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CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: October 2010)

The Outrage

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

So? What's wrong with people actually liking their innovation this time? Guess we should all hate it then? It sucks when people have to criticize everything, even when a fan is satisfied with what they do. [email protected] hassled for actually liking the new changes their bringing in. No shit I expected it, but obviously a change can go either way; good or bad, and IMO it went good. It's not like I didn't expect them to change shit up, >_>...

Oh sorry that you have to misread everything I post. I just posted the difference between the reaction then and now. If you wish to take that as me saying the fans should complain, then fine, be my guest.

My point is, why are people so amazed with basically much of the same and calling it innovation? Its stuff like that which keeps things from moving forward.

Now if you want to froth at the mouth over the innovation of 3 on 3 battles since apparently their making placement matter, and actually thought this through, then be my guest. A design shift isn't innovation. Stop calling it that. I'm not telling you to not like the new Pokemon.
@NeoKING and @Outrage: Just going to say this: Fans are hypocritical. They hate big innovation and change from a previous game and love the innovation brought to them by a new game.

Was that an attempt to take a shot at me >_>
The Magnet Train in HG/SS was pretty much to scale.

This is GEN V, and that's an AIRPLANE.

AN. AIRPLANE.

Didn't look that much to scale to me.

Yes, this is Gen V. That's an airplane. Your point? It's supposed to be to scale when Pokemon never really prided itself in its ability to put things to scale?
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

No, it's not. When I call someone out, they'll know. I'm just commenting on your earlier post regarding the Gen III changes and the feelings about them.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

I'm inclined to agree that most in-world structures/etc. in Gen V don't seem to be to scale. There's no reason to believe the plane is. The overall look of it is much more reminiscent of a relatively large commercial airliner. It doesn't look like a small plane design.
 

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No, it's not. When I call someone out, they'll know. I'm just commenting on your earlier post regarding the Gen III changes and the feelings about them.
I figure its because after a whole generation passed, the people who hated change disappeared.
 

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Oh, there's still haters in the crowd (note the people who want to see Hoenn sequels, no Hoenn ever again, and those that want to see Hoenn after Isshu in BW). But that is probably a discussion to moved to the RSEmake thread.
 

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I figure its because after a whole generation passed, the people who hated change disappeared.

Most of the hatred of the 3rd Generation stemmed from the inability to trade your Pokemon from the earlier games. As that isn't the case with Generation 5, I think some people are more willing to accept change this time around.
 

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Wait, I don't see what's so different about Triple Battles now. On the PokeBeach site, it's basically saying that your Pokemon for the Triple Battles depends on members who are in slots 1, 2, and 3 of your party. What's so great about that, it's the same exact thing for Doubles sans slot 3 -_-. Saying "the way attacks hit will change[depending on position]" is kinda vague.

I assume they mean slot 1 Pokemon will attack slot 1 opposing Pokemon only, or something like that, no cross-attacking allowed or something. That's okay, I guess, but if it's like that then it's just 3 Single Battles at once, >_>...
 

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CoroCoro just doesn't have the zing it has in the past cause it's now always information we already know. Very annoying. Back in the day CoroCoro got us new information.

What? Quite a bit of this info is all new.
 

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I assume they mean slot 1 Pokemon will attack slot 1 opposing Pokemon only, or something like that, no cross-attacking allowed or something. That's okay, I guess, but if it's like that then it's just 3 Single Battles at once, >_>...

We're not sure if that's what they mean. It's best just to wait until more details are revealed.

What? Quite a bit of this info is all new.

To be honest, we were already aware of a lot. The goth, cell, and Dragon Pokemon; triple battles; Black City and White Forest...
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

Yeah, the people who bash everything new are still here, and they're perhaps even more vocal than before. We haven't heard the last of them, either. Remember when D/P leaked and all the hate that went around? And for HG/SS as well because some things were retconned? I expect to be buried in feces flung by the fandom when all is said and done.
 

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Wait, I don't see what's so different about Triple Battles now. On the PokeBeach site, it's basically saying that your Pokemon for the Triple Battles depends on members who are in slots 1, 2, and 3 of your party. What's so great about that, it's the same exact thing for Doubles sans slot 3 -_-. Saying "the way attacks hit will change[depending on position]" is kinda vague.
How did you think that it wasn't Double Battle + 1 before and think that now? Yes, saying "the way attacks hit will change[depending on position]" is vague, but not vague enough for us to discern that it matters who is placed where, unlike double battles which don't matter who's first or second.

What's so great? It's called strategy, though I'm not expecting them to have thought that much about it.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

There's also what appears to be a map of Isshu in the new pictures.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

I believe this may be appropriate here:

HATERS_GONNA_HATE_by_Skittycat.png
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

It's shaped like a crystal. Wider than we were presented. I don't think it's the route map, though. It has eight points on it. They gyms? And the branch is the league?
 

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How did you think that it wasn't Double Battle + 1 before and think that now? Yes, saying "the way attacks hit will change[depending on position]" is vague, but not vague enough for us to discern that it matters who is placed where, unlike double battles which don't matter who's first or second.

What's so great? It's called strategy, though I'm not expecting them to have thought that much about it.

Because they obviously didn't say much to prove that it isn't Double Battle + 1. I'm well aware of what strategy is, but like I said... Ah, whatever, more waiting ensues.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

For the airplane pic that was posted a couple pages back, if it was a plane anyways... I'm willing to bet that you'll be able to fly on it, to whichever place it's supposed to go.
 

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Because they obviously didn't say much to prove that it isn't Double Battle + 1. I'm well aware of what strategy is, but like I said... Ah, whatever, more waiting ensues.

I wonder if they're talking about which attacks will hit which Mon... no, wait, you get to decide which to hit. Hmmm


Yes, more waiting... *checks watch*
I hope that the "passing by" feature means that trainers appear above-ground much how they did in Gen V underground. I'd love to be wandering around in the overworld and start a battle with a friend by walking up to them and talking to them, and seeing them move on the screen... though I doubt that that will EVER happen. :(
 

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Because they obviously didn't say much to prove that it isn't Double Battle + 1. I'm well aware of what strategy is, but like I said... Ah, whatever, more waiting ensues.

So they didn't say much, except that unlike double battles, placement matters which is actually a big thing. So now you think its DB+1 as compared to when we only knew there were 3 Pokemon on each side and you thought it wasn't.

Not following your logic because they didn't say anything that made it seem more like DB+1, whereas they gave us information that differentiated it.

Here's what you think they said:
On the PokeBeach site, it's basically saying that your Pokemon for the Triple Battles depends on members who are in slots 1, 2, and 3 of your party. What's so great about that, it's the same exact thing for Doubles sans slot 3 -_-.

Here's what they actually said:
In 3-on-3 battles, the placement and setup of your Pokemon will be important to the battle. Depending on who is in the middle and in the front of your party, the way attacks hit will change, so switching your Pokemon's positions based on battle strategy becomes the main point of triple battles.

Quite different from what you said isn't it? Position didn't matter in DB.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

I think it has something to do with something I noticed from one of Pokebeach's screens. In the battle showing the mole, it looked as if the mole is slightly in front of the other two pokes.
 

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Re: CoroCoro Discussion Thread (Current Issue: August 2010)

Quite different from what you said isn't it? Position didn't matter in DB.


Man, THAT will be hard to strategize... or maybe it just seems hard in theory.

EDIT: @Sceptile; hey, just looked at other images and noticed it was the same there too, with Miju in the middle and being closer to you than the others. Maybe it's harder for them to evade attacks, or the attacks hit harder or something?
 
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