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What was the point of hiding Kukui’s team? I get why he would hide Incineroar from the students, what with his whole Masked Royal charade (we were also never told why he made such a big deal out of that secret and then said “fuck it, Imma fight unmasked”), but how would the rest compromise him in any way? It took us 50 episodes to even find out he has... a Braviary. When did they even eat?

This is made further weird by the fact that his team has types, moves and experience that would definitely teach the students more about pokemon and maybe even directly help developing their own (e.g. Braviary teaching Rowlet Brave Bird, Empoleon using its tides knowledge to aid on Primarina’s bubbles, Lucario teaching Turtonator Dragon Pulse...). I feel like it would have been more logical and satisfying if we had known them before the showdown.
 
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What was the point of hiding Kukui’s team? I get why he would hide Incineroar from the students, what with his whole Masked Royal charade (we were also never told why he made such a big deal out of that secret and then said “fuck it, Imma fight unmasked”), but how would the rest compromise him in any way? It took us 50 episodes to even find out he has... a Braviary. When did they even eat?

This is made further weird by the fact that his team has types, moves and experience that would definitely teach the students more about pokemon and maybe even directly help developing their own (e.g. Braviary teaching Rowlet Brave Bird, Empoleon using its tides knowledge to aid on Primarina’s bubbles, Lucario teaching Turtonator Dragon Pulse...). I feel like it would have been more logical and satisfying if we had known them before the showdown.
Perhaps they had not thought about his team until then.
 
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My guess is that they still wanted to make it more of a surprise in-universe that Professor Kukui was such a strong trainer. Maybe he would have thought that showing off more of his skills would have made it more obvious that he was the Masked Royal even without using Incineroar. Although, I also wondered when his Pokemon would have eaten if they were kept in secret for so long. Professor Kukui fighting unmasked didn't bother me since his identity was already revealed.

It was more strange to me that they didn't quite explain why he had a secret identity in the first place. It does fit more with the whole wrestling vibe they were going for with the Battle Royal, but they didn't really offer an answer. Although, it didn't bother me as much as never explain the whole Blaziken Mask deal from XY.
 
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It was more strange to me that they didn't quite explain why he had a secret identity in the first place. It does fit more with the whole wrestling vibe they were going for with the Battle Royal, but they didn't really offer an answer. Although, it didn't bother me as much as never explain the whole Blaziken Mask deal from XY.
I guess the wrestling theme might be right in the money... even though in the games everyone already knows except Hau. In fact, one of dialogue options for the player once they meet him is "Professor?"
 
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I guess the wrestling theme might be right in the money... even though in the games everyone already knows except Hau. In fact, one of dialogue options for the player once they meet him is "Professor?"
Makes sense why Ash couldn’t tell after all those TR disguises, if Kukui put on a fake mustache Ash would probably not recognize him.
 
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Ash deserves less shade thrown at him by the fandom than Shinji does, regardless of if Shinji or Ash get more shade in general. Say what you will about Ash, but when he doesn't win leagues or doesn't catch all Pokemon the world is never at risk of turning into gelatin or blowing up.
 
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I'm only seven episodes into Journeys, so it still might be too early to say for sure, but I like Goh. While I do have mixed feelings on his capture spree style of getting Pokemon, it's also clear that he does care about them and his bond with Scorbunny is already quite sweet. I can understand some of the complaints about his goal and his capture style a bit more, but Goh himself is perfectly fine and likable thus far to me.

This probably isn't as controversial, but even after seeing Mr. Mime in battle, I still don't like the idea of it being Ash's Pokemon all this time. They are definitely trying to make it more akin to the Detective Pikachu Mr. Mime, especially with some of those facial expressions and having it mime more often. On one hand, this does give Mr. Mime some much needed personality after just being Delia's housekeeper for ages, but at the same time, that's exactly why it feels so jarring. Giving Mr. Mime such a drastic personality change and suddenly making it a power house is so weird. They might as well have given Ash a brand new Mr. Mime instead of changing it so much. Admittedly, this would probably be more of a problem for long time fans rather than some of the younger fans who haven't seen Mr. Mime as just Delia's Pokemon for twenty years, but it's still a really weird choice. The issue might also be more moot if Ash does get more captures, but it still kind of rubs me the wrong way.
 
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Goh is a mixed bag. There are some episodes where his behavior/motivation/ambition is downright stupid especially when he starts having unrealistic amounts of success since it's hard to relate to a character who they try to portray as "perfect" while his problems are handwaven away or swept under the rug. There are others where he can be a really decent guy (ex: the Cubone episode). You're still far too early in the series so keep watching (you don't watch the original version though?).
I don't watch the original version, but I hear about most of the major events and see gifs all the time. I just prefer to watch the dub. I can see some issues, such as how he tends to capture his Pokemon too easily. Even if they are trying to mimic the Pokemon Go style of capturing, it's still way too easy for most of Goh's Pokemon to be caught with one Pokeball. But I just don't get a major problem with Goh's personality so far. I don't think this kind of capture spree translates well into the anime, but it does also mirror how a lot of people capture Pokemon in the games and not just in Pokemon Go. It could still be too early, but in terms of first impressions, Goh seems fine to me.

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The problem with Mr. Mime and that infamous "Battle Frontier" episode isn't the fact that Mr. Mime was officially canonized as Ash's Pokemon, but the way and the manner it was done in. Prior to the original release, they kept advertising a "surprise" Pokemon and then out of nowhere in the actual episode, they pulled out the card that Mr. Mime was Ash's all along... not to mention the pointlessness of the actual "Battle Frontier" title for the entire thing. There was absolutely no build up to Mr. Mime, not even something as simple as a 15 second flashback and explanation that Ash was the one who captured it for his mother. Then there's the fact that they failed to utilize it properly from that point on outside of household activities and some gags here and there.
I forgot about the surprise Pokemon advertising, which most likely was a big reason why fans thought that he was going to bring out one of his reserves. Making Mr. Mime Ash's Pokemon all along would still feel rather bothersome to me even if they did provide a flashback. It would feel like such a needless recton when it would have been better, or at least more believable, that Ash caught a different Mr. Mime instead. If they weren't so set on making it similar to the Detective Pikachu Mr. Mime, giving Ash a Galarian Mr. Mime would have been neat, or at least I think it would have been more interesting. The Battle Frontier title was quite misleading. That didn't really bother me when watching the episode since the battles were pretty solid and I liked the COTD, but I can see why that would upset people when it first aired. They really should have figured out a different title for the tournament or at least have a Frontier Brain host it to make the name feel somewhat earned.
 
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Well I for one loved that they retconned Mimey as Ash's Pokemon. Especially because it gave him two of the types he was missing. If people dont like it oh well :p
I personally find that l, in situations like that, that’s an incredibly lazy way of doing it. If you want to give Ash a fairy and/or a psychic type, have him capture them just as he’s had to with literally every other type. It makes it feel less like an accomplishment when they rely on things that even the series can’t back up.
 
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There were definitely better/more fitting Psychic and Fairy types for Ash to get than Mr. Mime. If they have to rely on a retcon to give him two missing types, then that's pretty weak. It's incredibly difficult, if not flat out impossible, for me to believe that Mr. Mime was really Ash's Pokemon this entire time and he didn't use it himself for twenty years. There's no way that Ash wouldn't have attempted to use a Psychic Pokemon during the Indigo League if that was the case.
 
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To tell the truth I don't mind that Barrierd's now Satoshi's Pokemon. Even if they waited 20 years for the big reveal it's not a plothole or inconsistency of any kind, and in my opinion it sorta makes sense (since Hanako is not a trainer I'd expect Satoshi to get it before if started working on his house).

Of course it's a Pokemon I don't care about, at all. And its PM 2019 portrayal kinda annoys me... Back in OS it ate just as any other Pokemon would, so why they had to bring Detective Pikachu's Barrierd personality and make it mimic instead?

Although I'm a little biased on this as I don't really like the Detective Pikachu movie.
 
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What was the point of hiding Kukui’s team? I get why he would hide Incineroar from the students, what with his whole Masked Royal charade (we were also never told why he made such a big deal out of that secret and then said “fuck it, Imma fight unmasked”), but how would the rest compromise him in any way? It took us 50 episodes to even find out he has... a Braviary. When did they even eat?

This is made further weird by the fact that his team has types, moves and experience that would definitely teach the students more about pokemon and maybe even directly help developing their own (e.g. Braviary teaching Rowlet Brave Bird, Empoleon using its tides knowledge to aid on Primarina’s bubbles, Lucario teaching Turtonator Dragon Pulse...). I feel like it would have been more logical and satisfying if we had known them before the showdown.
Bad writing.
They should have made Gladion the endgame and give the guy a full proper team instead of trying to pass off that an entire team have been living in the same house as Ash for the past 100 episodes. It just makes Kukui come off as cruel and inhumane, never letting his Pokemon outside and keeping them locked away.

Torracat not evolving until the very last possible moment was a BIG mistake, further improved by Lycanroc battling Kiawe instead of him!

They should have let Torracat beat Incineroar and evolve earlier then wrap up the League with Ash vs Gladion + Nebby vs Lunala, while Ash utilizing Tapunium against Guzzlord(He should have been the one to utilize it, Kukui jacked it from him!)

To tell the truth I don't mind that Barrierd's now Satoshi's Pokemon. Even if they waited 20 years for the big reveal it's not a plothole or inconsistency of any kind, and in my opinion it sorta makes sense (since Hanako is not a trainer I'd expect Satoshi to get it before if started working on his house).

Of course it's a Pokemon I don't care about, at all. And its PM 2019 portrayal kinda annoys me... Back in OS it ate just as any other Pokemon would, so why they had to bring Detective Pikachu's Barrierd personality and make it mimic instead?

Although I'm a little biased on this as I don't really like the Detective Pikachu movie.

I love Detective Pikachu but I hate what they did to Mimey, he was just fine the way he was and it just makes me further sickened they left Incineroar and the others in Alola if they were going to leave Delia alone in two episodes. If Incineroar was living with her I'd find Mimey hanging out with Ash more acceptable
 
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To tell the truth I don't mind that Barrierd's now Satoshi's Pokemon. Even if they waited 20 years for the big reveal it's not a plothole or inconsistency of any kind, and in my opinion it sorta makes sense (since Hanako is not a trainer I'd expect Satoshi to get it before if started working on his house).

Of course it's a Pokemon I don't care about, at all. And its PM 2019 portrayal kinda annoys me... Back in OS it ate just as any other Pokemon would, so why they had to bring Detective Pikachu's Barrierd personality and make it mimic instead?

Although I'm a little biased on this as I don't really like the Detective Pikachu movie.
It isn't a plothole exactly, but it just doesn't make sense to me. Why wait so long to show that Mr. Mime was indeed caught by Ash? Sure, his mother isn't a trainer, but Mr. Mime could have just wanted to stay without being captured. We've seen that with other Pokemon and it would make way more sense than Ash catching it off screen and never using it for twenty years. I really like the Detective Pikachu movie, but I'm not a fan of basically retconning Mr. Mime's personality to make it more akin to that version of Mr. Mime. If this was a brand new Mr. Mime, then it would be fine. It would still feel like a blatant attempt at trying to make Mr. Mime more popular within the anime, but it wouldn't feel so forced and jarring. They just should have given Ash his own Mr. Mime instead of making such a strange retcon.

Bad writing.
They should have made Gladion the endgame and give the guy a full proper team instead of trying to pass off that an entire team have been living in the same house as Ash for the past 100 episodes. It just makes Kukui come off as cruel and inhumane, never letting his Pokemon outside and keeping them locked away.
I don't think that the audience was suppose to think that none of his Pokemon aside from Braviary and Incineroar were locked away. Granted, Ash actually living with Professor Kukui makes it weirder that he never saw any of these Pokemon, but I think reading it as Kukui being cruel and inhumane is a bit much. I don't know if I could have seen Gladion being the endgame match instead of Proessor Kukui. There was enough buildup to make Ash vs. Gladion to be a fitting final round of the Alola League, but he didn't have as much hype as the Masked Royal did and battling him was effectively the prize for winning the Alola League too.

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Torracat not evolving until the very last possible moment was a BIG mistake, further improved by Lycanroc battling Kiawe instead of him!

They should have let Torracat beat Incineroar and evolve earlier then wrap up the League with Ash vs Gladion + Nebby vs Lunala, while Ash utilizing Tapunium against Guzzlord(He should have been the one to utilize it, Kukui jacked it from him!)
While I do wish that Incineroar could have had a battle after it evolved, I don't think that there would have been a more fitting time for Torracat to evolve. It's goal was to defeat Professor Kukui's Incineroar. Evolving before that match wouldn't have worked and I think Torracat evolving from the experience of that battle instead of giving it the extra push it needed to win felt pretty refreshing in a way. Besides that, the battle with Kiawe was mostly off-screen, so I don't think that Incineroar would have gotten much of a battle in that case. I don't think that they planned for Ash to win the Alola League from the start of SM, but considering how much hype there was for Professorr Kukui's Incineroar, I don't know if defeating it outside of the Alola League would have worked. I'm also not sure how Solgaleo vs. Lunala would fit into this.

I was fine with Professor Kukui using Tapunium. Ash using it against Guzzlord would have been cool, but I thought that Tapu Koko recognizing Professor Kukui's own strength with use of its own Z-Move was really cool too. His team and skills were pretty solid so being acknowledged in such a way was neat. Plus, Pikachu fighting against a giant Tapu Koko with its own Z-Move was really great.
 
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Well I for one loved that they retconned Mimey as Ash's Pokemon. Especially because it gave him two of the types he was missing. If people dont like it oh well :p
I'd prefer if Ash caught a different Mr. Mime but I'm glad he got the species because I honestly don't see any of the Psychic and (especially) Fairy types fitting him more.
 
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I'm only seven episodes into Journeys, so it still might be too early to say for sure, but I like Goh. While I do have mixed feelings on his capture spree style of getting Pokemon, it's also clear that he does care about them and his bond with Scorbunny is already quite sweet. I can understand some of the complaints about his goal and his capture style a bit more, but Goh himself is perfectly fine and likable thus far to me.
The biggest problem for me is not Goh himself as a character. Its his goal and how its handled. First of all, Goh is meant to represent Pokemon Go and honestly, I don't think he and how he catches Pokemon should have been how they represent it. I think if they really wanted to represent Pokemon Go, they should have given roles to Professor Willow, Blanche, Candela, and Spark. Secondly, Goh's goal is just....He catches Pokemon too easily. There's almost no effort, and its just throwing years of established rules out the window when we've sat there hearing you have to weaken a Pokemon before you could catch it for years. So there's that, and to go on top of this, he doesn't even train them, nor does he even battle. When he just catches like 5 Pokemon an episode too easily and never uses them, what incentive do I have to root for him? I sit there and go why do you need all these Flabebe? Why do you need one of every color? How is this gonna get you Mew? A collector just doesn't work for an interesting protagonist goal in the Pokemon anime. If Goh was out there traveling the world to track down Mew and build a team that could defeat Mew and help him catch it, maybe I could root for him, but that isn't the case.
 
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I personally find that l, in situations like that, that’s an incredibly lazy way of doing it. If you want to give Ash a fairy and/or a psychic type, have him capture them just as he’s had to with literally every other type. It makes it feel less like an accomplishment when they rely on things that even the series can’t back up.
Who knows if he was ever going to get another Psychic or Fairy type after eight gens. That wasn't the reason they retconned Mimey as his but it is an added bonus. Plus I like Mr. Mime as a Pokemon so fine with me. I feel like people complaining are making a mountain out of a molehill
 
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The biggest problem for me is not Goh himself as a character. Its his goal and how its handled. First of all, Goh is meant to represent Pokemon Go and honestly, I don't think he and how he catches Pokemon should have been how they represent it. I think if they really wanted to represent Pokemon Go, they should have given roles to Professor Willow, Blanche, Candela, and Spark. Secondly, Goh's goal is just....He catches Pokemon too easily. There's almost no effort, and its just throwing years of established rules out the window when we've sat there hearing you have to weaken a Pokemon before you could catch it for years. So there's that, and to go on top of this, he doesn't even train them, nor does he even battle. When he just catches like 5 Pokemon an episode too easily and never uses them, what incentive do I have to root for him? I sit there and go why do you need all these Flabebe? Why do you need one of every color? How is this gonna get you Mew? A collector just doesn't work for an interesting protagonist goal in the Pokemon anime. If Goh was out there traveling the world to track down Mew and build a team that could defeat Mew and help him catch it, maybe I could root for him, but that isn't the case.
I'm not sure if I could have seen them giving roles to the Go Team Leaders, although Professor Willow might have worked instead of making a brand new Professor for Vermillion City. While I'm sure that they wanted to incorporate the Pokemon Go style of captures, it also just reminds me of how by a certain point in each game, nearly all of my captures are just done with Quick Balls. He definitely does catch Pokemon way too easily. I play Pokemon Go all the time and I don't capture Pokemon with one attempt nearly that often. Throwing out the established rules feel more jarring to me than anything else. I can understand why that would be upsetting, but after they incorporated the Pokemon Go catching in a main series title, I'm not sure if seeing the anime doing something similar bothers me that much either.

I think part of the problem is that the anime is trying to make catching more akin to how it is done in the games and not just Pokemon Go. Despite how the Pokedex still has information on every Pokemon they encounter available, they now register Pokemon that a character catches to their Pokedex, which wasn't really done before. For some reason, I think that felt weirder to me than just Go catching the bulk of his Pokemon without battling. I don't think that it bothers me that Goh doesn't train or battle with his Pokemon, at least not yet. A character doesn't really need to battle if they aren't interested in doing so. I often said the same thing about Serena, but it does potentially give the character less to do or a less engaging goal if they aren't being more proactive with their Pokemon.

I don't think his goal of working back to Mew makes sense, the catching spree doesn't really translate well into the context of the anime, being a collector isn't really the most engaging goal for a main character to have and I can understand the frustration of seeing him catch a bunch of Pokemon only to never use them, especially if he catches a Pokemon that you really like. I think that the main reasons why his goal doesn't bother me as much right now boils down to how Goh himself is still pretty likable, he still clearly cares about his Pokemon and it does remind me of how I catch Pokemon by a certain point in the main series. Goh catching everything left and right with Pokeballs reminded me of how I was doing basically the same thing when I first got to the Isle of Armor. Going on a capture spree to find even older Pokemon is quite fun. Like I said before, this is a video game element that doesn't quite work within the anime, but I think it's harder for me to get that upset about it when I think of how I capture Pokemon too.

Who knows if he was ever going to get another Psychic or Fairy type after eight gens. That wasn't the reason they retconned Mimey as his but it is an added bonus. Plus I like Mr. Mime as a Pokemon so fine with me. I feel like people complaining are making a mountain out of a molehill
I'm pretty sure that they could have easily found a different Psychic or Fairy type to give Ash instead of randomly retconning Mr. Mime. Fairy might have been a bit more difficult by comparison, but there are plenty of good Psychic types out there that would fit with Ash. This was just the quickest/laziest way they could have done so. I'm not sure if it really good for Mr. Mime if it hasn't been used in battle after that small tournament. It comes off more as a way to justify Ash not using his reserves or not catching a new Pokemon proper for another few episodes than anything else. I didn't like the idea of this retcon before, but seeing more of Journeys myself and the battle itself really reminded me why I didn't like it. It isn't a huge deal breaker. I still like Journeys thus far, that specific episode was still good and the battles were surprisingly solid, especially for Ash's first proper trainer battle in the series. I just also still think that the retcon was bad and downright unnecessary in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Who knows if he was ever going to get another Psychic or Fairy type after eight gens. That wasn't the reason they retconned Mimey as his but it is an added bonus. Plus I like Mr. Mime as a Pokemon so fine with me. I feel like people complaining are making a mountain out of a molehill
Lazy writing in the form of retcons is never a bonus nor should it be viewed as such. This is a medium of show don’t tell and we’ve followed Ash directly for the entire run. There is no excuse for such laziness. If they had ever intended Mr. Mime to be Ash’s, they would have either shown it or acknowledged it within the series where these things can be backed up. The fact that they had to “reveal” it via a Tweet of all things just shows how halfassed the whole thing was. That much isn’t a matter of bias but looking at the writing objectively. At the end of the day, it’s both lazy and bad writing on their part.
 
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Lazy writing in the form of retcons is never a bonus nor should it be viewed as such. This is a medium of show don’t tell and we’ve followed Ash directly for the entire run. There is no excuse for such laziness. If they had ever intended Mr. Mime to be Ash’s, they would have either shown it or acknowledged it within the series where these things can be backed up. The fact that they had to “reveal” it via a Tweet of all things just shows how halfassed the whole thing was. That much isn’t a matter of bias but looking at the writing objectively. At the end of the day, it’s both lazy and bad writing on their part.
Sure it isn't a bonus for you but it is for me. I don't necessarily disagree it was lazy writing on their part but since it finally gave Ash a Psychic and Fairy Pokemon after twenty years I don't really care.

Plus there were already hints it belonged to Ash way before Pokemon Journey
 
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