But it's not the same people complaining about both issues (at least I think. If it is, then yeah, that is kind of dumb)I find it hilarious that first people were COMPLAINING that Dawn caught Buizel instead of Ash, and now they're COMPLAINING *again* that Dawn is now trading Buizel with Ash.
Did you read my thread? I don't want to repeat myself for the 4365436 time -_-That might actually happen, but I bet that their Pokemon would want to be back with their original trainers. Like I said earlier, Aipom loves Ash. It wouldn't want to leave him just so it can enter contests. That's why it always steal his hat. It's because it likes him, not Dawn.
That trade is what made Ash against trades. For 10 years he was against trades. Why should he be for it now?
I'm sure I also explained this in my thread... this obviously won't be a simple case of "hey want to trade?!" "sure!" but they'll talk with their Pokémon and decide together what to doWhat makes any of you think that they'll accept this trade, like nothing ever happened. If possible, Aipom and Buizel might be a little hesitant about adapting to their new trainers, especially if the trainers themselves are a little uncomfortable.
Whether they'll trade or not Aipom can still like Ash (and at the same time can also like Dawn) and still take Ash's hatI would prefer Aipom staying with Ash in the end, because it likes to take his hat away and stuff.
I hope to see it in a contest tooI just want to see Buizel in a Contest and see how it does.
It's so in character for Ash to force Aipom not to do contests!Ash is not going to trade aipom as Aipom adores Ash so no way there gonna trade, its probly gonna be a battle episode
Ash not trading away Aipom =/= not letting her do contests, though I do see what you're getting at.It's so in character for Ash to force Aipom not to do contests!
Melissa/Fantina. Suffice it to say, if Zoey's around for when she finally appears, her reaction to that particular gym leader should be interesting to see.Possible that what-her-name from Hearthrome Gym will make a cameo and further instruct Ash/Dawn.
But Ash clearly said to Kenny he won't enter more contests... and just like how Dawn doesn't steal his spotlight in gyms he shouldn't do that to her on contestsAsh not trading away Aipom =/= not letting her do contests
Maybe if from the beginning it already know Ash do gyms and May contests it'd go with May? It likes Ash but it'll still be with him and the only difference will be that it'll be able to do contestsAipom let herself get caught (or followed him around due to affection and eventually let him battle her in order to get caught, whatever sounds better) by Ash, so obviously she wouldn't let herself get traded away so easily. It's just a matter of whether she prefers contests over Ash or not, which for the tme being is kinda hard to define. Then again, if she really did prefer contests over him, I doubt she would've been with him for this long.
And we should count that whole Lucian episode as a hint... also I think the new summaries clearly say that Buizel prefers battles than contestsbut it's not like it showed anything of the opposite either, like showing great interest in Ash's battles (then again, has it ever gotten the chance for that? I don't recall, but the writers should've given it such chances to build up for the trade more obviously. Meh) or such like that. Only that one battle the E4 member had on TV.
And thats exactly the reason to why they'll trade instead of lending them (and Ash also seems to not like using others' Pokémon)Not to mention how Dawn has shown great dislike about lending Pokémon of one another
Probably because that's too far in the past. There's virtually no reason to bring up a Hoenn Gym leader in D/P. I can see why the writers wouldn't do that, or perhaps they might not even remember.Side Note: Has anyone noticed that Ash has to yet to bring up his gym battle against *Top Coordinator* Juan of Sootopolis City in his conversations with Zoey? Now that I think about it, that strikes me as odd(given that she's repeatedly claimed that contest competition and gym battling are completely different realms, and that seemingly no one has dared try to counter that argument).
I totally agree. This is currently my main reason for disliking this situation, because it makes some of the previous Dawn/Buizel episodes pointless. Having a trade totally ruins what was cool about the capture episode (they built it up like Ash was going to catch it...then it went to Dawn. Now they're just going to give it to Ash anyway?), it makes the Lucian episode pointless (why create an entire episode devoted to teaching Dawn how to control Buizel if it's just going to be traded before it even gets to enter a contest?), and it also makes the training Buizel recieved in the double performance episode useless. Did the writers just throw these things in as "Red Herrings" to confuse us, or was it just poor writing? Couldn't they at least wait to let her use it in ONE contest? Or maybe have the trade occur in late Shinou, or maybe in the filler saga.but it'd be a shame for Buizel to go to Ash after Dawn put forth the most effort to catch it. It seemed pretty set to be her battling round Pokemon, too.
Check my thread to see the list of hintsAnd thus we see the conclusion to all the "hints" of a trade, including...Aipom liking contests and Buizel being more of a battler? And...and...wait, what other "evidence" was there?
We shouldn't care for the types (that won't really make THAT big difference) if he get Pokémon in new interesting ways that we didn't see before like catch a Pokémon released by his rival and main characters tradingAnd also thus, all hope of Ash getting anything resembling a unique team this region is lost. Huzzah for the mundane! I suppose that opens up his "filler Pokemon" slot for something new, at least.
It's not only the fact this is the first main characters' trade but also all the development that is going to be after the tradeThe sad thing is, I bet the writers think that having TWO MAIN CHARACTERS TRADE POKEMON will be an amazing novelty for the audience. Meh, give me Ash with a Magnezone or something any day.
Ash also really wanted it though... and Dawn obviously will want to best for her Pokémon as proved when she released PachirisuNot that we really see Aipom enough for me to care about what happens to it, but it'd be a shame for Buizel to go to Ash after Dawn put forth the most effort to catch it.
Despite how contest battle style confused it? despite how it's battle style is MUCH better suited for gyms? it was obvious they'll trade from the moment she catch itIt seemed pretty set to be her battling round Pokemon, too.
What do you mean? she'll use all of her Pokémon for both rounds obviouslyI wonder what she'll end up using instead of it?
Again that was an obvious hint of the trade... the writers made it clear they'll trade and some decided to believe the hints but some others just can't accept this and ignore all of those hintsHaving a trade totally ruins what was cool about the capture episode (they built it up like Ash was going to catch it...then it went to Dawn. Now they're just going to give it to Ash anyway?)
This episode might only bring the idea of a trade and they'll trade later so hopefully we'll get to see it in a contest before they'll tradeit makes the Lucian episode pointless (why create an entire episode devoted to teaching Dawn how to control Buizel if it's just going to be traded before it even gets to enter a contest?)
If they'll trade later and not in 55 than she might use Buneary/Buizel with the Aqua Jet + Ice Beam combination in Hearthome's next contest (if there is)and it also makes the training Buizel recieved in the double performance episode useless.
"poor writing"? call that how must of the other Pokémon were caughtDid the writers just throw these things in as "Red Herrings" to confuse us, or was it just poor writing?
On that I must agree... hopefully they'll do it like I wanted and they'll trade only when they'll be done with Hearthome with the suggestion of FantinaCouldn't they at least wait to let her use it in ONE contest?
I think Sushi said the summary confirms Buizel prefers regular/gym battles than contest battlesThey havn't established for it a dislike of "contest battles" yet.
No breaksand there might be more evil breaks