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Changes to the Pronoun Field

Changes to the Pronoun Field

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Hey everyone! The following change has been made to the pronoun field:
  • The pronoun field is no longer a text field.
This essentially means that instead of it being a text field as it was previously, it's now a drop-down menu that you can select from the following options:

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You can find these under "Account Details" when you click your username on the top-right corner.
 
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Enzap

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Could we please have the option to select more than one entry on the menu?
We wanted it to be as inclusive as possible while still being manageable for us from an administrative perspective. As takoyaki pointed out, we do have combinations available as options now, and if you have other options that you want you are welcome to use the "Please Ask" option or add your pronouns to your usertitle or signature.

If there are specific options or combinations that you would like to see, you're welcome to suggest them. I can't guarantee they will be added but we will at least read and consider any suggestions.
 

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I'd very much like my it/its pronouns back since they're the ones that feel most comfortable to me. I'm personally against having only preset pronoun options, but I do understand the administrative burden of having to deal with jerks who would put stuff like attack/helicopter or whatever. I guess I'll just put mine as Please Ask for now.
 

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I really think you should at least add xe/xem and it/its pronouns on the dropdown list. I find it odd these two were left out, since I did see people had xe/xem listed as their pronouns on here before the change was made to the dropdown menu. I also think none should be included, too, since there are people who don't use any.

I do understand why it was changed to a dropdown menu, in case trolls try to misuse it, or something, but I don't think there needs to be a few more options besides "please ask" for people who might use some other alternatives.
 

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We're currently discussing a checkbox system rather than a drop-down list. However, and we do apologise, but to be honest it is impossible on a practical level to include neopronouns. Don't take my word for it - take a gander for yourself at how many there are. As soon as we include one, the floodgates are going to open on why we didn't include others, and we might as well have gone back to the text field we had before. That said, it may seem rather out of left field how we chose to do this in the first place, so in the interest in transparency, I feel it prudent to explain why.

In short: abuse of the pronoun text field is precisely why we went this route. It's rather difficult to convey this well for those who aren't staff, but we have received report after constant report of profiles incorrectly using the pronoun field. As soon as we receive a report about pronoun field misuse, we have to decipher whether the misuse was intentional, reach out to the user to correct it, and wipe the field ourselves. Some of it came from obvious trolls and bad-faith users, while some were well-meaning users who weren't using the field for what it was supposed to be used for. After bringing up the matter to staff as a whole, it was agreed upon that due to the sheer volume of reports and trying to constantly reach out to different users to explain that they were misusing the field, we'd do away with the text field and go with a drop-down list instead.
 

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There is an annual survey that's been going for almost a decade known as the Gender Census. Its purpose is to collect data from anyone who feels they belong outside of the gender binary, and these results are published to help offer some perspective on how people identify.

This year's results (with nearly 40k submissions) have already been published and they list the most common pronouns used by participants. Maybe it would help to take those into account?
 

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There is an annual survey that's been going for almost a decade known as the Gender Census. Its purpose is to collect data from anyone who feels they belong outside of the gender binary, and these results are published to help offer some perspective on how people identify.

This year's results (with nearly 40k submissions) have already been published and they list the most common pronouns used by participants. Maybe it would help to take those into account?
If I might (my pronouns are he/him), I think there should be a poll to ask this question of the community.
 

LemmaEOF

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but to be honest it is impossible on a practical level to include neopronouns.
it/its...aren't neopronouns, though? they're very much just part of the standard English language. Plus the gender census (linked above) saw it/its reaching up to above 15% this year - there's very clearly a lot of folks who use them.
 

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it/its...aren't neopronouns, though?
No, not that in particular. it/its is probably fine and will likely be added when we revise this.
 

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I miss when it used to be a Latias, Latios or Gardevior icon.
 

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Can we just have a male/female dropdown option for those of us that aren't interested in having a basic grammar lesson as part of our profile information?
 
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