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Jewel the Quaxly

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Speaking of Pikachu, I cannot stress enough how much I cannot stand the arguments that Pikachu should evolve into Raichu. Especially considering that, if you actually stop and think about it, Pikachu evolving into a raichu would make ZERO sense and the only way for it to actually make sense would end up in a ridiculously contrived scenario that renders all of Pikachu's development meaningless. All the arguments FOR Pikachu evolving ultimately amount to ignoring giving an actual reason as for WHY Pikachu should do so and try to offer moral standpoints which really make no sense within the narrative of the show. For instance, the argument that "Pikachu didn't change for Ash which makes him selfish"(or something among those lines) which...do I need to even explain??? Like, seriously, I want to see someone come up with a valid reason for Pikachu to evolve that makes sense within the narrative and isn't contrived or lazy writing that eventually adds up to "just evolve to get more powerful".

If you just want Pikachu to evolve so there's positive Raichu representation-even though this could easily be solved in a way that makes much more sense by introducing CotDs or side characters with Raichu-then I'd like to see you come up with a valid reason. Because so far, there's been absolutely none.
 

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I don't necessarily think this is a hot take, but I want to throw it out there: So far, Gengar is one of the worst written team members out of all of Ash's pokemon. The capture episode was about Gengar getting abandoned, but guess what Ash almost completely ignores him as well.. Give the poor guy some attention!
 
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Speaking of Pikachu, I cannot stress enough how much I cannot stand the arguments that Pikachu should evolve into Raichu. Especially considering that, if you actually stop and think about it, Pikachu evolving into a raichu would make ZERO sense and the only way for it to actually make sense would end up in a ridiculously contrived scenario that renders all of Pikachu's development meaningless. All the arguments FOR Pikachu evolving ultimately amount to ignoring giving an actual reason as for WHY Pikachu should do so and try to offer moral standpoints which really make no sense within the narrative of the show. For instance, the argument that "Pikachu didn't change for Ash which makes him selfish"(or something among those lines) which...do I need to even explain??? Like, seriously, I want to see someone come up with a valid reason for Pikachu to evolve that makes sense within the narrative and isn't contrived or lazy writing that eventually adds up to "just evolve to get more powerful".

If you just want Pikachu to evolve so there's positive Raichu representation-even though this could easily be solved in a way that makes much more sense by introducing CotDs or side characters with Raichu-then I'd like to see you come up with a valid reason. Because so far, there's been absolutely none.
... there are people still hung up on that?? Jesus, 20+ years and they still can’t let it go?

I’d reckon a lot of people whining about Pikachu not evolving probably stem from the same who rant about Ash being pathetic for not evolving his pokemon... implying he should have just told Pikachu to get over his decisions as an individual and chucked the Thunderstone down his throat. Surely that would never backfire both in and out of universe, hm?
 

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I'm not personally sold on the idea it would be impossible to come up with a convincing reason for Pikachu to evolve but in my mind it always takes the form of either an accident or him doing it during some sort of emergency out of a desperate need for more power. Not very likely and would feel like a ratings stunt.

I sort of suspect the people saying Ash should forcibly evolve him are younger people, though.
 

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Well, I did give up on that after seeing what kind of series this was going to be.
 

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I'm not personally sold on the idea it would be impossible to come up with a convincing reason for Pikachu to evolve but in my mind it always takes the form of either an accident or him doing it during some sort of emergency out of a desperate need for more power.
The thing is though, every reason that people have ever come up with is ridiculously contrived and has absolutely no reason to even exist. A common one is Pikachu evolving to save Ash from danger, but then not only would Ash have to be in danger in the first place, Pikachu would have to be in a position where he's struggling-and why would the dangerous situation specifically require Pikachu to evolve anyway(?), a Thunderstone would need to be present for one reason or another, and not to mention...it would be yet another Evolution Ex Machina that the anime just loves to shove down our faces. :cautious:

I sort of suspect the people saying Ash should forcibly evolve him are younger people, though.
Unfortunately, no. There are still plenty of older fans who wish for Pikachu to evolve.
 

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The thing is though, every reason that people have ever come up with is ridiculously contrived and has absolutely no reason to even exist. A common one is Pikachu evolving to save Ash from danger, but then not only would Ash have to be in danger in the first place, Pikachu would have to be in a position where he's struggling-and why would the dangerous situation specifically require Pikachu to evolve anyway(?), a Thunderstone would need to be present for one reason or another, and not to mention...it would be yet another Evolution Ex Machina that the anime just loves to shove down our faces. :cautious:
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to get at. You can come up with an in-character reason for Pikachu to do it, but it would likely feel contrived.
 
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I may vastly prefer Raichu over Pikachu, but I can't think of any reason as to why Ash's Pikachu would need to evolve. An increase in speed and strength? Sure, but the two work amazing well together already, and considering everything Pikachu's beaten already evolutuion isn't going to make him unstoppable or anything. Its like a said about two years ago about a similar subject; If Ash just evolved his Pokemon against their will people would still be complaining, the kid literally can't win no matter what he does. Plus, what kind of message does that send to the target audience? That its OK to force someone to do something as long as you get some kind of benefit from it?
 

Jewel the Quaxly

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Plus, if Pikachu did evolve, he would not be able to ride on Ash's shoulder as easily as he could as a Pikachu.
Or a table. :p
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I may vastly prefer Raichu over Pikachu, but I can't think of any reason as to why Ash's Pikachu would need to evolve. An increase in speed and strength? Sure, but the two work amazing well together already, and considering everything Pikachu's beaten already evolutuion isn't going to make him unstoppable or anything. Its like a said about two years ago about a similar subject; If Ash just evolved his Pokemon against their will people would still be complaining, the kid literally can't win no matter what he does. Plus, what kind of message does that send to the target audience? That its OK to force someone to do something as long as you get some kind of benefit from it?
In addition to this, I'm just gonna bring up my essay from a while back:
On a different note, I've been thinking about Pikachu's refusal of evolution and how back in the day there were quite a few people lamenting that he wasn't a Raichu... but really, when you think about it, Pikachu remaining unevolved is kind of a blessing in disguise for how long the anime has been running: the fact of the matter is, they can't make Pikachu win literally every battle ever. It would just make things boring, stale, and predictable because even if it makes sense, a protagonist that does nothing but win at everything all the time simply isn't that fun to watch after a while. And I think Pikachu being unevolved in a way can help explain why he loses even after having overcome Legendaries in the past: sure, Pikachu may be incredibly experienced, but at the end of the day he's still an unevolved mon and thus has to work twice as hard to maintain his power and skill, and sometimes there's gonna be days when his lack of natural raw power is going to work against him, hence why he can go from beating a Legendary Tapu Koko to losing to a regular old Grapploct for example. Sure, such dissonance might be perplexing to some, but I think Pikachu being unevolved helps keep his losses plausible and believable: if he was a Raichu it'd at best be borderline impossible to believe his fluctuating power levels.

Also, yes, there's some losses that absolutely can't be justified like everything about Trip's Snivy/Servine but we don't talk about that shhh

TL; DR, Pikachu staying unevolved is also very practical for long-runner purposes, since him being unevolved in a way keeps his power level from getting too out of control and thus makes (most of) his loses more believable than they would have been if he were a more powerful Raichu.
 

Jewel the Quaxly

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I’m fine with how Ash lost the Kanto League because it allowed development for Charizard
Really? Because it felt like it allowed more development for Ash, not Charizard. Charizard didn't make any significant development until the Orange Islands.
 

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Okay I've got a REAL unpopular opinion here!

Ash x Misty AND Ash x Serena are both good and valid ships and trying to pit the two girls against each other is lame to be quite honest.

NO people. Misty is NOT Abusive towards Ash

NO people. Serena is not a Stalker towards Ash

Both girls are Great. Both share cute moments with Ash. And Both have helped Ash grow and develop

Misty isn't a "B*tch" and Serena isn't "Sexist" for having a crush
 

Alola

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For both of them
I guess you can look at it as Charizard cementing its disrespect for Ash, which can be seen as a kind of development (not a positively progressive one, though). Sure, it didn't really listen to him after evolving, but it chose the worst possible moment to really let Ash know that at Indigo League - it will always be one of Charizard's infamous decisions in history. And I think because it did that, it made the respect it did eventually gain for Ash (and the development people more often refer to) all the more meaningful and apparent.
 

Torchic W. Pip

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Okay I've got a REAL unpopular opinion here!

Ash x Misty AND Ash x Serena are both good and valid ships and trying to pit the two girls against each other is lame to be quite honest.

NO people. Misty is NOT Abusive towards Ash

NO people. Serena is not a Stalker towards Ash

Both girls are Great. Both share cute moments with Ash. And Both have helped Ash grow and develop

Misty isn't a "B*tch" and Serena isn't "Sexist" for having a crush

Thank you thank you THANK YOU! I may not be the biggest Amourshipper or Pokeshipper, but Thank. You. As someone who's really into shipping, people can sometimes get so mean about ships, especially when it comes to women and especially when they're seen as "getting in the way of a ship". I could go on about this, but it makes me so mad. I may not be the biggest Pokeshipper or Amourshipper, but honestly, as long as you're not hurting anyone, be a Pokeshipper, be an Amourshipper, heck, be both or neither!
 

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Thank you thank you THANK YOU! I may not be the biggest Amourshipper or Pokeshipper, but Thank. You. As someone who's really into shipping, people can sometimes get so mean about ships, especially when it comes to women and especially when they're seen as "getting in the way of a ship". I could go on about this, but it makes me so mad. I may not be the biggest Pokeshipper or Amourshipper, but honestly, as long as you're not hurting anyone, be a Pokeshipper, be an Amourshipper, heck, be both or neither!
I think we can all agree on that. This isnt a fight, not who is better
 

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Okay I've got a REAL unpopular opinion here!


Misty isn't a "B*tch" and Serena isn't "Sexist" for having a crush
I mean Misty sleept on Ash's house but not in a bed with him so yeah, but I have no idea with Serena "Sexist" thing is coming from, can someone enlightened me about that?
 
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