Dogasu's Backpack Discussion

[Hidden Mew]

See, for me, I'd be surprised if we didn't get the regional evil (well, in Yell's case maybe "antagonistic" is a better word) group since, well, we've gotten every single main series group so far. It would just be too weird if the Yell-Dan got zero representation in the main series.

That's true. It just seems like it would be harder to incorporate Team Yell in the anime if they don't include Marnie. They could write around cheering her on for the Galar Gym Challenge fairly well if they have her taking part in the PWC instead, but I don't see Marnie being in the anime. It wouldn't be impossible, especially when the anime tends to introduce some of the video game rivals fairly late, if at all, but when they already have Morpeko without including Marnie, it just seems less likely.

I mean...I'm sitting right here y'know

Sorry about that. I'm just used to seeing a headline on Serebii's homepage every year after the newest movie comes out in Japan, but I noticed that didn't happen in December.

Toho wouldn't have known about the box office decline on Day One. The decision to not have a trailer at the end of Movie 23 is most likely a case of OLM / Toho just not being sure when they'll be able to release a new movie more than anything else. Everything's too unpredictable now. A July 2021 release, at this point, is highly unlikely, and we're now seeing from Movie 23's box office performance that December wouldn't really work out either.

I chalk up the lack of buzz online about the film to 1) the longer than usual promotion period (532 days!) and so people just got sick of hearing about it, and 2) the fact that Japan's borders being closed right now means that the only English speakers able to watch this movie (and therefore report on it) are those of us who were already in the country when COVID started.

I wonder if they'll save the movie for the fall instead. I assume that part of the problem for the December box office performance was Demon Slayer being such a massive hit, but the competition might be rough regardless for that month. I don't know if fall will be any better for theaters though.

 

[Daren]

To be honest the prediction that Takuto/Tobias is going to reappear was the one that surprised me the most (second place was DP sequels).
The only league kickers I can really see reappearing are Ritchie and Alain, since they had more story importance than just being there to knock Ash out of the league, and I'd still put the odds pretty long on either (a bit higher for Ritchie since he's from the glorious land of Kanto).
But if you asked me in the past I'd have said that Ash would never get an old region Pokémon that didn't have a new evolution or get a Dragonite or similar tier Pokémon in the first dozen episodes so who knows? This series torched the rule book and is laughing maniacally over it.

 

[Antiyonder]

No, really. Why were aspects of Japan present in the anime deemed problematic?

So I'm the least picky when it comes to the Dub and still enjoy it a lot (I'd still be happy to regularly consume the original if it ever got the Subbed Toku treatment:)), but yeah the downplaying of Japanese culture really doesn't make sense. The show isn't some super realistic slice of life...

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Basically took my previously stated opinions on trying to hide Japanese culture so that it would be the focus of the thread.

And yeah, even then my point was missed:-(.

I was 16 going on 17 when the dub premiered and finally watched it often when I was 17. Had 4Kids not made the changes in question and I lacked internet access?

I'd probably just figure that riceballs or the Hinamatsuri festival were akin to MLP's Zap Apple Jam or species like breezies.

You know that they were made for the Pokémon world just like Pokéballs, TMs/HMs and so on.

Then I'd learn they actually existed. You know rather than assuming they were conceived by the Anti-Christ:-D.

 

[MizuTaipu]

Another great comparison. This episode is easily the best filler of the Orange Islands arc.

People don't criticize 4Kids and TCPi for ruining moments of silence enough; I see people raise a stink only when they replace arrangements of BGM from the games. Silence is a great tool for creating atmosphere and makes the anime feel more natural and it's a shame they just do away with it.

 

[Antiyonder]

I mean, who cares if the Boss of Team Rocket, who I've never met before, helps release these dangerous criminals back onto the streets again? No biggee LOL!

As long as they aren't on the receiving end of their schemes (right away), not their problem, right?

I mean when Ace Trainer Liam gets to this on WTF Moments he might respond with "That's not very protagonisty".

 

[Insanish Danish]

Aaaaaa this comparison made me so happy, this is one of my absolute favorite episodes and I've been a Butch and Cassidy stan since I was like...15 lol, so reading anything about them at all is always a delight. <3 Shame they're so much cooler in the original than in the dub (Butch's dub voice is, as has been discussed, not good, and I think Cassidy's dub voice just doesn't suit her), but oh well.

 

[ii kanji]

That episode is easily one of my favourites in the whole series so I was so happy to read the comparison! Also so glad you covered the 'Mata-chan, Bero-chan' thing which has been bugging me for years But also officially sets loose a whole river of potential headcanons about Musashi being a loving mummy to Matadogas off-camera...

 

[Yami-no-Game]

The new episode comparison reminded me of how hypocritical the Rocket duo were in that episode. They were depressed about having their Pokemon stolen even though they'd been trying to steal Ash and co's Pokemon for over 80 episodes....

You'd think that them going through the same experience in Pikachu Re-Volts would've made them a little more compassionate but of course any potential development never happened. :/