Controversial opinions

[KenzeyEevee]

He may not battle too much, but when he does, he does it well. Remember that this series isn't as much focused on action as the previous ones.

Yeah and I really get that. But cant a comedy series have action too?

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Yeah and I really get that. But cant a comedy series have action too?

They do! Just check out the trial and Ultra Guardians episodes, for example!

 

[Johtohfiller]

Z-moves were a mistake.

 

[KenzeyEevee]

They do! Just check out the trial and Ultra Guardians episodes, for example!

Yeah. That some kind of "action".

 

[CrashBash]

I can get behind that review of Ash's role, but unfortunately I still can't get over the fact that, inexperienced or otherwise, he was still a massive a-hole in the original series, and then everyone ELSE was a massive a-hole to him on the occasions Ash himself WASN'T being an a-hole.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for jerk protagonists, but not on the level and not with the amount of hypocrisy the Kanto saga had.

 

[KenzeyEevee]

Z-moves were a mistake.

Why? Why are they wrong? Why did Ash get a Z-Ring and not a Mega-Ring?

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Z-moves were a mistake.

Z-Moves were to moves what Mega Evolutions and regional variants were for the Pokémon themselves: a way to bring some forgotten and underused material back into the spotlight.

Yeah. That some kind of "action".

They were action! Comedic action, maybe, at times, but action nonetheless!

I can get behind that review of Ash's role, but unfortunately I still can't get over the fact that, inexperienced or otherwise, he was still a massive a-hole in the original series, and then everyone ELSE was a massive a-hole to him on the occasions Ash himself WASN'T being an a-hole.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for jerk protagonists, but not on the level and not with the amount of hypocrisy the Kanto saga had.

Well, the way characters were written back in season 1 was kinda weird at times. You can blame it on that.

 

[marshiyanmisuta]

FinnishPokéfan92, you don't have to answer any kind of criticism, especially in this thread.

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

FinnishPokéfan92, you don't have to answer any kind of criticism, especially in this thread.

I'm just stating my opinions. It's what this thread is for: exchanging opinions others may disagree with.

 

[marshiyanmisuta]

I'm just stating my opinions. It's what this thread is for: exchanging opinions others may disagree with.

This is not a thread to discuss others' controversial opinions.

 

[KenzeyEevee]

Sorry for my outrage. Lets face it: SM isnt really made for the West. Where pokémon stayed general in the past, they focuss on humor and the humor is different from The East and the West.

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

This is not a thread to discuss others' controversial opinions.

I respectfully disagree.

Sorry for my outrage. Lets face it: SM isnt really made for the West. Where pokémon stayed general in the past, they focuss on humor and the humor is different from The East and the West.

I'm not so sure. I know many westerners who honestly enjoy the humor of S&M.

 

[KenzeyEevee]

I respectfully disagree.

I'm not so sure. I know many westerners who honestly enjoy the humor of S&M.

Most of the jokes go lost in translating like that baseball joke.

 

[FluffleFi]

I honestly like that the SM took one a more slice-of-life style, what's wrong with a change in formula after 20 years? Might just be my bias since I mostly watch for the Pokemon themselves, but I just really like the interactions between them. Back then you hardly ever had Pokemon interact outside their own allies, but for the last few sagas we've had more and more interactions. Like Pikachu and Piplup, Gible and Piplup, Pancham and Chespin and Bunnelby and Eevee(before she evolved and became dull, anyway). Now every Pokemon stays outside of its ball and they can all see each other whenever the crew goes to school.

Also, I Buneary's one of my favorite Pokemon but I find Togedemaru's crush on Pikachu to be a lot more enduring and adorable.

 

[KenzeyEevee]

I honestly like that the SM took one a more slice-of-life style, what's wrong with a change in formula after 20 years? Might just be my bias since I mostly watch for the Pokemon themselves, but I just really like the interactions between them. Back then you hardly ever had Pokemon interact outside their own allies, but for the last few sagas we've had more and more interactions. Like Pikachu and Piplup, Gible and Piplup, Pancham and Chespin and Bunnelby and Eevee(before she evolved and became dull, anyway). Now every Pokemon stays outside of its ball and they can all see each other whenever the crew goes to school.

Also, I Buneary's one of my favorite Pokemon but I find Togedemaru's crush on Pikachu to be a lot more enduring and adorable.

Nothing is wrong with changing and I like SM, but they go something TOO far in humor and faces.

How will they write the next series? Comedy-style or action-packed or general?

 

[marshiyanmisuta]

I respectfully disagree.

Discussing others' controversial opinions would be out of topic.

How will they write the next series? Comedy-style or action-packed or general?

This is, also, out of topic.

 

[Johtohfiller]

Why? Why are they wrong? Why did Ash get a Z-Ring and not a Mega-Ring?

Extended one-sided stock footage gets old fast.

I loved Samurai Pizza Cats but my least favorite thing about it was how Speedy always finished fights with the same stock footage move.

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Most of the jokes go lost in translating like that baseball joke.

I admit. You're right on that one. The translated puns often come off as forced.

Extended one-sided stock footage gets old fast.

I loved Samurai Pizza Cats but my least favorite thing about it was how Speedy always finished fights with the same stock footage move.

As a kid, I used to watch a show where same launch sequences were repeated every few episodes, but I never got tired of seeing them. And that kind of repeating happens in a ton of other shows too! For example, I happen to know a Power Rangers fan, who always watched every transformation sequence from his favorite seasons. Believe it or not, many people like repeated clips, and I don't hate them here either!

 

[Johtohfiller]

As a kid, I used to watch a show where same launch sequences were repeated every few episodes, but I never got tired of seeing them. And that kind of repeating happens in a ton of other shows too! For example, I happen to know a Power Rangers fan, who always watched every transformation sequence from his favorite seasons. Believe it or not, many people like repeated clips, and I don't hate them here either!

But Pokemon mostly avoided that up until now and IMO that was for the better. Sure there was stock footage, but it was usually brief, TR speeches being the main exception.

 

[marshiyanmisuta]

HAPPY 666th COMMENT!