RustyTrubbish
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Not expecting it to return but it would be a nice surprise if Nintendo turns it into downloaded content at least. That way some people will be pleased.
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I think this is a bit over pessimistic. We can at least expect the original Battle Tower.
Isn't Palmer Barry's dad?
@Esserise IIRC, it wasn’t necessarily the mostly copy-paste Maison and the absence and reference to the Battle Frontier itself that ticked people off. It was how they went about it and the reasoning they gave!
The in-game lore is that the Battle Frontier was under construction. That’s fine by itself, but they talk about it as if it was coming soon. This implied that there would be some sort of update or DLC that would add it later, which would mean that the Maison is largely there as a placeholder andor for compatibility reasons so ORAS players can still do multi-battles with XY players in the post game.
I can agree with that. The only thing I’m arguing is that the way Game Freak went about it only added fuel to the fire.I think the Frontier not being there would have disappointed the people it did regardless of whatever a little sign had to say. People have thrown around all manner of possible excuses and justifications for the Frontier not being there, but it's never assuaged the anger. The sign saying "coming soon" was a bad call, undoubtedly, but I really don't think the reaction would have been much different if it weren't there. People wanted the feature, not a more carefully worded rationalisation for it not being included.
I hated this with a burning passion. If you don't want the Battle Frontier to be in the game, fine, don't (i still think their reasoning for its exclusion was a baseless statement with no evidence to back it up). But don't put a damn tease in the game. It's insulting to me to be aware that people want this, but still not actually give it.The in-game lore is that the Battle Frontier was under construction. That’s fine by itself, but they talk about it as if it was coming soon.
It's for people who are better off replaying Platinum and are being taken for granted, and for kids who don't care.I feel like it could come back. BDSP doesn't feel like it's for casuals (as opposed to Legends). It seems like it's more for people with a vested interest in the franchise. It could very well be the game that they think the hardcore games want.
I feel like it’s far too soon to make either of those claims.It's for people who are better off playing Platinum and are being taken for granted, and for kids who don't care.
I would've rather they just use the original battle tower tower design, integrate it with the island
How about one of the other battle frontier facility designs instead? The Battle Dome or Arena may have worked on the resort as well.I don't think the modern skyscraper look of the Tower would make a lot of sense there. I feel like it'd literally stick out like a sore thumb. Obviously the Maison's not an ideal solution either; if you ask me they should've just invented a new place that fit the aesthetic better. Call it the Battle Spa or something, and play up how it's seen as an even more premier retreat than the hot springs in Lavaridge. And maybe by earning BP, you can pay to apply an extra Flame Body multiplier to the entire area while hatching eggs and a friendship gain multiplier for your party Pokémon (I'm thinking of something akin to Isle Avue, here).
I wouldn't be surprised if they did at one point intend on making it dlc. If I remember correctly dlc on the 3ds was easy to delete and this would screw with Pokemon if they had added new forms or areas, like say you saved in the battle frontier dlc area and deleted the dlc, what happens to your save?@Esserise IIRC, it wasn’t necessarily the mostly copy-paste Maison and the absence and reference to the Battle Frontier itself that ticked people off. It was how they went about it and the reasoning they gave!
The in-game lore is that the Battle Frontier was under construction. That’s fine by itself, but they talk about it as if it was coming soon. This implied that there would be some sort of update or DLC that would add it later, which would mean that the Maison is largely there as a placeholder andor for compatibility reasons so ORAS players can still do multi-battles with XY players in the post game.
However, these “hints” are completely contradictory to what Masuda said during an interview: basically, Game Freak thoughtpeople were too busy to enjoy harder challenges because of other entertainment option, and that they target audience would just get too frustrated and return to smartphones.
Putting aside how I think about that statement as berating to their target audience: if you don’t think that a majority of people will enjoy a specific returning feature, then you shouldn’t be teasing it as if it was actually coming later down the line (the infamous poster stating “The Battle Frontier project has started!” comes off as a middle finger to fans that do like it). References are fine, but I think they should have said in game that “It might take awhile for the Battle Frontier to come, so you might not want to sit around waiting for it.” instead of what ended up happening.
I see what you mean about the Battle Resort as a whole, but I would rather Game Freak be honest about it instead of trolling us like they did and blame smartphones for an unpopular decision.