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BULBAPEDIA: Do the species pages need "(Pokémon)" in the title?

Discussion in 'Bulbawiki Forum' started by SeanWheeler, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. SeanWheeler

    SeanWheeler Member

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    I think the species pages would be much better without the "(Pokémon)" disambig tag. Since Bulbapedia is a Pokémon site, it's very obvious that the articles are about Pokémon, so it just feels very redundant. Take Golem for example. Outside of the context of Pokémon, a golem could be a mythical rock monster, but when you look it up on Bulbapedia, you're obviously looking for the Pokémon that Graveller evolves into that looks like a rock turtle. Pikachu is synonymous with Pokémon so it doesn't really need "(Pokémon)" in its page title. The more famous Pikachu, Ash's Pikachu is a separate page, but it is listed in the "Pikachu (disambiguation)" page, and that disambiguation page is linked on the top of the species article. Every Pokémon with major members of their species have disambiguation pages and typing the name by itself would redirect to the species page. I find myself searching the Pokémon name by itself because adding "(Pokémon)" just makes it longer to type, especially with the é requiring a special alt code to type. A long time ago, the names by themselves were disambiguation pages, but now the disambiguation pages have "(disambiguation)" in their names while the former titles redirect to the species, because of people using the names to search for the species. And some Pokémon like Bellsprout don't even have disambiguation pages, making it seem even more redundant to have their pages to have something in parenthesis. I think the page titles would look better without the franchise name.
     
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    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    Doesn’t searching for the species name without (Pokémon) redirect you to its page anyway? You don’t need to type (Pokémon) after the species name in the search bar.
     
  3. SeanWheeler

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    True, but I like to type the page name accurately.
     
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    Force Fire Bulbapedia Administrator

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    They're remnants from when the "<pokemon name>" articles redirected to the disambiguation pages and not the "<name> (Pokémon)" articles. That was changed years ago and now they all redirect to the species article and not the disambig. The reason why we still have it at the <name> (Pokémon) title, is because we would not only have to move over 800 pages, but re-link thousands of thousands of articles. Which is something we are not going to be taking the time and effort to do.
     
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  5. SeanWheeler

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    Okay, so the moving and relinking process could take months. But "Pikachu (Pokémon)" could still redirect to Pikachu and you can use bots to fix links. And it would be better to make the change now before the next games add more Pokémon.
     
  6. PkmnTrainerV

    PkmnTrainerV Flame Trainer

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    So you actually want a Bulbapedia wide extensive change just because you "like to type the page name accurately"?

    I fail to see how is this an issue when typing 'Pikachu' or 'Pikachu (Pokémon)' in the search bar lands you on the exact same page.
     
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    Force Fire Bulbapedia Administrator

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    No. It'll probably take more than a few months, maybe a year, and might involve a site wide lockdown. And there's already too many Pokémon to make the change. We're not talking about just the 800 odd Pokémon pages, we're talking about literally every page on the wiki, since every single one uses the "name (Pokémon)" link. It's never happening.
     
  8. SeanWheeler

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    Okay, then.
     
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