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So with the knowledge that Iris'll be returning pretty soon some people think'll it be treated how like the return to Alola was treated; With Goh taking up focus to get to know the older cast. Personally, while I DO wish his goal could be handled differently, i'm indifferent to him. So I just gotta ask; Hasn't the return of a previous character always been treated in such a way? With the new character getting to know the old?

When Misty returned in Hoenn didn't she spend more time with Max, bonding over being younger siblings? He even started pulling on Brock's ear like she use to. With May returned in Sinnoh Dawn recognized her as the Princess of Hoenn and the two became best friends pretty fast. When it was Dawn's turn to come back she and Iris bonded quick and liked to tease Ash. If Iris had come back in Kalos I bet she and Serena would have gotten along, and Serena with the Alolan cast

I feel like this is how its always been After all, we had already seen their dynamic with Ash through a whole region(in Misty and May's cases, multiple), so doesn't it make sense to see how the old character's bounce off the new ones?
The difference being that all those returning characters you mentioned appeared in at least 2 consecutive episodes, meaning we have more opportunities to see new and old dynamics.
 
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The difference being that all those returning characters you mentioned appeared in at least 2 consecutive episodes, meaning we have more opportunities to see new and old dynamics.
and never sidelined Ash completely with those interactions.

also doesn't help that the reason they went to Alola was because of the Exeggutor capture rather than being something more wholesome
ex: Ash depression arc where Kukui invites him over to cheer his spirits up
 
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The difference being that all those returning characters you mentioned appeared in at least 2 consecutive episodes, meaning we have more opportunities to see new and old dynamics.
That still means that the problem is less on Goh taking up attention in the Alola episode and more on how they chose to cram in a lot of reunions and introductions into one episode. It wasn't rushed, but having another episode at least would have given them more breathing room, show more of what the SM cast had been doing and showcase both new and old dynamics more easily. Putting the blame on Goh for this episode just seems unfair to me when that isn't the actual problem.

Plus, it's pretty likely that they'll go back to Alola and interact with the SM cast again. It isn't a guarantee, but with the setup of the series, it is a good possibility, so I doubt that this will be the only chance Ash will have to be back in Alola again in Journeys at least. I could see Ash and Goh running into Lillie and her family down the road too.
 
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That still means that the problem is less on Goh taking up attention in the Alola episode and more on how they chose to cram in a lot of reunions and introductions into one episode. It wasn't rushed, but having another episode at least would have given them more breathing room, show more of what the SM cast had been doing and showcase both new and old dynamics more easily. Putting the blame on Goh for this episode just seems unfair to me when that isn't the actual problem.
I mean... if they’re cramming a lot of stuff in one episode they should ensure that the focus isn’t lopsided for any one protagonist...
 
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I mean... if they’re cramming a lot of stuff in one episode they should ensure that the focus isn’t lopsided for any one protagonist...
I didn't think that the focus was lopsided though. Ash didn't feel like an afterthought compared to Goh and I didn't think that Goh meeting with Ash's friends or battling Kiawe was given more importance than Ash reuniting with his friends and Alola family either. Most of the best moments of the episode still involved Ash reuniting with his friends or Professor Kukui. Even Goh's battle with Kiawe sticks out to me mainly due to Kiawe being an overprotective friend for Ash. Granted, I still feel like the complaints about the screentime come off more like exaggerations more than anything else, but even without factoring that in, I didn't think that Goh took up significantly more attention than Ash in the Alola episode.

The real issue was just trying to cram in so much into one episode and that would have most likely been the case regardless of Goh's role. Not having more multi-part episodes or arcs is a consistent problem with Journeys too, so it isn't an exclusive problem with just this one episode either. That's a big reason why it feels unfair to put the blame on Goh here, especially when it just makes me think that Goh seemingly can't do anything without getting any kind of backlash.
 
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just a reminder that the reason they went to Alola in the first place is only so Goh could catch the Alolan Exeggutor and not because of the family reunion. once that goal was achieved, they instantly teleported back. the interactions ended up feeling secondary. that only harms the organics worldbuilding and further validates the complaint about Goh screenhogging
 
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just a reminder that the reason they went to Alola in the first place is only so Goh could catch the Alolan Exeggutor and not because of the family reunion. once that goal was achieved, they instantly teleported back. the interactions ended up feeling secondary. that only harms the organics worldbuilding and further validates the complaint about Goh screenhogging
I wouldn't say that it makes the interactions feeling secondary. Despite being the reason for them going to Alola, catching an Alolan Exeggutor wasn't the main focus of the episode. It was still ultimately about Ash and Goh going to Alola and seeing his friends. Goh catching an Alolan Exeggutor was just the rationale behind the trip. Perhaps it wasn't the best reason for their first Alola trip, but I don't think it invalidates the focus on Ash interacting with his Alola family or friends again. I think that would be more of the takeaway fans get from this episode than going there because Goh wanted Alola Pokemon, especially when they do still want to go back there again someday and not just so that Goh can capture more Pokemon.

I definitely disagree that it validates the complaints on Goh's screentime. Teleporting back right after catching the Alolan Exeggutor seems more like another issue with trying to fit the whole Alola return trip into one episode. I didn't get the impression that the rest of the episode didn't matter because Goh achieved what he wanted to do in Alola at least. This just seems like too harsh of a read on the episode on both accounts in my opinion. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when there are quite a few episodes in Journeys that I really like and other fans tend to be more harsh and negative about them, but it really just makes me think that Goh can't really do anything without people getting upset about it at this point.
 
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just a reminder that the reason they went to Alola in the first place is only so Goh could catch the Alolan Exeggutor and not because of the family reunion. once that goal was achieved, they instantly teleported back. the interactions ended up feeling secondary. that only harms the organics worldbuilding and further validates the complaint about Goh screenhogging
Ash can barely visit his own mother without a reason to do so and you want him to fly to Hawaii without some silly excuse? I mean, if there's one thing consistent with Ash is how good he's at ghosting his loved ones lmao
 
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"Ash's old Pokemon shouldn't reappear because he has so many someone's favorite is going to be left out" is a terrible argument. If after Sinnoh 7 of Ash's old Pokemon were reused in each following tournament that's 21 of Ash's old Pokémon that would have be reused. That's not insignificant. Just because I really really really really want Kingler to reappear doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate Torkoal or Krookodile reappearing. People who like a specific Pokemon are likely to like other pokemon from those types and gens or just other Pokemon in general. Granted you can argue in Best Wishes he had too many pokemon already or that we didn't have time for Ash's pokemon to reappear in Sun and Moon because they were focusing on other characters but those are specific cases and they still could have still squeezed in a couple. They had to spend significant screen time Naganadel reappearing when they could have just thrown a less used Kanto mon a bone because of Let's go.
 
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I don't really understand why Ash's Sliggoo learned Dragon Breath upon evolving, only to forget it a few episodes later upon evolving again in favor of Dragon Pulse. Seems kinda pointless to me.
You know? This here actually gives us a glimpse of a version of the anime where Goodra's evolution is less rushed: the episode where Goomy becomes Sliggoo could have just been an episode where Goomy learns Dragon Breath (since it's not like Goomy needs to evolve to learn it), while the episode where it evolves into Goodra could have been the episode where it evolves into Sliggoo. Then the evolution into Goodra could have happened either during or just before the Gym battle against Clemont, or the Wetlands arc could have been rewritten so it took place before Clemont's Gym and the full evolution into Goodra takes place during it while also not ending with Goodra's release.

The evolution still would have been a tad rushed like this, but at least it'd have been slightly less so.
 
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One of Diamond and Pearl series's strengths was that it was clearly well planned ahead, and those plans were executed without much disturbance. The HeartGold and SoulSilver promotion didn't really detract the series from its planned course, aside from perhaps causing the controversial Ambipom sendoff in favor of giving Dawn a Cyndaquil.
 
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One of Diamond and Pearl series's strengths was that it was clearly well planned ahead, and those plans were executed without much disturbance. The HeartGold and SoulSilver promotion didn't really detract the series from its planned course, aside from perhaps causing the controversial Ambipom sendoff in favor of giving Dawn a Cyndaquil.
And you can't forget the multiple call backs it had to previous series and episodes; Jessebelle returned for an episode, Ash's aura got brought up from the Lucario movie, Dawn's Lunar Wing from the Darkrai movie, a load of Ash's Pokemon returning during the league and Ash's win over the Battle Frontier being played into his rivalry with Paul and said rival's backstory revolving around it. The only time we get any callback to his previous leagues is when we get a look at his badges and trophies in his room - its very doubtful Journeys is going to ever bring up the Orange Island, i'm pretty sure Ash being Alola's CHampion didn't get brought up when they returned to it.
 
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One of Diamond and Pearl series's strengths was that it was clearly well planned ahead, and those plans were executed without much disturbance. The HeartGold and SoulSilver promotion didn't really detract the series from its planned course, aside from perhaps causing the controversial Ambipom sendoff in favor of giving Dawn a Cyndaquil.
Ambipom wasn't really sent off in favor of giving Dawn a Cyndaquil. I know that she got Cyndaquil not too long after Ambipom was sent away, but she didn't have a full team at that point. She could have had room for both Ambipom and Cyndaquil. It might be a bit more accurate to say that Ambipom was given away in favor of Dawn eventually getting Togekiss since that was the Pokemon that took up the last slot.
 
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After playing through a new file through Pokemon Sword it got me thinking about Bede. I'm kind of doubting he'll be showing up since Chairman Rose has already come and gone with absolutely no mention of him, not even a brief cameo. But if he DOES show up I hope the writers don't change his team around to be more 'masculine' and 'cool'. In-game his ace is Hatterene and he has a Sylveon, Gardevoir, Galarian Rapidash and a Mawile, a lot of pink and Pokemon one could easily view as feminine.

The girls tend to be a lot more rounded in this regard; May has a lot of cuteness on her team, but she also has her Blaziken, Munchlax and Venusaur. Misty with her gyarados, Dawn's Mamoswine and Iris' Dragonite and Excadrill. Ash's only confirmed females are his Bayleef and Snivy, and his rivals aren't much better aside from Gary's Nidoqueen and Paul's Froslass.

The anime seems to really shy away with giving the guys anything too feminine. So please anime staff, if you do bring in Bede, let him stay pink.
 
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Goh actually isn't that bad. His personality, character background, and character potential are all actually really great. It's just his goal that absolutely ruins his character potential and makes him into a complete writer's pet-ruining any chance of proper characterization and elaboration of the positive aspects of his character.
 
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Goh actually isn't that bad. His personality, character background, and character potential are all actually really great. It's just his goal that absolutely ruins his character potential and makes him into a complete writer's pet-ruining any chance of proper characterization and elaboration of the positive aspects of his character.
I said it before so I hope this doesn’t come off as repetitive, but actually the main reason I like Goh is because of his goal. It just reminds me of how I myself tend to play Pokémon games. I just love collecting all the Pokémon as soon as I can. I just think this goal in a video game setting might not translate well to the anime setting for many people. For me, though, I feel that it works and I like that this point of view is finally represented.
 
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Goh actually isn't that bad. His personality, character background, and character potential are all actually really great.
all of those have had zero bearing on his progression outside of a few moments (like Alola) which were promptly forgotten and felt inconsistent overall, which makes it seem like superficial compared to everything else
 
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I said it before so I hope this doesn’t come off as repetitive, but actually the main reason I like Goh is because of his goal. It just reminds me of how I myself tend to play Pokémon games. I just love collecting all the Pokémon as soon as I can. I just think this goal in a video game setting might not translate well to the anime setting for many people. For me, though, I feel that it works and I like that this point of view is finally represented.
The goal isn't bad. It's execution is.
 
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