American Politics Thread

[Aulos]

But where would he go? So many countries have closed their borders to us.

Russia?

 

[Ryoma Maser]

Don't worry guys, we might get our first runaway ex-president.

Trump Threatens to ‘Leave the Country’ if He Loses to Biden

“Could you imagine if I lose?” the president asked his rally crowd Friday night. “What am I going to do?”

www.thedailybeast.com

I don't really like talking politics cause I'll usually rant for days, but I would like to say I full on expected this to happen (more like expect to this happen since he hasn't won or lost yet). I actually joke that if he loses he's going to buy some random uninhabited island and leave the U.S. to form his own country, and now this is happening.

My joke might actually happen, holy shit.

 

[Esserise]

Russia?

this but unironically, and I kinda worry about that. He could continue to fire up his base by playing up the role of a President-in-exile who would have won the election were it not for ""voter fraud"" and a conspiracy by his opponents to undermine his legitimacy. Plus, as President he has surely had access to very sensitive information that we prrrrrobably don't want him blabbing to Putin (assuming he hasn't already been giving that stuff away during their secret phone calls, that is).

 

[zoroarctic]

@prog rocker Not sure any LatAm country would take him except maybe Brazil.

@Aulos would he be any use to Russia if he’s not in power?

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Don't worry guys, we might get our first runaway ex-president.

Trump Threatens to ‘Leave the Country’ if He Loses to Biden

“Could you imagine if I lose?” the president asked his rally crowd Friday night. “What am I going to do?”

www.thedailybeast.com

Good! We hate you anyway, Trump. Really would be nice to see.

 

[Aulos]

Good! We hate you anyway, Trump. Really would be nice to see.

While that might seem comforting that he'd be out of the nation, I really, really, really want him to be jailed. The man is so vile. He deserves to be held accountable for his sins.

 

[prog rocker]

While that might seem comforting that he'd be out of the nation, I really, really, really want him to be jailed. The man is so vile. He deserves to be held accountable for his sins.

Sincerely, as someone that had a runaway president, I feel it's your option is better.

 

[Volphied]

Plus, as President he has surely had access to very sensitive information that we prrrrrobably don't want him blabbing to Putin (assuming he hasn't already been giving that stuff away during their secret phone calls, that is).

I'm not sure. I heard that he's unable to pay attention during his intelligence briefings. Trump is notorious for being utterly dumb and uninformed, due to lacking any interest in anything that doesn't mention his name.

For Spy Agencies, Briefing Trump Is a Test of Holding His Attention (Published 2020)

President Trump’s intelligence briefings have gotten renewed attention since he blamed them for failing to sound the alarm early on about the coronavirus.

www.nytimes.com

Mr. Trump, who has mounted a yearslong attack on the intelligence agencies, is particularly difficult to brief on critical national security matters, according to interviews with 10 current and former intelligence officials familiar with his intelligence briefings.

The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult, they said. He has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information. He is unashamed to interrupt intelligence officers and riff based on tips or gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, the retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive.

Mr. Trump rarely absorbs information that he disagrees with or that runs counter to his worldview, the officials said. Briefing him has been so great a challenge compared with his predecessors that the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.

 

[ChocolatePenguin]

I'm a bit confused about something. There have been ads promoting politicians and attacks ads showing their opponents in a negative light, which is nothing new. But this time, they've been one sided. There was an ad for a politician but I've only seen an attack on them once. Another candidate has only gotten attacked.

In short, some candidates have little to no support ads, while others have little to no attack ads. I'd like more information before casting my vote in a couple of weeks.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

I'm a bit confused about something. There have been ads promoting politicians and attacks ads showing their opponents in a negative light, which is nothing new. But this time, they've been one sided. There was an ad for a politician but I've only seen an attack on them once. Another candidate has only gotten attacked.

In short, some candidates have little to no support ads, while others have little to no attack ads. I'd like more information before casting my vote in a couple of weeks.

Personally, I'd say ads are never enough to have a solid opinion on a presidential candidate. While there's some elections where you can see a candidate's behavior/policy and think "Wow, yeah, I don't want that guy with any kind of political power" (especially now, of all times), that should come from at least a reputable news source if not seeing it firsthand rather than from a political attack ad, which would personally benefit from it.

If you ask me, coronavirus is a pretty major issue now, and it's not hard to find examples of Trump being terrible at handling it.


View: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761


Q Explicitly, will you seek to prevent the next round of aid from going to sanctuary states and cities?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, number one, we shouldn’t have to pay anything anyway because all they do is make it very hard for law enforcement. So that’s number one.

But I think, in the bigger picture, I don’t see helping cities and states if they’re going to be sanctuary. Because all sanctuary means to me is it’s protecting a lot of criminals and — and others — many people. But they are — there are criminals. And, you know, you write about it all the time. I see stories every day where somebody is being totally protected. ICE can’t get to them. Law enforcement can’t get to them. You look at law enforcement; law enforcement hates sanctuary cities.



View: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265980172739719170

 

[Dorothy]

While that might seem comforting that he'd be out of the nation, I really, really, really want him to be jailed. The man is so vile. He deserves to be held accountable for his sins.

As someone who still thinks Bush and Cheney should be tried at The Hague, I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

The Republicans are really trying to blow up this BS conspiracy that Hunter Biden sent emails to officials from Burisma, organizing a meeting between them and Joe Biden. Trump is bound to bring it up multiple times during the next disaster of a debate. This is sad. They're scared of losing power.

 

[Proxima Centauri B]

The next debate is gonna be a real shit show. Trump just seems to be getting worse and worse in desperation as the election nears. I dont think I'll be tuning in for that,but Im sure he'll really make a fool of himself.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

The next debate is gonna be a real shit show. Trump just seems to be getting worse and worse in desperation as the election nears. I dont think I'll be tuning in for that,but Im sure he'll really make a fool of himself.

They have confirmed that candidates will have their mics muted so the other can speak. "Candidates will have their microphones muted for portions of the final debate, according to Commission on Presidential Debates" https://twitter.com/i/events/1318356079261044737?s=09

Its still going be be a disaster though. Trump knows he is in a position where he might lose, so he is going to be making some very desperate attempts to sway people away from Joe Biden by making up ridiculous lies, and pushing this ridiculous conspiracy on Hunter Biden.

I'm pretty sure we will see him make an even bigger ass of himself, and probably refuse to condemn QAnon. We'll likely see him attack Joe Biden for wanting to listen to Dr. Fauci also, after Trump called him a disaster.

 

[Charizahe]

I think you might need to get your facts straight on what a "conspiracy" is. Just because what you watch refuses to cover it, does not make something a 'conspiracy'. Lmao.

 

[Volphied]

I think you might need to get your facts straight on what a "conspiracy" is. Just because what you watch refuses to cover it, does not make something a 'conspiracy'. Lmao.

It's a conspiracy because it was entirely invented by Rudy Giuliani, which is why reasonable newspapers refuse to cover it. Hell, even right-wing newspapers were stepping away from Rudy's nonsense. Even the only newspaper who published it had extreme difficulty getting people to sign their name under it.

Even Fox News rejected dubious Hunter Biden exposé: report

The FBI is investigating whether the story is tied to a Russian influence operation, according to multiple reports

www.salon.com

The Post, a sister company of Fox News, published the unverified emails in a Wednesday exposé, which drew widespread blowback for its dubious sourcing. The Times earlier reported that most of The Post article had been written by a staff reporter who refused to allow the tabloid to attach his name to the byline over doubts about the article's credibility.

A number of Post staffers questioned the vetting process for the article and expressed concerns about the sources and the timing as the election nears, The Times reported. Upon publication, other journalists pointed out major errors and holes in article, and the FBI has since opened an investigation into the story as part of a possible Russian disinformation operation, according to multiple reports.

The Times also reported that one of the article's two bylined authors had first learned that her name was on the report after publication; the other writer never previously had a byline at the paper. Both writers formerly worked at Fox News.

So how about you get your facts straight about what Rudy was trying to do before you start accusing others of not reading stuff. Here's a good twitter thread that explains Rudy's crappy conspiracy and how it blew up in his face:

Thread by @thomasafine on Thread Reader App

Thread by @thomasafine: THREAD: How the arrest of Fruman and Parnas destroyed a carefully orchestrated attempt to end Biden's candidacy during the primary debate season. In late 2018, Rudy Giuliani and his team beg...…

threadreaderapp.com

 

[zoroarctic]

View: https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1318598073321459712?s=21

Music to my ears.

 

[omahanime]

I am waiting for one side to say "if you vote for the other side, the sky will fall."

 

[ChocolatePenguin]

Personally, I'd say ads are never enough to have a solid opinion on a presidential candidate. While there's some elections where you can see a candidate's behavior/policy and think "Wow, yeah, I don't want that guy with any kind of political power" (especially now, of all times), that should come from at least a reputable news source if not seeing it firsthand rather than from a political attack ad

I know. That wasn't what confused me. The one sided thing means there's not enough information for me to make a smart decision.

 

[omahanime]

I know. That wasn't what confused me. The one sided thing means there's not enough information for me to make a smart decision.

There is enough info to make a smart decision. Either you are satisfied with what has happened over the last 4 years, and you vote Trump. Or you are dissatisfied with what has happened over the last 4 years, and you vote Biden.