Controversial opinions

[Norzan]

Thing is, if all the protagonists were Ash with a new look, why replace Ash in the first place?

Because then they wouldn't need to constantly change Ash to fit whatever plot they want to do like regressing his skill in BW. Using the same character for every new season means that character will bring a bunch of baggage and people will take issue when they change them to act in a way that makes no sense to what is established before.

It's basically what's happening to shows like The Simpsons, where it has gone on far too long to the point the writers don't know what to do with the characters, so they start making them act out of character to fit whatever plot they want for each episode. Unlike the pokemon anime though, The Simpsons should have ended ages ago instead of having new main characters.

 

[jungle_penguins]

I'm very late but I'm up to JN123 in watching the tournament. Something I really don't like, and much of this does come from not playing much of the games much. I'm also uninformed as I only watched a handful of episodes in this series but: I don't like Ash's team.

I don't get why there's a Gengar, a Dragonite, and a Lucario here. It feels like wish fulfillment and not a good kind. If they wanted a Mega Evolution they should've just used an existing Pokemon. Also I hear their Pokemon don't really interact together much and that's unfortunate. But a big thing to me is why these Pokemon now?

As for the battles, I do love how unpredictable they are, like I think that's kind of new for the show and I don't think it's too much of a downgrade. I wish it was more dynamic like before but otherwise it's not as bad as from what I read.

Also, Iris' Excadrill using horn drill is absolute perfection, what a good battle.

 

[PinkThunder]

Ash story should end in jotho region,not now.
it was the perfect moment.

 

[JollyYoshi]

Ash story should end in jotho region,not now.
it was the perfect moment.

Fair and agreeable to some extent.

We still probably would’ve gotten the same stories (except for Pokémon Journeys).

Though, it does feel like some “Magic” will disappear if you do it that way.

 

[Nikita Dracovish]

I don't hate Liko and Roy, and I've stated my antipathy towards manga elitists who continually say Adventures is superior, but I kind of wish we instead got something like the special with Jimmy and Kris. Rotating protagonists like some kind of Jojo series.

 

[JollyYoshi]

I don't hate Liko and Roy, and I've stated my antipathy towards manga elitists who continually say Adventures is superior, but I kind of wish we instead got something like the special with Jimmy and Kris. Rotating protagonists like some kind of Jojo series.

Are you saying that Ash would still be the protagonist with there being a side special or would the entire content of the pokemon anime be a special like in Pokémon Chronicles.

If it was that way, I wouldn’t mind it. It would probably mean better quality content. (But there’s always the chance that they’ll slack off and only make bad episodes if they do it that way)

I also have to ask if you dislike the Pokémon Adventures manga or you just don’t like the people who keep shoving it in your face. At worst, I’d say the manga is mediocre. Though, I’d say it’s enjoyable.

Maybe your point is that people are just saying “Why not read the manga instead of watch the anime?” For me personally, the manga does not take away from the anime. Even if there was no manga, the bad moments would be bad and the good moments would be good.

 

[Nikita Dracovish]

More that each gen has its own protags that rotate, like Adventures.

I don't like people who continually rag on the anime and say Adventures is better. They're both the same kind of shonen stuff.

 

[BeautifulEevee]

I didn't find the "nervous Ash giving the wedding rings" thing funny at all. Why was he ever nervous in the first place? I would have found it funny it if were brought up earlier, justified in-universe and/or mentioned later.

 

[Eitarou]

It was literally brought up in ep 24, when he struggled to give a speech in front of a crowd. Also, why does some two-second gag that never shows up again need an explanation? Some people are just like that.

 

[jungle_penguins]

I think the world of Pokemon would be better with.....less Pokemon? What I mean is not all aspects of the world should involve Pokemon. Entertainment, construction, cooking, and many aspects in the anime involve Pokemon. This makes sense, it's a world filled with well, Pokemon, but I think it would be better if this were lessened, to make the impact of being a Pokemon Trainer (and all its variants) more special? It also makes the excitement of seeing Pokemon less mundane than many think of it to be.

And this ties into another opinion, having real world animals around. I don't think there's too much to be confused if there were regular fish, bugs, even pets like dogs and cats. Sure that makes Caterpie and others pretty confusing but in some ways they're more special because they're classified as Pokemon? The biggest issue with this is the more similar to Earth the world feels the less fantastical Pokemon is.

 

[Nikita Dracovish]

I think the world of Pokemon would be better with.....less Pokemon? What I mean is not all aspects of the world should involve Pokemon. Entertainment, construction, cooking, and many aspects in the anime involve Pokemon. This makes sense, it's a world filled with well, Pokemon, but I think it would be better if this were lessened, to make the impact of being a Pokemon Trainer (and all its variants) more special? It also makes the excitement of seeing Pokemon less mundane than many think of it to be.

And this ties into another opinion, having real world animals around. I don't think there's too much to be confused if there were regular fish, bugs, even pets like dogs and cats. Sure that makes Caterpie and others pretty confusing but in some ways they're more special because they're classified as Pokemon? The biggest issue with this is the more similar to Earth the world feels the less fantastical Pokemon is.

imo i personally like this; it's clear the pokemon world has better tech partially due to pokemon materials, research, etc. there's mentions of it in the games, like the macro cosmos boards. you also see stuff like Golurks guarding banks

I really liked G1 because it felt like 'our world but a little more fantastic', and I get why people don't like that, but I think it rings a little more true for me/I'm better invested when it's more like our world.

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Controversial opinion: MPM has just kinda...left a lot to be desired? We haven't see the last episode as of this post, but these last 10 episodes of this mini series have been underwhelming in a way. If you look at it as a standard batch of episodes, it can be genuinely nice. Some of them are very good episodes. It had some of the charm the OS did and it was just nice to see Ash traveling with Brock and Misty again. But looking at it as Ash's big send off...It kinda left more to be desired. I mean, after the 3rd episode, I kinda expected more returns after seeing Cilan featured and I thought there was some interview that implied we'd see more. Then I was hoping for more use out of the reserves when we had episodes that only gave him like 1 of his reserves. Plus there was just a number of scenarios that could have happened but we never got, like returning to Alola after making the region proud or maybe even something like seeing Primeape again. I even kinda hoped to see something completely out there like seeing Ash's father. It just left a lot to be desired after 10 episodes. There's still the final episode in less than 4 hours, but still.

 

[Jaye]

Controversial opinion: MPM has just kinda...left a lot to be desired?

Honestly, this will likely end up being the popular opinion in time.

Most of us expected a farewell tour type of show, but they went for something more lowkey. In some ways it was the appropriate choice, but it's difficult not to be underwhelmed.

I think what they wanted to do was reinforce the whole "Ash always helps Pokemon no matter what" thing which has been central to his character, hence the seemingly random episodes with the Beartic and Bannette. Ash's actions earned Latias' trust, culminating in Latias asking Ash to save Latios. It worked, to an extent. However, my issue with it was the pay-off just doesn't seem worth the nine episode build-up, especially when it came at the expense of other, seemingly more important things like sending off the rest of Ash's companions. In the end, we see Ash saving a legendary from a random poacher nobody cares about, almost like a typical movie plot condensed into two episodes, and it's nothing special.

I never expected a deep dive into the "What is a Pokemon Master?" question or for anything significant to change (or any other unrealistic, fanfiction-esque developments some have been craving), but I would have preferred more companions appearing, if only to check in and see how they're doing. I don't need everyone to accomplish their dreams all at once, because that'd be cheesy as hell, but it'd be comforting knowing they're all dong something.