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Do you think Sun and Moon is a critical and financial failure?

I think I peaked here tbh
Sep 19, 2009
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Critical and financial failure, absolutely not. But it definitely had a lot of shortcomings. I liked the vibe of the region, a lot of the new Pokémon, and the concept of regional variants, but I never want to play through the story again. The narrative itself was strong for a Pokémon game, but getting stopped every two seconds for some asinine reason really brought the enjoyment down for me. Sword and Shield are pretty much the opposite - weak story, but much less handholding. I wish Game Freak could find a way to balance that.
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Mar 1, 2020
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I think those games were a financial success but a critical failure. I've seen more complaints about them than I have praise for them.