American Politics Thread

[Volphied]

Also, I just wanna point out, as horrible as he is, celebrating this might not be a good idea because karma could easily come back for us, bite us in the ass, and force us to be stuck with him for 4 more years if he recovers, or even get stuck with 4 years of Pence.

Nah, I don't think he'll get any "sympathy votes" from this. He might have had he taken this pandemic seriously since the start, but now his fanbase/cult will only see him as the loser who got the hoax China flu. Nobody who hated Trump will vote for him out of sympathy, and his most over-zealous fanatical worshipers will hate him for admitting covid is real.

I do, however want Trump to survive just so that he can see himself lose the election to Biden.

EDIT: Here's the October surprise:


View: https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/1311902557925715969

 

[indigohex3]

I personally think that after the news came out about Trump, we should be looking at the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution, in which Mike Pence (a Republican) will become President and Nancy Pelosi (a Democrat) will be Vice-President if Trump is unable to conduct his duties as POTUS. But it may not look like this arrangement will be long as there is an election coming up and if push comes to shove, Pence would choose a different person during the election. I am being hypothetical here, and Trump may recover in time to contest the election in around a month's time (emphasis on may).

I just want to make a comment, and that is it's not looking good for Trump. Here are some points I wish to bring up that could complicate things for Trump in regards to coronavirus (which I mentioned in a different forum):
1) He is overweight for his height (110 kilograms or 243 pounds for you Americans out there)
2) He has high cholesterol
3) He is 74 years old and 8 out of every 10 deaths in the United States of America that has been attributed to coronavirus has been over 65 at time of death.

There has also been mention that in the recent Presidential debate, Joe Biden was not too far from Donald Trump, and there could be a possibility that Biden (who is older than Trump) could have got coronavirus during the debate, so I think Biden should get tested as a precaution for the same reason highlighted in point 3 above.

It's kind of ironic that Donald Trump once called coronavirus a hoax and now he has it, it reminds me of an article on The Straits Times that I put up in my blog (which will be updated later on tonight) of a young Texan who thought coronavirus was a hoax and died from it in the end.

 

[Volphied]

View: https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1311923016620748802

 

[Aulos]

I'm just utterly shocked he didn't catch it before now. You know when the plague hit in the middle ages, the royalty all realized it was a horrible thing that could effect them, too, and all fled to houses in the country. It didn't work too well for them, but they at least tried. Meanwhile, Trump doesn't wear a mask, calls it a hoax, is constantly around other people from all over, puts together large gatherings and somehow he didn't catch COVID until now?

 

[Esserise]

Also, I just wanna point out, as horrible as he is, celebrating this might not be a good idea because karma could easily come back for us, bite us in the ass, and force us to be stuck with him for 4 more years if he recovers, or even get stuck with 4 years of Pence.

I mean... those were clear possibilities even before now. What you've described would just be us moving back to Square 1. Meanwhile, Trump catching COVID and potentially croaking from it actually increases the chance that those possibilities won't come to pass, to at least some degree.

Anyway, I'm not going to feign concern for a racist sexual predator who steals children from their parents and locks them in cages, and whose willful negligence in handling this disease with the severity it requires has resulted in tens of thousands of preventable deaths, and whose steps to remove restrictions and regulations on environmentally damaging institutions has hastened the literal apocalypse.

 

[Aulos]

^He's also a proud sexual assaulter. One who boasted about it on tape, saying he could get away with it because of his fame and power. In another interview, he boasted about walking into the women's dressing rooms at his pageants to check them out naked.

He is a nasty, nasty man. However, I'd much rather him live to be put in jail and pay for his crimes and sins for the rest of his life. Be held accountable for once in his life.

 

[Esserise]

^He's also a proud sexual assaulter. One who boasted about it on tape, saying he could get away with it because of his fame and power. In another interview, he boasted about walking into the women's dressing rooms at his pageants to check them out naked.

Honestly if we start tacking on also's we're gonna be at this all week. Believe me, there's a mountain of other stuff I wanted to mention in that post (hi, "abandoning hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico to its own devices"), but I had to keep it succinct for readability.

However, I'd much rather him live to be put in jail and pay for his crimes and sins for the rest of his life. Be held accountable for once in his life.

So would I, but that also requires a faith in the US criminal justice system that I simply don't have.

 

[Aulos]

Honestly if we start tacking on also's we're gonna be at this all week. Believe me, there's a mountain of other stuff I wanted to mention in that post (hi, "abandoning hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico to its own devices"), but I had to keep it succinct for readability.

I bring it up because for me it's always been on the forefront. If nothing else had sunk him in the 2016 election that darn well should have. Many of his evangelical and otherwise supporters are always all up in arms about the (very false) alleged threat to the safety of women and children for transgender women to use women's restrooms and dressing rooms. Yet, when they see a man who wanders into women's dressing rooms and checks out the naked women, and boasts about it, they don't care, call him "flawed but forgiven" (which is not a courtesy they would ever ever ever give to someone like Pete Buttigieg, despite Buttigieg's only 'sin' being him being homosexual, which has never done any actual harm to anyone and never will), and then act like he's God's chosen, the messiah.

Sorry, that's more a rant on the culture in general.

There are so many angles with this, but at the end of the day, this showed us exactly how disgusting and depraved Trump's character really is. He should be locked in jail for this alone. While I always thought Trump was horrible before this, this being revealed as the real moral event horizon for me.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Apparently he's already experiencing mild symptoms. Its also been confirmed that Joe Biden and his wife have tested negative.

 

[zoroarctic]

OK, this is too unreal.


View: https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1312064783533965313?s=20

 

[Volphied]

Apparently he's already experiencing mild symptoms. Its also been confirmed that Joe Biden and his wife have tested negative.

View: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1312065485400346625

 

[zoroarctic]

The Supreme Court will hear a case that could destroy what remains of the Voting Rights Act

And Republicans are poised to gain a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.

www.vox.com

I know we’re all focused on other big news right now, but this is just as important.

 

[Volphied]

The Supreme Court will hear a case that could destroy what remains of the Voting Rights Act

And Republicans are poised to gain a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.

www.vox.com

I know we’re all focused on other big news right now, but this is just as important.

It indeed is, but it's right now too early to say if Trump's pick for supreme court will even be voted in so that she can help wreck the VRA. This whole Trump getting Covid-19 is having a huge effect on the government. Even one GOP senator (Mike Lee, UT) has so far been confirmed to be ill, and everyone who met Trump in the past few days is being tested.

Entire Top of the Republican Party Has Been Exposed to COVID

President Trump's campaign schedule has ensured that the top tier of the Republican Party either has contracted or has been exposed to COVID-19.

www.thedailybeast.com

Oh, and Trump himself is starting to show worsening symptoms. There's a high chance now that he's gonna end up being bedridden.


View: https://twitter.com/SVNewsAlerts/status/1312123248172167169

 

[zoroarctic]

I’m trying to be careful with speculation with Trump’s health, but him getting “experimental” drugs makes me feel a little uneasy.

 

[Aulos]

This whole Trump getting Covid-19 is having a huge effect on the government. Even one GOP senator (Mike Lee, UT) has so far been confirmed to be ill, and everyone who met Trump in the past few days is being tested.

Not only that, but I saw that Barrett - Trump's SC nominee - and Mike Lee greeted and talked to each other just a few days ago, meaning that Barrett needs to quarantine.

 

[zoroarctic]

Trump, stricken by COVID-19, flown to military hospital

WASHINGTON (AP) — Stricken by COVID-19, a feverish and fatigued President Donald Trump was flown to a military hospital Friday night where he is being given Remdesivir therapy after being injected with an experimental drug combination in treatment at the White House. In a day of whipsaw events...

apnews.com

This is not a false alarm. This is not a test.

 

[dig]

Please don't 'lmao' at Trump's COVID19 diagnosis. It doesn't matter where you land on the political spectrum, I'm not having people make fun of another human for catching COVID19, with many of us knowing people that have had a hard time with it this year.

It's insensitive to the families, it's disrespectful to the medical staff, and it ends here.

 

[Volphied]

'Karma’s catching up’: New Yorkers not particularly sympathetic to Trump’s positive COVID-19 plight

www.msn.com

“My first reaction is ‘ha!’” said Ravitheja Talla, 25, of Brooklyn. “Given how much he’s downplayed the virus, I found it ironic. He tries to present himself as strong, that’s a big part of what he goes for. But I’m curious what they’ll think of him now that he has the virus.”

“One word to describe it: Good,” said mask-wearing Brooklynite Juliette Beder, 60, as she cleaned up after her Jack Russell terrier. "Of course, I don’t wish harm upon anyone. But the way he flaunted around, and didn’t wear a mask, was so disrespectful to others.”

 

[zoroarctic]

Biden is pulling all of his attack ads. Probably the right thing to do for now.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

You know, what are the chances Trump could try to delay the election, assuming he recovers. Most cases seem to last about 2 weeks, so that's 2 weeks off the campaign trail for him that he'd likely try to get back.