past supreme court acceptance of the need to regulate gun ownership.

The president said: “Since 1911, the state of New York has required individuals who would like to carry a concealed weapon in public to show a need to do so for the purpose of self defense and to require a license. More than a century later, the United States supreme court has chosen to strike down New York’s long-established authority to protect its citizens.”

Biden added: “As the late [conservative] Justice [Antonin] Scalia recognised, the second amendment is not absolute. For centuries, states have regulated who may purchase or possess weapons, the types of weapons they may use and the places they may carry those weapons. The courts have upheld these regulations.

“I call on Americans across the country to make their voices heard on gun safety. Lives are on the line.”

The ruling has profound implications for the safety and conduct of up to 83 million people in New York and seven other states plus Washington DC with similar “proper cause” laws. They include heavily populated states, such as California and New Jersey, which account for roughly three out of every four Americans.

Just weeks ago, an 18-year-old carrying a legally bought assault-style rifle shot and killed 10 people in a racist attack on a supermarket in a majority Black neighborhood in Buffalo, New York.

Ten days later, another 18-year-old broke into an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, and killed 19 children and two adults before being shot dead by law enforcement.

In his dissent to the New York ruling, Stephen Breyer, a liberal justice soon to retire, wrote: “In 2020, 45,222 Americans were killed by firearms. Since the start of this year there have been 277 reported mass shootings – an average of more than one per day.

“Gun violence has now surpassed motor vehicle crashes as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents. Many states have tried to address some of the dangers of gun violence just described by passing laws that limit, in various ways, who may purchase, carry, or use firearms of different kinds.

“The court today severely burdens states’ efforts to do so.”





Of course, "tradition" suddenly doesn't matter, if Thomas doesn't like it.

 
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Roe v Wade was officially struck down by the Supreme Court. Apparently, "It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives." Of course, the conservative judges don't think that guns should be regulated by elected representatives too. Consistency was never their strongest point.

Anyway, Thomas is already threatening to strip Americans of even more rights:


 

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There was a point when the Republican party was autarkist for it's own sake. Now, autarky is merely a vector for localized Christian theocracy.

America is going to wind up with multiple versions of Chechnya or Aceh, just Christian.
 

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There was a point when the Republican party was autarkist for it's own sake. Now, autarky is merely a vector for localized Christian theocracy.

America is going to wind up with multiple versions of Chechnya or Aceh, just Christian.
The good news is that the vast majority of Americans support preserving the right to abortion.

Even the most aggressive gerrymandering will not be able to stop the incoming blue wave.

 

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This will become a byword for electoral suicide.

Inevitably roe is going to be reinstated. My fear is that kicks of a wave of y'all qaeda deciding to mimic, well, al-Qaeda
 

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Hopefully, today's decision will rally people that are against this decision to vote come November.
 
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This is clearly a functioning system. Nothing wrong here, for sure.

That was sarcastic.
 
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