American Politics Thread

[Volphied]

"Free money from the Feds" is a bad thing imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not when you're starving. This money is meant to help the impoverished.

 

[Chevywolf30]

Not when you're starving. This money is meant to help the impoverished.

There's other sources besides the government.

 

[zoroarctic]

"Free money from the Feds" is a bad thing imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're going to have to elaborate there.

 

[Volphied]

There's other sources besides the government.

The GOP isn't interested in offering other sources. That's why the Feds had to intervene.

You're going to have to elaborate there.

"Feds" is a swear word among some people, unfortunately. I blame decades of GOP propaganda, starting with Reagan (who, though he ironically was part of the Fed during his presidency, nevertheless did his best to undermine faith in the government)

 

[Chevywolf30]

You're going to have to elaborate there.

Not a fan of big government.
I'm conservative but not really Republican, I support whoever I feel is upholding American values the best.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

Not a fan of big government.

That's not really elaborating, just rephrasing your earlier statement.

 

[Chevywolf30]

That's not really elaborating, just rephrasing your earlier statement.

You didn't quote my whole post but ok:
I don't think the government should ever give out money for any reason besides a national emergency.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

You didn't quote my whole post but ok:

Exactly how is this clarifying any further?

I'm conservative but not really Republican, I support whoever I feel is upholding American values the best.

You describe yourself relative to groups and talked about "American values" without defining what they are. That doesn't explain anything about your positions.

I don't think the government should ever give out money for any reason besides a national emergency.

This is a great clarification, because it clearly explains your reasoning for why you think this is bad. But why don't you consider covid a national emergency?

 

[Chevywolf30]

I do consider covid an emergency. I also think that the government should be focusing more on helping reopen and thus create jobs than paying people to sit at home.

 

[Volphied]

I do consider covid an emergency. I also think that the government should be focusing more on helping reopen and thus create jobs than paying people to sit at home.

But they aren't sitting at home because they like it, or want it. To quote from my previous comment:

"I don't know why these governors thought you could just flip a switch and suddenly every business was going to get up and running and every worker back to a job," she said. "It's still going to take a while to get people back to work.

You can "focus on reopening" all you want, but it's still gonna take a lot of time for that to happen. Until then, people need some money to survive. So it makes no sense to punish already struggling people by denying them unemployment benefits.

I don't think the government should ever give out money for any reason besides a national emergency.

Does this also extend to oil and gas subsidies? Or farmer subsidies? Or the ridiculous ammount of money and military hardware given away to cops? All things that Red States are known to have accepted from "the Feds" for many decades now?

It's always generous socialism for the rich, crushing capitalism for the poor.

 

[Volphied]

Liz Cheney just got the boot for refusing to repeat Trump's Big Lie.

Liz Cheney is removed from GOP leadership for telling the truth

House Republicans could no longer countenance her defense of democracy.

www.motherjones.com

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

I never wanna hear another Republican bitch about "cancel culture" again after they just proved how hypocritical they are YET AGAIN. They LITERALLY just voted to cancel Liz Cheney because she chose truth over Trump. You would have thought more opened their eyes on January 6th. Some of them even made me think during Biden's confirmations that maybe they realized Trump is not the way forward, but very quickly they've proved me wrong. The GOP is dead. This is a cult dedicated to Trump.

 

[zoroarctic]

I’m actually surprised to see Republicans go this route. I was expecting them to repeat their 2009 strategy of pretending they never liked or supported Bush.

 

[swiftgallade46]

I do consider covid an emergency. I also think that the government should be focusing more on helping reopen and thus create jobs than paying people to sit at home.

What the government should do is focus on regulating jobs so that they have pay a living wage instead of expecting people to work just because capitalism told them to.

cancel culture is very spooky. if you yourself are using it, it's not very good. discussions could be had instead of people getting swept up in anger. it would be better if we ignored the terrible arguments (if you want to), and focus on making things happen and good discussions to make everyone okay-ish with things happening even if they disagree.
join us liberal libertarians, there's like five of us in the world probably

I don’t necessarily disagree, but from my experience the people who are complaining about “cancel culture” (not you, but people I’ve seen on Twitter, etc.), are people who are being held accountable for saying or doing genuinely insensitive things.

 

[prog rocker]

I don’t necessarily disagree, but from my experience the people who are complaining about “cancel culture” (not you, but people I’ve seen on Twitter, etc.), are people who are being held accountable for saying or doing genuinely insensitive things.

Or support people involved in said things.

 

[Volphied]

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." -David Frum

 

[zoroarctic]

Presented without comment.

 

[Aulos]

cancel culture is very spooky. if you yourself are using it, it's not very good. discussions could be had instead of people getting swept up in anger. it would be better if we ignored the terrible arguments (if you want to), and focus on making things happen and good discussions to make everyone okay-ish with things happening even if they disagree.
join us liberal libertarians, there's like five of us in the world probably

At this point, I see "cancel culture" as another useless conservative buzzword. I mean when they went and acted like what happened with Mr. Potato Head (the general brand name was changed, that's it. Mr Potato Head is still Mr. Potato Head, and the product is still in full circulation without any restrictions toward anyone) was "cancel culture". As I said, it's just a buzzword.

Conservatives also love to fail to realize how much they cancelled Colin Kaepernick. He was "cancelled" in the fullest meaning of the sense, and it was by whiny conservatives who were so offended by him kneeling during the national anthem.

If there is any such valid concern behind this buzzword, it clearly isn't a problem exclusive to the left.

 

[zoroarctic]

So much for big tech “censoring” conservatives.

 

[Chevywolf30]

So much for big tech “censoring” conservatives.

Good to hear.