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CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: October 2010)

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: July 2010)

That still says that it is still possible that either of the Zs could still be acquired by other means. It did not say this is the only way.
Pardon my bluntness, but are you reading-impaired? Yaminokame proved that CoroCoro weren't talking about the moves - it is the Pokémon that are exclusive to the event. It doesn't get any clearer than that.
 

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I guess I will do it
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once it evolves I hope.
 
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Pardon my bluntness, but are you reading-impaired? Yaminokame proved that CoroCoro weren't talking about the moves - it is the Pokémon that are exclusive to the event. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

It seemed to me like they were talking about the event moves not being that special. Not anything about the pokemon being event exclusive. Or did you mean to link to a different post?
 

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It seemed to me like they were talking about the event moves not being that special. Not anything about the pokemon being event exclusive. Or did you mean to link to a different post?
I also provided a link to another post where Yaminokame provided the Japanese sentence. The translation is available at PokéBeach, and was also written by Yaminokame.

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Am I supposed to read the whole thread?
No, you were just supposed to read one post in its entirety. What you quoted was another member's post, which Yaminokame referenced before proceeding to prove the theory wrong.

I think that wishful thinking is clouding your judgment. I only expected you to exercise minimal reading comprehension.

Deleting your post isn't going to wipe everything way, either.
 
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Ok, my bad. That doesn't make sense, though. Why make an ordinary pokemon an event only thing? I know that legends are made into rare events for a reason, but regular pokemon? Not to mention this means the fact that one evolves to the other is a mere triviality. It serves no purpose other than for it to be there. (similar to the evo methods for all pre-evos) I know there is precedence for both of these, except that event versions of ordinary pokemon usually have a moveset they don't normally have or something else that one caught in the wild wouldn't have. I also know that completion of the pokedex is of no concern to them since they even made event pokemon to begin with, and thus a lot of people don't even have certain pokemon. For a legend, I can half understand this, but a normal pokemon? The only compensation we can get for this is if the Zs are breedable, thus allowing everyone to distribute them fairly.
 

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Ok, my bad. That doesn't make sense, though. Why make an ordinary pokemon an event only thing? I know that legends are made into rare events for a reason, but regular pokemon?
It's happened before with the Rotom Formes and Spiky-ear Pichu. Since the Rotom Formes had their status changed in HGSS, there is always a chance that the others will meet similar fate in future games (Spiky-ear Pichu in these ones). But if Zoroa and Zoroark are the end of the Pokédex, then not even that will be likely to happen; let's just say that Zoroark would deserve to be the mascot of any game like that (an XD sequel?).

I also disgree with you that Zoroa and Zoroark are "ordinary". Wait for the events before you make up your mind about how unique they are; they obviously have some story that has yet to be told (the movie nonwithstanding). Zoroark could have very impressive base stats; I wouldn't be surprised if it had the same base stat total as the legendary beasts (580), or at least a number surpassing Arcanine's (555).

The only compensation we can get for this is if the Zs are breedable, thus allowing everyone to distribute them fairly.
That's obviously not going to happen. If there were only one event, then Zoroark would be able to breed and spawn unlimited Zoroa, just like Manaphy and Phione. But since there are two separate events, making Zoroark able to breed or Zoroa able to evolve, would render one of the events pointless. Game Freak are not stupid, so I don't see that happening.

I realize that CoroCoro mentioned Zoroa's special evolution method, but that was four months ago and it hasn't been brought up since (or at all as far as the official web sites are concerned). I strongly suspect that Zoroa will be unable to evolve due to traveling through time, which was the reason provided for Spiky-ear Pichu's inability to evolve (Celebi being the culprit).
 
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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: July 2010)

The only compensation we can get for this is if the Zs are breedable, thus allowing everyone to distribute them fairly.

That's what I'm hoping for.
 

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You obviously don't know how hard it is for people in some parts of the world to even get events. True, I know this same argument applies to all event legends, and there's still very few of them. I said that I know Gamefreak doesn't care if you can complete the dex or not. Are you proposing the Zs are like Manaphy/Phione? I've never known Coro Coro to be misleading unless it was their speculation on the matter, in which we should've have paid attention to it. As far as I know, the line about little Z evolving to big Z was not speculation at all.
 

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I'm not worried at all by the way the Z's are obtained. Personally, they're disgustingly ugly. The colors, the faces. Good for them if they're event only. ;D

Now, if Chiramii happened to only be obtained via event, I'd consider killing someone.
 

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You obviously don't know how hard it is for people in some parts of the world to even get events.
I do know how hard it is, as I don't live in any of the countries where events are held. But I also remember that the Pikachu-colored Pichu was distributed via Wi-Fi to European and American players, so I'm not concerned. I also try to be objective no matter what.

Are you proposing the Zs are like Manaphy/Phione?
Not exactly, as that would make Zoroark able to breed. There is no exact precdent, but Spiky-ear Pichu demonstrates what I have in mind for Zoroa. If Zoroa and Zoroark are event-exclusive, which they are, then Game Freak probably want players to preserve Zoroa as-is. The alternative is having one event obviate the need in the other, which is unlikely and redundant.

As far as I know, the line about little Z evolving to big Z was not speculation at all.
Zoroa is Zoroark's pre-evolution, but that doesn't mean that it can necessarily evolve (see Spiky-ear Pichu). When the official web site doesn't state the same information as CoroCoro, and when CoroCoro fail to follow up on a news item, there is a good reason to be suspicious.
 
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That's what I'm hoping for.

I bet they will be able to breed. At least zoroark, I could see zorua being a baby pokemon. As far as evolution, if it's something new I'd bet it's nothing too complicated. Like how leveling up holding a certain item was a "new" evolution method. Or by knowing a certain move and leveling up
 

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I bet they will be able to breed. At least zoroark, I could see zorua being a baby pokemon. As far as evolution, if it's something new I'd bet it's nothing too complicated. Like how leveling up holding a certain item was a "new" evolution method. Or by knowing a certain move and leveling up
Again, wishful thinking. Zoroa evolving would at least not result in a massive outbreak of Wi-Fi trades, but making Zoroark able to breed would do just that. While Manaphy could breed, there is a reason why Phione couldn't evolve and was never treated as anything special (whereas Zoroa is getting its own event).
 
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Isn't that more or less all we've got?
Yes, I clearly do have a interest in making these Pokémon as rare as possible as I intend to make profit out of trading my non-existent collection of them.
 
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It's happened before with the Rotom Formes and Spiky-ear Pichu. Since the Rotom Formes had their status changed in HGSS, there is always a chance that the others will meet similar fate in future games (Spiky-ear Pichu in these ones). But if Zoroa and Zoroark are the end of the Pokédex, then not even that will be likely to happen; let's just say that Zoroark would deserve to be the mascot of any game like that (an XD sequel?).

I also disgree with you that Zoroa and Zoroark are "ordinary". Wait for the events before you make up your mind about how unique they are; they obviously have some story that has yet to be told (the movie nonwithstanding). Zoroark could have very impressive base stats; I wouldn't be surprised if it had the same base stat total as the legendary beasts (580), or at least a number surpassing Arcanine's (555).


That's obviously not going to happen. If there were only one event, then Zoroark would be able to breed and spawn unlimited Zoroa, just like Manaphy and Phione. But since there are two separate events, making Zoroark able to breed or Zoroa able to evolve, would render one of the events pointless. Game Freak are not stupid, so I don't see that happening.

I realize that CoroCoro mentioned Zoroa's special evolution method, but that was four months ago and it hasn't been brought up since (or at all as far as the official web sites are concerned). I strongly suspect that Zoroa will be unable to evolve due to traveling through time, which was the reason provided for Spiky-ear Pichu's inability to evolve (Celebi being the culprit).

I think the Zs will be breedable, I mean they have gender & everything and its not like they're legendary pokémon, so why not?

Also, I strongly suspect Zorua will be able to evolve but in a special way, as you mentioned, UL.
 

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The only way I can see Zorua being available other than the Celebi event, is if they decide to make it a Wi-Fi Mystery Gift. But seen as there's been no mention of that so far, I doubt it will. But you never know, they might change their mind :p
 

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I mean they have gender &
So did Latios and Latias. Also of note is that I've already seen incest jokes about breeding the evolved Zoroa with his mother.

everything and its not like they're legendary pokémon, so why not?
They're event-exclusive, which is a lot more relevant.

Also, I strongly suspect Zorua will be able to evolve but in a special way, as you mentioned, UL.
That's what CoroCoro implied four months ago, but so much has changed since then. If it happens, expect the evolution method to be cumbersome enough so that the Zoroark event isn't rendered pointless.

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The only way I can see Zorua being available other than the Celebi event, is if they decide to make it a Wi-Fi Mystery Gift.
That could very well happen and is what everyone should be focused on. But why isn't anyone worried about Celebi's elusiveness? Why don't we need a Wi-Fi event for that Pokémon? It would certainly take care of two birds with one stone.
 
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How many pages are devoted to the trading card game?
 

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That's what CoroCoro implied four months ago, but so much has changed since then. If it happens, expect the evolution method to be cumbersome enough so that the Zoroark event isn't rendered pointless.


That could very well happen and is what everyone should be focused on. But why isn't anyone worried about Celebi's elusiveness? Why don't we need a Wi-Fi event for that Pokémon? It would certainly take care of two birds with one stone.

That's a better point. The Celebi would allow us to get the Zorua aswell. We've had a Wi-Fi event for Mew, (well the Japanese have, I don't think it's come to English HG/SS yet, has it?), Shaymin, Darkrai and the PCP. Celebi should really get one in B&W, allowing us to get Zorua aswell.
 

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I do know how hard it is, as I don't live in any of the countries where events are held. But I also remember that the Pikachu-colored Pichu was distributed via Wi-Fi to European and American players, so I'm not concerned. I also try to be objective no matter what.

Technically, the Wi-Fi PCP event was Europe-only... it was never mentioned on the US or Canadian english Pokemon site, while each European site (including UK English) announced it; and fans outside of Europe would only have known about it if they keep up to date on Pokemon news via the internet. North American players were able to download it thanks to the way the mystery gift "regionalisation" is set up (by language, rather than actual region). Meaning, all the SPR2010 Pichus downloaded by North Americans probably have a monocle, top hat, and speak with British accents. ;-)

A new forme?
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