And TPCi's dub has the exact same problems by now in terms of writing, even if they didn't take as many liberties at random intervals, so please explain why, in any way, I should like it more they either have the license/dub rights now? 4Kids frankly had some shockingly good moments with the writing, especially given the fact I've read compares where 4Kids didn't change much of the script at all in later seasons or Movies compared to these earlier ones: doesn't help TPCi's music replacing has literally been worse than anything 4Kids did since late BW began to now, on top of their writing absolutely being flawed in its own way, too. I frankly feel the writing does get a little better for 4Kids' dub in later sagas, they don't take nearly as many liberties and at points, they barely change anything in some episodes. I admit that it was of course far from perfect, but I didn't find their writing style impossible to stomach, either, unlike what we have to deal with now.
He's just stuttering most likely trying to explain their stance, which I feel is somewhat alright: he seemed like a nice enough guy with this Series imo, despite lacking knowledge at times.Is it me or does Michael Haigney fumble his words a lot?
I agree 100% with you: that was far too overly harsh, especially considering Haigney never said their work was explicitly better per se (unlike the current dub writer), just explained what their thought process was in their writing style.
Yeah, I never said I liked the TPCi dub more. When I said I wanted a competent company, I meant someone like Funimation who actually respects what the original Japanese creators make. Also, the only reason why the script fared slightly better in later seasons is because 4Kids likely told the Japanese producers to cut down on the cultural references. I've given up on the dub entirely at this point due to the script rewrites and music replacement policy at TPCi, so I don't get where "anyone who criticizes the 4Kids dub must be a fan of the TPCi dub" comes from. If you read some of Dogasu's DP comparisons, you'll clearly see he's just as critical of the liberties they made as he is of 4Kids' changes.
Modern day FUNimation would improve the dub for sure, but I'm kind of glad 4Kids started out dubbing it, because early on FUNimation was terrible with Dragonball Z at the start and GT too: we would've kept none of the OST and the script would've honestly been even worse, also the intros would've been worse too, so I think the 4Kids dub did have some merit to it, despite its flaws, that it should be given some credit for. It at the very least helped popularize the Series overseas, and I even recall it being shown in kids to Japan in a "Pokemon De English" segment at one point, so I can't say I found it too bad, personally: it wasn't the greatest dub or anything, but I could at least take it for what it was.
Sadly, I doubt it, they pretty much own the rights in the Western World to the dubbing by now.
Actually it's one of their better box office performances.
Isn't DuArt dubbing the show now?
TAJ dubbed it for the first two seasons of TPCi's dub, and DuArt since Season 11 to this day.
According to their page about Localization Production, they are responsible for:
