Controversial opinions

[CharizardFan7]

Was I the only one who didn’t like the Arceus special as much as the rest of the fandom did?

If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you like it?

 

[cricketlaxwolvesbandy]

If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you like it?

Felt repetitive to the Galactic arc/Arceus movie, no buildup, and it felt pointless. They could have at least done it in Stark Mountain. Plus the art style is a huge turnoff and I’m tired of Ash.
Tbf I haven’t watch the second part yet and I probably never will. I know people say “don’t judge a book by its cover” but I don’t want to waste 40 mins of my life watching it.
If there was more LA stuff I would watch it, but nope, this doesn’t even promote the new games right.

 

[CharizardFan7]

Felt repetitive to the Galactic arc/Arceus movie, no buildup, and it felt pointless. They could have at least done it in Stark Mountain. Plus the art style is a huge turnoff and I’m tired of Ash.
Tbf I haven’t watch the second part yet and I probably never will. I know people say “don’t judge a book by its cover” but I don’t want to waste 40 mins of my life watching it.
If there was more LA stuff I would watch it, but nope, this doesn’t even promote the new games right.

Fair enough. There was hardly any Legends Arceus promotion at all, you're right about that. Just that little snippet at the end with Rei. I'm willing to give this series the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best in the end, since I am a loyal fan of this anime and I won't ditch it no matter how controversial it gets. As for the artstyle, yeah, I'm not a fan of it either, but not much we can do about it right?

Edit: And also the catching game Cynthia had them partake in to demonstrate Hisuian Poke Balls.

 

[Sai]

Felt repetitive to the Galactic arc/Arceus movie, no buildup, and it felt pointless. They could have at least done it in Stark Mountain. Plus the art style is a huge turnoff and I’m tired of Ash.
Tbf I haven’t watch the second part yet and I probably never will. I know people say “don’t judge a book by its cover” but I don’t want to waste 40 mins of my life watching it.
If there was more LA stuff I would watch it, but nope, this doesn’t even promote the new games right.

You won't watch 40 minutes of a well animated special, but that's not any different than watching 20 minutes of a repetitive/mundane filler from time to time.

 

[cricketlaxwolvesbandy]

You won't watch 40 minutes of a well animated special, but that's not any different than watching 20 minutes of a repetitive/mundane filler from time to time.

Bro I don’t watch JN anymore

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

Regardless of what people think of Bea's treatment in the anime, for months now, I've felt her treatment in the anime has been far superior to that in Pokémon Adventures. And just now, I saw something that cemented that opinion for me.

Spoiler

The anime version of Bea would never say that she's inexperienced. While she's not my favorite Gym Leader of all time, I still respect her enough to take her calling herself "inexperienced" as an extremely untrue statement.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

Regardless of what people think of Bea's treatment in the anime, for months now, I've felt her treatment in the anime has been far superior to that in Pokémon Adventures. And just now, I saw something that cemented that opinion for me.

Spoiler

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The anime version of Bea would never say that she's inexperienced. While she's not my favorite Gym Leader of all time, I still respect her enough to take her calling herself "inexperienced" as an extremely untrue statement.

I don’t really follow the manga, but there are legitimately talented people with self esteem issues. Not all talented people have a mental health that allows them call themselves experienced and talented.

 

[FinnishPokéFan92]

I don’t really follow the manga, but there are legitimately talented people with self esteem issues. Not all talented people have a mental health that allows them call themselves experienced and talented.

Maybe, but I've never been a fan of Adventures making experienced Trainers have unwarranted confidence issues.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

Maybe, but I've never been a fan of Adventures making experienced Trainers have unwarranted confidence issues.

You might want to read about the Dunning Kruger effect. People who’re very well versed and experienced (but not the best or an expert) tend to have astronomically low estimations of what they actually know. It is a legitimate issue when a budding professional realised how vast their field of expertise actually is and how little they know.

Characters plagued by uncertainity about their own abilities is something that needs to be normalised in media in my opinion, personally and not painted as “lying to themselves”. It can be a legitimate mental health issue.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

An actual controversial opinion for once:
I don’t mind type overlaps. Honestly, a Pokémon doesn’t become useless or redundant just because another Pokémon of the same type is present. The writers neglecting one over the other is a writing issue, not a type issue. As long as they have different moves and look different enough I don’t think a Pokémon shouldn’t be added just because another one of the same type exists, and it shouldn’t be counted as a negative against the newer ‘mon.

 

[HiroHunter]

View attachment 155644You might want to read about the Dunning Kruger effect. People who’re very well versed and experienced (but not the best or an expert) tend to have astronomically low estimations of what they actually know. It is a legitimate issue when a budding professional realised how vast their field of expertise actually is and how little they know.

Characters plagued by uncertainity about their own abilities is something that needs to be normalised in media in my opinion, personally and not painted as “lying to themselves”. It can be a legitimate mental health issue.

Ok I get what you mean but why use Bea for this? I feel like it would make more sense to use Gordie for this.

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

Ok I get what you mean but why use Bea for this? I feel like it would make more sense to use Gordie for this.

Like I said, I have no idea since I don’t follow the manga, I was just commenting on the general complaint of “character is deliberately lying about their own abilities" thing.

 

[UglyToast]

Controversial Opinion : We need more rap battles, even though there was no Fire Type Pokemon in that episode, every line was fire.

 

[cricketlaxwolvesbandy]

I’m going to write a very long rant about Ash-Greninja’s storyline and how Greninja got wasted and thus is not as strong as Sceptile, Pikachu, Charizard, etc. I’m going to be quoting some replies on this thread about it if that’s okay.

 

[HiroHunter]

I’m going to write a very long rant about Ash-Greninja’s storyline and how Greninja got wasted and thus is not as strong as Sceptile, Pikachu, Charizard, etc. I’m going to be quoting some replies on this thread about it if that’s okay.

I'm just going to say that just because Ash-Greninja's arc was wasted and I agree to that. That doesn't mean that its weaker than any of Ash's older aces.

 

[cricketlaxwolvesbandy]

I'm just going to say that just because Ash-Greninja's arc was wasted and I agree to that. That doesn't mean that its weaker than any of Ash's older aces.

It is weaker and I’ll prove it. Still one of his strongest Pokemon

 

[A Wild Luxray]

I’m going to write a very long rant about Ash-Greninja’s storyline and how Greninja got wasted and thus is not as strong as Sceptile, Pikachu, Charizard, etc. I’m going to be quoting some replies on this thread about it if that’s okay.

I agree that they handled Ash-Greninja's story poorly with how they wrapped it up. I think forcing that loss against Alain was one of the absolute worst decisions the writers have ever made. But you are seriously over-exaggerating Ash-'Greninja being weaker just because of one battle that should have gone his way to begin with.

 

[HiroHunter]

It is weaker and I’ll prove it. Still one of his strongest Pokemon

It was one battle and it was a battle he would have won if not for the fact that Alain's MCX was given all of the plot armor needed to somehow no sell Ash-Greninja's last attack.

 

[UglyToast]

It was one battle and it was a battle he would have won if not for the fact that Alain's MCX was given all of the plot armor needed to somehow no sell Ash-Greninja's last attack.

I mean Charizard gained Dragon Typing with it's Mega Evolution which cancelled out it's Water weakness but yeah.

 

[Greninjaman]

Maybe Ash WAS supposed to win the Kalos League, but the higher-ups decided to have Alain win.