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CoroCoro Thread (Pages are Leaking, Bewear of Spoilers!)

Falconwing

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I feel like Magearna was a really weird choice for showcasing the new generation pokemon. At least Zoroark was clearly an attempt to invoke Lucario. I don't think Diancie is popular enough for Magearna to try the same thing and succeed.

With luck we'll be seeing a few more pokemon shortly and can start to get a better appreciation for what's to come.
 

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I feel like Magearna was a really weird choice for showcasing the new generation pokemon. At least Zoroark was clearly an attempt to invoke Lucario. I don't think Diancie is popular enough for Magearna to try the same thing and succeed.

With luck we'll be seeing a few more pokemon shortly and can start to get a better appreciation for what's to come.
You could say that about almost all of the Pokemon introduced in Gen 6. I'm sure most people think of the Mega's before the actual new Pokemon since Gen 6 was so light on rememberable Pokemon.
 

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They were light on Pokémon in general, really, and only Diancie of all Generation VI Pokémon actually got a Mega - so in a way, Mega Evolution kinda stole the spotlight because several fan favourites were given new power and looks. Heck, even the mere existence of Mega Audino makes it memorable if only because it's the only Generation V Mega out there right now!
 

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You could say that about almost all of the Pokemon introduced in Gen 6. I'm sure most people think of the Mega's before the actual new Pokemon since Gen 6 was so light on rememberable Pokemon.

They were light on Pokémon in general, really, and only Diancie of all Generation VI Pokémon actually got a Mega - so in a way, Mega Evolution kinda stole the spotlight because several fan favourites were given new power and looks. Heck, even the mere existence of Mega Audino makes it memorable if only because it's the only Generation V Mega out there right now!

Agreed with both of these, they put FAR too much focus on the Mega Evolutions that there were barely any actual new Pokemon that were well remembered, since TPCi's marketing for Gen 6 barely expanded beyond the three starter Pokemon and Sylveon. Heck, even the Mega Evolutions weren't really expanded upon beyond Mega Charizard X and Mega Lucario, so it was really an overall weak generation IMO.

I really hope Gen 7 improves from the mistakes Gen 6 made, because I really thought Gen 6 was too light on new Pokemon and focused too much on Mega Evolutions.
 

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Hey, think about it this way - they don't want to use up TOO many ideas too quickly, otherwise they can't continue the series (or will have to rehash the older ideas!).
Mega Evolutions are also refreshing to bring older Pokémon back into the spotlight, especially given the power creep and evolving metagame.

The thing I wish for is that more Gen V and VI Pokémon receive them - and a couple of Generation VII ones too.

On that note, though, I doubt they'll show too many in the upcoming CoroCoro. The next 24 hours are gonna be crazy...
 

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Hey, think about it this way - they don't want to use up TOO many ideas too quickly, otherwise they can't continue the series
This is why they need to get their sh*t together and stop rushing the generations.

Generation 5, while a last minute addition to the DS era, introduced the largest amount of new pokemon to the series....EVER...it then proceeded to last only 2.5 years. Prior to Generation 6, Generation 4 introduced the least amount of Pokemon and received an era of a whopping 4 years long. Then Generation 6 came along, introduced the record breaking least amount of new species and had a longer era than Generation 5. IMO it's inconsistent and needs straightening out. They wouldn't use up all their ideas so quickly if they gave proper length eras...

Rant over sorry, I get triggered when I think of how robbed my favorite generation (5) was.
 

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Gen 5 introduced the largest amount because it was decided that the first pair of games would have no old Pokemon available. They had to substitute them with a large bulk of new Pokemon. Conversely, Gen 4 and 6 have the least because their regions included a lot of old Pokemon. Unless S/M won't have any old Pokemon, then they'll probably not introduce as many with this Gen either.

Which I guess, may as well. We're getting pretty close to having a thousand different species. It's honestly getting to a point now where it is far too many, so I can see why the numbers would diminish overtime for each additional generation. One of these years they're going to come to a point where making new ones just won't be feasible.
 
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This is why they need to get their sh*t together and stop rushing the generations.

Generation 5, while a last minute addition to the DS era, introduced the largest amount of new pokemon to the series....EVER...it then proceeded to last only 2.5 years. Prior to Generation 6, Generation 4 introduced the least amount of Pokemon and received an era of a whopping 4 years long. Then Generation 6 came along, introduced the record breaking least amount of new species and had a longer era than Generation 5. IMO it's inconsistent and needs straightening out. They wouldn't use up all their ideas so quickly if they gave proper length eras...

Rant over sorry, I get triggered when I think of how robbed my favorite generation (5) was.
i mean....generations are somewhat dependent on when new consoles are released. Gens 3 and 4 were both so long because there was a long period of space between the Advance, the DS, and the 3DS. depending on the release of SM, Gen VI will also be one of the shortest generations (being either barely longer or barely shorter than Gen V).
 

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Urgh, this wait, it's killing me.:giggle: Oh mighty Arceus, have mercy upon us.
 

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This is why they need to get their sh*t together and stop rushing the generations.

Generation 5, while a last minute addition to the DS era, introduced the largest amount of new pokemon to the series....EVER...it then proceeded to last only 2.5 years. Prior to Generation 6, Generation 4 introduced the least amount of Pokemon and received an era of a whopping 4 years long. Then Generation 6 came along, introduced the record breaking least amount of new species and had a longer era than Generation 5. IMO it's inconsistent and needs straightening out. They wouldn't use up all their ideas so quickly if they gave proper length eras...

Rant over sorry, I get triggered when I think of how robbed my favorite generation (5) was.

Really I think the only crime against Gen V was how fast the DS wifi services was shut off after the release of B2W2. It was pretty obvious that it wasn't gonna last that long since it came out so close to the 3ds. Honestly I think Gen VI got robbed the most, I don't consider XY or ORAS to be great Pokemon games. And while I love them, the Megas robbed the marketing spotlight from the Gen VI mons, some of which are my favorites.

Also a quick correction, Gen II actually held the record of least new Pokemon before Gen VI. Gen II had 100 new, while Gen IV had 107.
 

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Gen IV is still my least favorite Gen. It's still good, but the designs were all over the place and Cyrus isn't a really great villain compared to Ghetsis and Lysandre.
 

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Gen IV is my personal favorite, but not really so much for the Pokémon as for the locations, music, characters and general content. I personally liked Cyrus a lot due to his scarily cold attitude, but Ghetsis is definitely my second favorite along with all of Gen V. And to be fair, if it weren't for nostalgia, gen V probably would be the number one for me, but I can't argue with the teary eyes I get when I hear Eterna City's music.

The lack of Pokemon is definitely the least of my problems with generation 6. I am much much more bothered by:

The incredibly low difficulty. Pokemon games need at least some difficulty. If you can just sweep everything it quickly devolves into an open world Cookie Clicker. Difficulty options are a must for Gen 7.

The incredibly dull companions. I've always liked Barry in gen 4 because in spite of him being an annoying brat, he stays consistent in being so and shows real passion. The gen 6 characters come across as extremely forced. Tierno dances to dance, Trevor acts smart because he acts smart, Shauna is just borderline annoying and the rival just seems incredibly bland. 'I will defeat you, haaaa' 'You have bested me, oh no, but I will be back'. And let's not forget 'I want to beat you because you're my friend'. The worst part is that they would come and hold your hand every 5 seconds while you're just trying to go do something.

The locations are also very dull to me. A lot of the game has the same color scheme, and every town feels like just a town and every city like just a city. The only really memorable part is Lumiose and that's mostly because the game quite literally revolves around it. I don't want to remember Lumiose eithe because its camera is painful and the music seems very generic and annoys me to no end.

And now for my worst gripe of all, the music. It's not all actually bad, but there are very very few memorable pieces. Pretty much the only noteworthy things I have heard were the legendary theme and the part almost a full minute into Laverre where it suddenly gets all emotional. The rest is pretty bland in composition and especially the trainer battle theme annoys me. But what really absolutely ruined it was the mixing. The drums are cheap background objects with zero punch, any and all brass and guitars are incredibly tinny and sound like they were put through a short 100% wet reverb. The entire soundtrack is missing clean and pure centered tones and is all washed out. ORAS screwed up here as well. It sounds as if they wanted to extremely badly show off 'we can do sound in 3D as well'. As an audio engineer, the music in Gen 6 angers me to a ridiculous level, and listening to Battle Revolution's OST and knowing what kind of quality there could've been, seeing as it's all audio files anyways, makes me incredibly sad. The last nail in the coffin for by far the least memorable generation to me.

A couple of other gripes: The story's pacing is horrid, with almost no story at all up to the giant exposition dump after Gym 7. The textures on Pokemon, even for a 3DS game, are extremely low res and washed out, as if every detail was chalked on. Yet the game lags because all models are unnecessarily detailed for the 240p screen of the 3DS. I strongly dislike the lack of postgame content, and the game in general just doesn't feel like it has much replay value because it's all so unremarkable. ORAS was also a large disappointment to me, because in spite of the new features which are all pretty cool, the difficulty is once again ridiculously low, legendaries are just thrown at you and the entire game feels like it has a whole lot more show than go.

If GameFreak can improve on these areas in Gen 7 and not screw up hugely in another way, I'm sold. If not, I'm probably still sold because I'm a terrible consumer and don't want to miss out on a Pokemon game.
 

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This is why they need to get their sh*t together and stop rushing the generations.

Generation 5, while a last minute addition to the DS era, introduced the largest amount of new pokemon to the series....EVER...it then proceeded to last only 2.5 years. Prior to Generation 6, Generation 4 introduced the least amount of Pokemon and received an era of a whopping 4 years long. Then Generation 6 came along, introduced the record breaking least amount of new species and had a longer era than Generation 5. IMO it's inconsistent and needs straightening out. They wouldn't use up all their ideas so quickly if they gave proper length eras...

Rant over sorry, I get triggered when I think of how robbed my favorite generation (5) was.

i mean....generations are somewhat dependent on when new consoles are released. Gens 3 and 4 were both so long because there was a long period of space between the Advance, the DS, and the 3DS. depending on the release of SM, Gen VI will also be one of the shortest generations (being either barely longer or barely shorter than Gen V).


I wrote a long detailed explanation on this below, but because it's off topic, I put it in a spoiler tag:

The timing all got off because the DS's lifetime was longer than previous handheld consoles (excluding the original GB, but RB were released at the end of its lifetime), but not by much. If it was longer by 2-3 years more, or shorter by the same amount, I'd expect everything to be okay right now.
BW were the first games ever to be released on the same console as their previous generation, as they were stuck in an awkward position; too early for the next generation, but too late for the current one.
The 3DS got released in 2011, so they probably would've been able to have a 3DS Pokemon game out by late 2012 if they had focused all their developement strength between early 2010 (around when they got their dev kits, IIRC) and 2012, but instead, we know they were working on finishing BW and also making B2W2. They weren't gonna cut Gen V that short, and so we ended up getting XY two years after the 3DS was released.

Mind you, by this time the reason they aren't "off time" at this point is that: DP also came out two years after the DS was released (GS was released a year after the GBC, and RS were released about a year after the GBA too). So really it was DP that caused the delay (as Gen III was long since the GBA lasted a short amount of time (The GBC did too, but we got two sets of games in Gen II, while we got three "sets" in Gen III), but, the difference is that for all these previous examples, there was one generation of Pokemon on each console, whereas on the DS they managed to put in two, because it's crazy success made them want to keep it on the market longer (and may also be one reason why it got more "versions", Lite, i, iXL, than previous models. (*Note: I count the GB, GBC, and GBA as different generations of handhelds, despite the brand name)). So the DS era was able to take the blow of getting a Pokemon game two years after the console. However, as we know, the 3DS has not been as successful. Looking at JP release dates (as I have been this whole time), the DS lasted about seven years. If the 3DS were to last that long, that would mean we'd be getting a new handheld in 2018. That's definitely too far off; I'd expect one next year, or perhaps more likely, the merging of the handheld and the console in the NX (which is not confirmed yet, of course). We could be getting the NX this year. Anyway, so now Gen VII is in the position that BW were, and unfortunately this means this generation could be short too. I would be fine with that, as people have said, Gen I and II were also 3 years, except this would be three 3-year generations in a row, which doesn't bode well with me in terms of how fast I want them to develop new Pokemon and design new regions, etc.
Still, there's hope that they'll elongate Gen VII, but there's something weird that could happen with that: if Gen VII is 4 years, then Gen VIII would come out exactly one year before the 25th Anniversary. Now I'd expect them to hype that as well, but there would be more hype if the anniversary was on the same year as a new gen (an argument similar to this could also be made for our current situation). But, even if Gen VII is 3 years, then Gen VIII would be 2 years...? And then Gen IX would be the 25th Anniversary? That doesn't work either. They could just not do a 25th Anniversary Gen, but I'd expect them too....
I'll stop now since I've gone way too far ahead.

(allow any spelling mistakes etc, and correct me if I made factual errors, via PM preferably cuz this if off topic)


Because it's really early morning right now in Japan, should we not expect news to come out until about 6 more hours have passed (around afternoon)? Or is there still hope for the next hour or two?
 
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They mentioned last month that this month's issue would begin coverage on SM. So we have to get something relating to those games.
magearnas typing and confirming its an event pokemon to be distributed to sun and moon.

and thats probably it
 

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For me, Gen VI was really special because Mega had changed everything that I knew about Pokemon. It had opened up a whole new world. I felt as if human suddenly discovered a gate to another universe. ORAS made it even further with Primal Reversion so now I can speculate on new similar mechanics instead of just Mega. It's like after you crossed into another universe, you start to ask yourself, "are there more out there, or it is just these two?"
 

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He explains about how Corocoro leaks and official release works. ;)

Corocoro leaks should be coming very soon. :)
 
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The incredibly low difficulty. Pokemon games need at least some difficulty. If you can just sweep everything it quickly devolves into an open world Cookie Clicker. Difficulty options are a must for Gen 7.
well....you are, i assume, an adult. AI improvements (which can only go so far before they become overbearing) aside, there's really no way to uniformly improve the difficulty of Pokemon. too many variables.
 
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