American Politics Thread

[Volphied]

A 10-year-old was forced to cross state lines for an abortion after Ohio's ban went into place. The Indiana doctor who helped her will soon be unable to assist others.

As Ohio outlawed abortions after six weeks, doctors in neighboring Indiana described an influx of patients from out-of-state seeking the procedure, including a pregnant 10-year-old.

www.businessinsider.com

This is the future conservatives want. 10-year olds forced to give birth. Remember this the next time you hear MAGA nutjobs frothing about hidden pedo cults. Every accusation is a confession.

 

[zoroarctic]

I don’t think it’s productive to waste time getting mad at a left without any institutional power instead of the actual empowered and ascendant and minoritarian right wing

I think it's always worthwhile to call out civic illiteracy whenever possible. But I've said everything I can on that, so back to business.

A 10-year-old was forced to cross state lines for an abortion after Ohio's ban went into place. The Indiana doctor who helped her will soon be unable to assist others.

As Ohio outlawed abortions after six weeks, doctors in neighboring Indiana described an influx of patients from out-of-state seeking the procedure, including a pregnant 10-year-old.

www.businessinsider.com

This is the future conservatives want. 10-year olds forced to give birth. Remember this the next time you hear MAGA nutjobs frothing about hidden pedo cults. Every accusation is a confession.

They know these things are going to happen, and they're fine with it because they just hate women that much.

 

[Sheep40]

Or are trying to artificially increase the (white straight Christian) population.

Behold the cringe of a thousand Romanians.

 

[Volphied]

Or are trying to artificially increase the (white straight Christian) population.

That's not going to work, since abortion bans happen to affect mostly the lower classes, which disproportionately consist of minorities.

Your average white straight Christian has the money and means to travel out of Red states to get an abortion.

 

[zoroarctic]

That's not going to work, since abortion bans happen to affect mostly the lower classes, which disproportionately consist of minorities.

Your average white straight Christian has the money and means to travel out of Red states to get an abortion.

Some Red state lawmakers have already introduced bills criminalizing that. Plus, you know the GOP will push for a national abortion ban next time they have the presidency and congress, and they may just kill the filibuster to do it.

 

[Kung Fu Ferret]

I wish Biden would label anyone who wants the USA to be a theocracy of any kind as a domestic terrorist. I honestly don't see much of a difference at all between THEIR ideology and that of Al-Qaeda/Taliban etc.

 

[zoroarctic]

I wish Biden would label anyone who wants the USA to be a theocracy of any kind as a domestic terrorist.

Unfortunately, our pearl-clutching media would never let him get away with that.

I honestly don't see much of a difference at all between THEIR ideology and that of Al-Qaeda/Taliban etc.

Because there isn't one. Just look how giddy right-wing media was when the Taliban regained control of Afghanistan last year.

 

[Sheep40]

Only difference is the holy book and the interpretation of Jesus.

Unfortunately, when they inevitably get thrown from power, their tactics will become not the same, but likely more sophisticated. They'yve already demonstrated a mastery of information warfare, makes you wonder what they will do when they inevitably go full crusader.

 

[zoroarctic]

They'yve already demonstrated a mastery of information warfare, makes you wonder what they will do when they inevitably go full crusader.

That's the scariest part. If you're acting on God's will - and these people clearly believe they are - anything becomes justifiable.

 

[Sheep40]

Zerzetzung as a weapon of genocide by way of cyberbullicide was originally something I thought of for my writing projects which basically was real life with VR and alternate history events that ultimately just resulted in our world but with more pointless death and destruction in the process of getting there.

It was supposed to be the edgiest what if possible. It was not supposed to be realistic at all.

On the bright side, that means I might be able to provide a solution to that problem when it appears.

 

[zoroarctic]

Analysis: Why Republicans want to redefine one word in the Constitution — CNN Politics

The US Supreme Court is on a tear remaking the way Americans live.

apple.news

This could be where SCOTUS crosses over into “let them enforce it” territory. (Sorry, I wish there was a better quote I could reference)

 

[Sheep40]

The Georgia guidestones were demolished after being struck by an IED.

Surprising absolutely nobody in this political climate.

 

[Volphied]

GOP Governors are sad that people keep talking about the horrible effect total abortion bans have on raped children:

Ohio Governor Who Denied 10-Year-Old Rape Victim Abortion Is Pretending to Care About Her Amid Backlash

Gov. Mike DeWine's abortion ban forced a child to travel to Indiana for care. Now he's calling her situation "gut-wrenching"--but standing by the law.

jezebel.com

On the same day the Ohio Supreme Court voted to uphold the state’s six-week abortion ban last week, thanks to the US Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade last month, a 10-year-old rape victim in the state was reportedly denied an abortion because she was past six weeks pregnant. She was forced to travel to Indiana to receive abortion care, thanks to Ohio’s ban that lacks rape and incest exceptions.

On Wednesday, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) finally fielded questions about the child’s harrowing story and his own role in subjecting her to such unthinkable trauma. DeWine’s response was about as offensive and brain-wormed as you’d expect from the man who signed this draconian abortion ban into law, in the first place.

“First of all, I have no more information than you do or anybody does, reading in the paper, it came as, you know, from a story out of Indiana from a doctor over there,” DeWine began, immediately unhelpful. He went on to make the story about himself, and his Very Important feelings as “a father and grandfather,” all while doubling down on his support for police and prisons:

“This is a horrible, horrible tragedy for a 10-year-old to be assaulted, for a 10-year-old to be raped. As a father and as a grandfather, it’s just gut-wrenching to even think about it. We have out there, obviously, a rapist. We have someone who is dangerous and we have someone who should be picked up and locked up forever.”

I’ll just say what we’re all thinking: We live in hell.

Guess what, Mike: This story is “gut-wrenching” to every decent person out there, not just self-righteous fathers and grandfathers like you who have wielded their tremendous state power to retraumatize and further violate a literal child rape victim by forcing her to remain pregnant, and nearly forcing her to give birth.

DeWine also took a page from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s (R) playbook of making the devastating impacts of abortion bans on rape victims about why we need more police—you’ll recall that last year, Abbott justified the lack of rape exception in Texas’ six-week abortion ban by claiming he would simply eliminate rape by ramping up policing. Sure, dude! If this is going to be the go-to talking point Republican governors deploy when their abortion bans inevitably lead to more and more rape victims—particularly child rape victims—being denied care, please shoot me from a canon to the moon already, and do so expeditiously.

Because apparently this needs to be said, police have a long history of making rape victims’ lives substantially worse, either by perpetrating sexual and domestic violence themselves, giving cover to abuse victims, generally retraumatizing victims with their dismissiveness and incompetence, or literally criminalizing victims. Cops—the same people who will be enforcing abortion bans by continuing to arrest people for their pregnancy outcomes—are hardly the solution to the impending crisis of child rape victims being forced to birth their rapists’ babies.

Given DeWine’s utterly useless word vomit from Wednesday, you’d think his press secretary, Dan Tierney, would have more to say when he shared a follow-up statement to the Ohio Capital Journal on Friday. He didn’t. “You have access to DeWine’s recent comments on these issues, including that the only information available on the Indiana matter was from Indiana media reports,” Tierney said in an email to the outlet. Is it just me, or does it sound like DeWine’s press secretary is suggesting this is all some attention-seeking stunt from “Indiana media”?

DeWine’s toothless comments come as, last month, Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) admitted his state’s abortion ban, which also lacks a rape exception, could force child rape survivors to carry their rapist’s babies. But, he also effectively refused to do anything about it: “I would prefer a different outcome than that, but that’s not the debate today in Arkansas.”

I’m honestly just exhausted by all the ghoulish, idiotic things anti-abortion politicians have to say about rape victims and abortion at this point—the overtly icky comments, the toxic positivity of calling pregnancy from rape “an opportunity,” and now, from DeWine, total deflection with nodes of copaganda. The fact of the matter is, if anti-abortion politicians cared remotely about rape survivors, they wouldn’t be banning abortion in the first place—with or without exceptions that oft hinge on the off-chance that someone reports their rape to police.

 

[Sheep40]

An acceptable sacrifice to prevent the great replacement

 

[Volphied]

An acceptable sacrifice to prevent the great replacement

Please do mark your comments with a sarcasm tag. There are people who says stuff like this unironically. Even on this forum you can find a few of them.

 

[Sheep40]

Sorry, I believed we didn't have one.

 

[zoroarctic]

Our media really, really wants another Democrat to primary Biden in 2024. It’s getting on my nerves.

 

[Beer&Nyquil]

Our media really, really wants another Democrat to primary Biden in 2024. It’s getting on my nerves.

Can you blame them?

 

[zoroarctic]

Can you blame them?

They’re wasting their time; there’s zero chance of it happening.

 

[Scruffyjay]

Our media really, really wants another Democrat to primary Biden in 2024. It’s getting on my nerves.