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American Presidential Election Thread, 2020 Edition

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A few I could see being huge Trump supporters are Clay, Lt. Surge, Roark, Byron, and you know Giovanni would.

Then a few I think would hate him include Blaine, Lenora, Gardenia, Volkner, Valerie, Candice, and Burgh.
 
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I’d imagine all the Ice, Water and Grass-type leaders would oppose Trump over his (lack of) environmental policy.
 
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The other day I was thinking about how (morbidly) funny it is that Pokémon's version of America has a dusty old white politician (Drayden) adopting a young black girl and using his position to elevate her voice because he believes she represents the future. But then I thought, "Oh god, Drayden is going to turn out to be the reactionary racist uncle you didn't see coming, isn't he?"
Drayden: Iris, I never want you to feel like you need to be silenced because society doesn't want to listen to black women.
Iris: Aww, thanks, grandpa!
Drayden: Why, just look at Candace Owens! See how she's been able to be outspoken about issues important to her?
Iris: WHO

It hurts to admit because I'm a Clay fan, but I feel like Clay would also vote for Trump. He's a wealthy entrepreneur of the mining industry, and the thing he found off-putting about Ghetsis was his careful, elaborate way of speaking. Clay would probably be suspicious of "elite politicians" and think that Trump "tells it like it is."

> Clay: I may not talk purty, but at least I'm an honest man.
Okay that's very accurate but in Clay's defense might I also offer this excerpt from BW2:
And, if ya only go after what ya think is right, ya might end up rejectin' all thoughts and opinions other than yer own. That's mighty dangerous.""Ya ever heard of the Pokémon World Tournament? Trainers from all over the world gather on up to see who's toughest!"

"See what I mean? People are pourin' in already! If the strongest Trainers from all over join in, it'll raise up everybody's level of skill! An' then, li'l ol' Driftveil City will grow even more and make a heap of money! "

So I'd like to suggest Clay at least got into Trump for the everyman, working class angle and then got turned off by the racism. (Although whether that was more because it was wrong or more because it would cut profits at the PWT...)
I think Marlon is quite evidently a centrist who "doesn't like to think about politics" but also thinks that in the interest of "fairness" we should hear both sides out (even if one is a group of violent fascists). I mean, that's already just about explicit within the text in B2W2.
fdsajklfsaklhfsal "You can't just say the bad guy is bad!" is such a funny type of centrist when you don't have to face them and I completely forget that's what Marlon was like
You all trying to put Trump into Pokemon. o_O I suffer enough having Trump in this reality, I most certainly don't want him in any other realities!
It's really funny that you say that because I have this tweet bookmarked:
View: https://twitter.com/MiniatureMooses/status/1284578034507448321
 
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Wouldn't make too much out of that. I'm sure all the outlets have something written up for each possibility. That said, I do think Harris is the favorite; there's too much smoke for there not to be fire at this point.
Harris has now been confirmed as the VP candidate.
 
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Harris has now been confirmed as the VP candidate.
Figures it happens while the site is under maintenance. Also, FiveThirtyEight (finally) released their election forecast model today; it has Biden with a 71% chance of winning in November.
 
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Figures it happens while the site is under maintenance. Also, FiveThirtyEight (finally) released their election forecast model today; it has Biden with a 71% chance of winning in November.
Before anyone starts freaking out about the polls also showing Hillary winning back in 2016:

  • But wait! Should you even trust the polls? Hillary Clinton led in the polls in 2016, right? Yes. But Clinton had only a small advantage in most surveys — Trump’s win was well within the range of normal polling error.
  • As elections analyst Geoffrey Skelley wrote last week, Biden’s lead over Trump has already topped Clinton’s post-convention peak. Biden also enjoys more overall support than Clinton. In other words, there’s a genuine difference between Biden’s position now and Clinton’s four years ago.
 
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71% chance is still way too darn low. I don't know what I'm going to do if we have to deal with another four years of this...
 
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Welp. Kamala Harris is confirmed to be Biden's VP pick. I kinda hoped he didn't pick her. She certainly could bring more energy to this campaign and I think she supports M4A and the Green New Deal, and there's no dount she'll tear Trump and Pence to shreds. We can't ignore her past records on criminal prosecution though, which is a thing that bugs me.
 
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71% chance is still way too darn low. I don't know what I'm going to do if we have to deal with another four years of this...
They’re saying it would be 93% if the election were held today, and the reason the November odds are lower is because of “uncertainties.” If there’s no meaningful change in the polls as the election gets closer, the “uncertainties” will fade and Biden’s chances will go up.
 
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Hate to say this, but it looks like we won’t be able to count on vote-by-mail. Your best bet may be to vote in-person if you can.
 
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Hate to say this, but it looks like we won’t be able to count on vote-by-mail. Your best bet may be to vote in-person if you can.
Him spreading fear and doubt about the USPS is intentional. Voting by mail has worked without any significant issues for primaries so far. Your best bet is still to try to not get infected by COVID and vote by mail.
 
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He doesn't want people to vote, because he knows that a low turnout increases his chances of winning. If there's a high turnout, he's toast, because a significant majority do not like him.
 
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He doesn't want people to vote, because he knows that a low turnout increases his chances of winning. If there's a high turnout, he's toast, because a significant majority do not like him.
Trump's latest attempt to screw over the USPS is already blowing up in the media. Lawsuits are already threatened, since the postal service is actually part of the constitution.

Trump is a colossal moron for even trying this. Voting is only a minor part of what the USPS does. Almost everyone, including Republicans, relies on USPS for many things and will not be happy that they can't, for example, get their social security checks or pay their bills
 
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It’s up to you how you want to vote. I personally wouldn’t risk my ballot not being delivered on time (not that I have a choice, my state only allows in-person voting). If you decide on voting in-person, make sure you take every possible precaution, and vote early if your state allows it.
 
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Mini vent incoming?

Even if the USPS wasn't threatened, I am honestly dreading the election because I have the sinking feeling that Trump is still going to win. I hear a lot of people's grievances with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Now I agree that they're far from great people and have done some really bad things before and that they're not the most progressive out there. It's possible that a Biden administration will keep the status quo and not enact real change that the US desperately needs. But my concern is that people will refuse to go out and vote because the Democratic choice is Biden, which would only secure Trump another four years in office. I'm basically fearing a repeat of what happened during the 2016 election. And month by month, I feel like that fear is growing more real.

...All this on top of a full-blown pandemic and Republicans deliberately trying to suppress votes... As if it didn't need to be made more complicated.

If me wanting the lesser-of-the-two-evils in office makes me a centralist neoliberal, then so be it. I just don't think the US, and the world at large, can survive another four years of the current administration.

I hate to say this but I've already given up at this point.
 
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But my concern is that people will refuse to go out and vote because the Democratic choice is Biden, which would only secure Trump another four years in office.
I'm not convinced that the average American is progressive enough to find the Biden/Harris ticket so offensively establishment that it warrants protesting, and the scandalous narratives around Hillary were a lot more prominent and entrenched in the media than any of the issues I've seen people take with Biden or Harris's records. (I mean, I wish Americans were so progressive as to reject Biden, but hey, right now, if banal centrism that can be worked on later is what it takes to dislodge an imminently destructive fascist, I'll take what I can get.)

My concern is pretty fully on the Republicans' snarling chimera of mail sabotage, polling site closure, gerrymandered districts, voter roll purges, refusal to take precautions against Russian cyber-interference, and so on being unleashed in the middle of a pandemic.
 
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