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Australia plan to implement mandatory internet censorship

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AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to "protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users".

Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Human Rights Watch has condemned internet censorship, and argued to the US Senate "there is a real danger of a Virtual Curtain dividing the internet, much as the Iron Curtain did during the Cold War, because some governments fear the potential of the internet, (and) want to control it"

Groups including the System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it would unfairly restrict Australians' access to the web, slow internet speeds and raise the price of internet access.

EFA board member Colin Jacobs said it would have little effect on illegal internet content, including child pornography, as it would not cover file-sharing networks.

"If the Government would actually come out and say we're only targeting child pornography it would be a different debate," he said.

The technology companies' move, which follows criticism that the companies were assisting censorship of the internet in nations such as China, requires them to narrowly interpret government requests for information or censorship and to fight to minimise cooperation.

The initiative provides a systematic approach to "work together in resisting efforts by governments that seek to enlist companies in acts of censorship and surveillance that violate international standards", the participants said.

In a statement, Yahoo co-founder and chief executive Jerry Yang welcomed the new code of conduct.

"These principles provide a valuable roadmap for companies like Yahoo operating in markets where freedom of expression and privacy are unfairly restricted," he said.

"Yahoo was founded on the belief that promoting access to information can enrich people's lives, and the principles we unveil today reflect our determination that our actions match our values around the world."

Yahoo was thrust into the forefront of the online rights issue after the Californian company helped Chinese police identify cyber dissidents whose supposed crime was expressing their views online.

China exercises strict control over the internet, blocking sites linked to Chinese dissidents, the outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement, the Tibetan government-in-exile and those with information on the 1989 Tiananmen massacre.

A number of US companies, including Microsoft, Cisco, Google and Yahoo, have been hauled before the US Congress in recent years and accused of complicity in building the "Great Firewall of China".

The Australian Christian Lobby, however, has welcomed the proposals.

Managing director Jim Wallace said the measures were needed.

"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said.

Source: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html

Good intentions, but...rather the wrong way of going about it.
 
Yeah. There are certainly things that don't need to exist, period, even on the internet, but with censorship it's so hard to find the proper place to set the line.
 
When people say they want to ban child porn, what they're really saying usually is "I want to ban all pornography, PERIOD. EVER", which I am totally against. Child pornography is already illegal, people are just using it as an umbrella fear tactic excuse to censor anything they don't like. Just more of a grab for power to have total control over the lives of strangers to settle nothing more than a lust for control and to assert their morality and religion on the populace.
 
There's the problem. What's gonna happen when they start going insane and all of a sudden all Thomas The Tank Engine Episodes which featured George Carlin have to be banned due to Carlin's notorious comedy routines?
 
When people say they want to ban child porn, what they're really saying usually is "I want to ban all pornography, PERIOD. EVER", which I am totally against. Child pornography is already illegal, people are just using it as an umbrella fear tactic excuse to censor anything they don't like. Just more of a grab for power to have total control over the lives of strangers to settle nothing more than a lust for control and to assert their morality and religion on the populace.

Please enlighten me on how the Australian goverment is trying to 'assert their religion' on us via mandatory strict internet laws.

As for the topic... re: sig. :embarass:
 
No fair, Australia, I thought Israel was going to be the second to implement this crap!

I suppose we could always be third. Though I can't be too sure, we're getting a new Minister of Communications on February and he might not be an ultra-orthodox jerkface.
 
Oh well, bad for the Australians here... The next thnig that happens would probably be Australia declaring itself communist.
 
Had I been old enough to vote, I would have been backing Rudd. It's strange though, because Howard's been basically the only PM I've known. I welcome the change though, because I believe my life will be better under Rudd.

Ring any bells Æsahættr?

:p

Having said this though, it hasn't been passed yet, and I doubt it'll pass, as I doubt the Coalition will back it.
 
I wasn't refferring to us become Communists ( :lol: at that comment!), just more in general. ;-)
 
I wasn't refferring to us become Communists ( :lol: at that comment!), just more in general. ;-)

Ah ok :)

No, you're right though, can't say I'm pleased with how Rudd's handling this (and a few other things lately.)
 
If the Prohibition in the US has taught anything, it's that if you take something away, it will just get more out of control and become a bigger problem.
 
Peer-to-peer sharing isn't too surprising, considering how much of that traffic is for pirating movies, music, and everything else that CAN be electronically pirated. There's a cable internet company here that's doing (or has done) something similar (I think it's Comcast). Didn't go over well, as I recall.
 
Ben, it would take a complete utter catastrophe for Labor to lose at the next election.

The sooner Conroy leaves the cabinet though, the better for Australia...
 
For your enlightenment, here is a list of words that, if found, cause Chinese internet users to automatically disconnect from the internet.

民主 (democracy)
人權 / 人权 (human rights)
自由 (freedom)
改革 (reform)
選舉 / 选举 (elections)
多黨 / 多党 (multi-party)
平反 (rehabilitate)
獨裁 / 独裁 (dictatorship)
法西斯 (fascism)
專政 / 专政 (dictatorship)
專制 / 专制 (despotism)
反共 (anti-communist)
反黨 / 反党 (anti-party)
反革命 (counterrevolutionary)
反動 / 反动 (reactionary)
反人類 / 反人类 (Crime against humanity)
共匪 (communist bandits)
賣國 / 卖国 (selling out one's country)
叛國 / 叛国 (treason)
漢奸 / 汉奸 (Chinese traitor)
屠殺 / 屠杀 (massacre)
群體滅絕 / 群体灭绝 (genocide)
鎮壓 / 镇压 (oppression)
推翻 (overthrow)
政變 / 政变 (coup)
打倒 ("down with")
維權 / 维权 (Protect rights)
封鎖 / 封锁 (Blocking)
勞教 / 劳教 (Reeducation through labor)
紅色恐佈 / 红色恐怖 (Red Terror)
邪惡 / 邪恶 (evil)
中俄邊界 / 中俄边界 (Sino-Russian border)
六四 (June 4)
天安門事件 / 天安门事件 (Tiananmen Square massacre)
民運 / 民運 (Chinese democracy movement)
文革 (Cultural Revolution)
大躍進 / 大跃进 (Great Leap Forward)
三年自然災害 / 三年自然灾害 (Three Years of Natural Disasters)
疆獨 / 疆独 (Xinjiang independence)
藏強 / 藏独 (Tibetan independence)
流亡 (exile)
達賴 / 达赖 (Dalai Lama)
西藏論壇 / 西藏论坛 (Tibet Talk)
民主 (democracy)
中國民主正義黨 / 中国民主正义党 (Chinese Democracy Justice Party)
民主中國 / 民主中国 (China Democracy)
中國民主同盟 / 中国民主同盟 (China Democratic League)
天安門母親 / 天安门母亲 (Tiananmen Mothers)
華夏文摘 / 华夏文摘 (China News Digest)
多維 / 多维 (Chinese News Net)
自由亞洲 / 自由亚洲 (Radio Free Asia)
美國之音 / 美国之音 (Voice of America)
法輪 / 法轮 (dharma chakra)
法倫 / 法伦 (falun gong)
大法 (dafa, or "Great Law")
弟子 (disciple)
真善忍 (Truthfulness, Compassion, Forbearance)
民進黨 / 民进党 (Democratic Progressive Party)
臺灣團結聯盟 / 台湾团结联盟 (Taiwan Solidarity Union)
中華民國 / 中华民国 (Republic of China)
臺獨 / 台独 (Taiwan independence)
花花公子 (Playboy)
九評共產黨 / 九评共产党 (the book "The Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party")
不為人知的故事 / 不为人知的故事 (the book "Mao: The Unknown Story")
李志綏 / 李志绥 (the book "The Private Life of Chairman Mao")

Now we have Australia here, also wanting to implement Internet censorship. They will likely be banning similar things. Someone said that China may become Communist themselves. Which is possible - but they'd have to slide pretty far. Even the US pulls communist moves sometimes (like with the bailout, even if it was to save pretty much everything else from collapsing).

So I propose to you, the people of Bulbagarden, my douchebaggish but awesome as all hell plan. We all go into MMOs, and say the words that cause an auto-disconnect, effectively disallowing anyone from those countries to get on. Or, put them in a custom title or whatever on a message board, so every topic you post in is blocked to them, and it looks otherwise innocuous (considering you're not stupid...)! We'd basically be saying, "Hey, you want to ban people from internet sites? Fine! They can't come to our site either!" Yeah, I don't know what it would accomplish either (unless a major site picked up on it), but it'd still be good for a laugh if you're the type who loves being a dick. >_> I wouldn't seriously do it of course.

But seriously, there is a fine line between trying to prevent internet crime and overstepping their boundries. From what I've seen in censorship in movies and video games, Australia doesn't exactly take that line seriously. A lot of things that were R/M or even PG13/T were banned solely because of simple things such as drug references. Pretty hard stuff; pun not intended.

Comparatively, the US pretty much only gives the NC-17/AO rating to extreme cases. Any one that tends to get the former doesn't do very well (even if they're acclaimed) due to pressure from conservative groups restricting their being sold or shown at some locales, and it has to be pretty graphic. There's actually been quite a bit As for the latter, it's pretty much limited to games with sexual content like sex scenes. The only ones that have sex that got AO were Thrill Kill and Manhunt 2, off the top of my head, which had ridiculous amounts of graphic violence. But despite that, and all the people still whining about things, North Americans can consider themselves lucky to live in such a free country.
 
It's only gonna be free for so much longer. Glad we didn't get Palin-in-the-ass, though, she'd ban anything that said anything bad against religious wackos like her...

Doesn't everyone find it funny that this is a left-wing party doing this? Sounds pretty right-wing to me. Guess that's the thing about the political spectrum. It's circular.
 
For your enlightenment, here is a list of words that, if found, cause Chinese internet users to automatically disconnect from the internet.


Now we have Australia here, also wanting to implement Internet censorship. They will likely be banning similar things.

Rubbish. Banning the words "democracy" and "freedom" in Australia? :lol:

Someone said that China may become Communist themselves. Which is possible - but they'd have to slide pretty far. Even the US pulls communist moves sometimes (like with the bailout, even if it was to save pretty much everything else from collapsing).

China becoming communist? I'm assuming you mean Australia. Not a hope.

(If not, then your comment doesn't make much sense.)

But seriously, there is a fine line between trying to prevent internet crime and overstepping their boundries. From what I've seen in censorship in movies and video games, Australia doesn't exactly take that line seriously. A lot of things that were R/M or even PG13/T were banned solely because of simple things such as drug references. Pretty hard stuff; pun not intended.

Anything above an Australian MA is refused classification. I have never heard of a PG/T game being above our MA15+. The games that are refused classification get the parts which were objected to removed and then they get released under a revised rating.

Doesn't everyone find it funny that this is a left-wing party doing this? Sounds pretty right-wing to me. Guess that's the thing about the political spectrum. It's circular.

Centre-left. Generally the party that wins the Australian elections moves towards the centre, pushing the other party further towards their end of the political spectrum. At the moment Labor's very close to the centre and it's all the Liberals can do not to keep moving further right.
 
The problem we have with Australian politics is that we haven't really ever had a major party that's been left wing on civil rights. The left-right spectrum is Australia is almost purely economic. Everyone who matters is right wing on civil rights, and it's a pain in the ass. The Liberal Party may move more to the left on civil rights with Malcolm Turnbull in charge however, without straying too far from the path on economic issues. Pity that it'll be several years yet until we can find out if it'll really happen.

What's worrying me now though is what Senator Conroy is saying about filtering BitTorrent. The guy is seriously a loon.
 
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