Speculation Gen 9 Predictions (Development predictions, New Regions, Version names)

[Sheep40]

They could do some interesting stuff with former USSR control, although they would have to make the team "not politicial".
Belarus could be cool.

My idea was punks vs goths or metalheads vs rappers, with the real antagonists just being a bunch of regular trainers motivated by nostalgia gone wrong (which is fairly universal). Also, corrupt pokemon league (which could be done anywhere).

Also, Baltic sea or Finland. Romania too.

 

[El Squibbonator]

If we have a villainous team motivated by "nostalgia gone wrong", they should all use Gen 1 Pokemon only.

 

[Sheep40]

No. The reasons for this are rather complex. But rest assured they would have a better payoff.

First, the game's art style is a direct throwback to GENs III-V. The human characters, Pokemon, and just general art are deliberate throwbacks. There are throwbacks to GEN I, but those are less obvious.

Second is the story and the themes: a metafictional acknowledgement of pokemon's ability to impact a person's childhood, the games have themes of identity, death, and to a limited degree existentialism. In a more literal sense, it actually takes place in the original timeline from RBY-B2W2 and the climax of the game sees that timeline destroyed. the postgame takes place in the XY-current timeline.

Thirdly, genwunners are actually the most infamous manifestation of a phenomenon that actually affects every pokemon generation to some degree, and are in a lot of ways a stereotype in contemporary times. Most fanhaters these days use III-V as (incorrect) measuring sticks.

Fourthly, basing it around early 2000's/early 2010's nostalgia helps distance it from communism, which was still very much in living memory when RBY released. Also, the 90's are not looked on with much nostalgia in that part of the world for obvious reasons.

Fifthly, this time period is largely where pokemon as it is known today developed. Helps with the whole subversion thing.

Sixthly, these trainers are basically pokemon's equivalent of monolith from s.t.a.l.k.e.r, the only exception is instead of being brainwashed they instead are attempting to stave off the consequences of faustian wishes they made to the monolith (which in this case is an imprisoned form of the boxart legendary) by effectively using the XY timeline as a timeline equivalent of a sin-eater; their leader's wish is the very reason the original timeline still exists. Their leader is the "nice" (as in chooses the starter weak to yours) rival, though he/she (it's selectable) reveals his/her true colors in due time.

 

[nickdt]

You're right. It's from a 2016 plush set called Pikachu Around the World.

Yeah, but that raises the question though

Why put in that Dutch one. Doesn't a German, Spanish or Italian one make more sense, cuz the Netherlands borders the UK by sea. Germany, Italy and Spain all have more inhabitants than the Netherlands.

I don't think a Dutch region isn't as farfetch'd as it sounds though, since we also need to take into account the history between the Dutch and the Japanese (Just like there is history between GB and Japan). I think a Netherlands region is more likely than any other European region at this point. Not only because of that plushie (Again, why the Netherlands, why not Spain or Italy, which would be much more interesting countries to get a plushie). But then again, the history thing comes into play.

Like, you can make Florges regional Variants based on Tulip colours. Deep Blue doesn't exist. Purple does. There are also Black Tulips. One of them was created by cross-breeding 2 Purple ones.

So the Purple Flower Florges can replace the Blue Flower Florges. Then they can make a rare Florges Variant, the Black Flower Florges, which you can only obtain by levelling up 2 Purple Flower Flabebe's in your party and both of them then combine into one Black Flower Flabebe.

 

[Oriden]

Yeah, but that raises the question though

Why put in that Dutch one. Doesn't a German, Spanish or Italian one make more sense, cuz the Netherlands borders the UK by sea. Germany, Italy and Spain all have more inhabitants than the Netherlands.

I don't think a Dutch region isn't as farfetch'd as it sounds though, since we also need to take into account the history between the Dutch and the Japanese (Just like there is history between GB and Japan). I think a Netherlands region is more likely than any other European region at this point. Not only because of that plushie (Again, why the Netherlands, why not Spain or Italy, which would be much more interesting countries to get a plushie). But then again, the history thing comes into play.

Like, you can make Florges regional Variants based on Tulip colours. Deep Blue doesn't exist. Purple does. There are also Black Tulips. One of them was created by cross-breeding 2 Purple ones.

So the Purple Flower Florges can replace the Blue Flower Florges. Then they can make a rare Florges Variant, the Black Flower Florges, which you can only obtain by levelling up 2 Purple Flower Flabebe's in your party and both of them then combine into one Black Flower Flabebe.

I think people are focusing too much on that Dutch Pikachu and blatantly ignoring the fact that there's a Chinese one right there in the set as well. If they were supposed to be hints at upcoming regions, where's French and Hawaiian Pikachu?

Who knows what the significance of those countries really is, but it's kind of rude to imply that Netherlands isn't interesting enough to deserve a plushie, especially in favor of two overdone places such as Italy and Spain.

 

[nickdt]

I think people are focusing too much on that Dutch Pikachu and blatantly ignoring the fact that there's a Chinese one right there in the set as well. If they were supposed to be hints at upcoming regions, where's French and Hawaiian Pikachu?

Who knows what the significance of those countries really is, but it's kind of rude to imply that Netherlands isn't interesting enough to deserve a plushie, especially in favor of two overdone places such as Italy and Spain.

The picture Masuda tweeted has had a Dutch one alongside Unova, GB, Japan and Kalos. But the Chinese one was missing there.

However, i am not saying Gen 9 is gonna be the Netherlands (Seriously doubt that, although Gamefreak could have visited the Netherlands after GB considering they are neighbours) but i do think Netherlands is the next European region. I think China or Australia are next (Preferably Australia, due to it being a continent we haven't visited yet).

 

[Bigfoot_the_Pokémon]

I seriously want to say "G'day, mate" to everyone I come across

 

[Oriden]

The picture Masuda tweeted has had a Dutch one alongside Unova, GB, Japan and Kalos. But the Chinese one was missing there.

However, i am not saying Gen 9 is gonna be the Netherlands (Seriously doubt that, although Gamefreak could have visited the Netherlands after GB considering they are neighbours) but i do think Netherlands is the next European region. I think China or Australia are next (Preferably Australia, due to it being a continent we haven't visited yet).

Might want to look again. The China one is right there.

 

[Bolt Strike]

Sooo, new topic related to Gen 9. What from Legends Arceus do you think will carry over to Gen 9 (to clarify, I mean the debut games of Gen 9 like what SwSh are to Gen 8, not a second Legends game in Gen 9)? LA's gameplay changes are revolutionary and well accepted so I think some of these features may end up being permanent changes to the formula, but they'll probably want to keep some of them exclusive so they can keep Legends going as a running subseries.

So here's what I think might stay for Gen 9:

-The EL system. It's so much more simplistic and accessible than EVs and IVs that I can't see them wanting to go back. There is an issue with having to convert old EVs and IVs to ELs, but they're no stranger to doing this in transfers (see: VC games to Gen 7)
-Strong Style/Agile Style. Everyone's been waiting for a shakeup to the battling like this for a while. Additionally, some of the new Hisuian evolutions use the Strong/Agile style system for their evolution methods, so they'll need to include this or else come up with something else in any future game those Pokemon appear in. It does sort of take the uniqueness out of battling away from LA, but I think future Legends games can go real time battling to compensate.
-Allowing you to switch movesets in the Pokemon menu without needing a Move Reminder. Major QoL improvement here.
-Seamless overworld battles. Just makes the games feel much more realistic by having them take place in the overworld instead of some random field that feels like it's in another dimension. I don't think anything else about the overworld battles such as being able to throw Poke Balls from the overworld to battle or Pokemon attacking the trainer will carryover, these mechanics make the game feel more like an ARPG and that could cannibalize future Legends games, but seamless overworld battles should stay.

 

[Oriden]

For the record, and I guess any other plush-based guesses as to what the next region will be, the plush featured next to Masuda in the photo are...

Top Shelf

• Pikachu Around the World British / London Guard Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Netherlands Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Chinese / Kung Fu Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World American / Liberty Pikachu
• Nagoya Pokemon Center 10th Anniversary Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Japanese / Kabuki Pikachu
• 2017 World Championships Anaheim, CA Pikachu

Bottom Shelf

• Kyoto Pokemon Center Grand Opening Okuge-sama (Court Noble) Pikachu
• Kyoto Pokemon Center Grand Opening Maiko (Apprentice Geisha) Pikachu
• Sapporo Pokemon Center Renewal Opening Snow Festival / William S. Clark Pikachu
• 2018 World Championships Nashville Pikachu
• 2014 World Championships Washington D.C. Pikachu
• 2013 World Championships Vancouver Pikachu
• 2016 World Championships San Francisco Meowth

 

[nickdt]

For the record, and I guess any other plush-based guesses as to what the next region will be, the plush featured next to Masuda in the photo are...

Top Shelf

• Pikachu Around the World British / London Guard Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Netherlands Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Chinese / Kung Fu Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World American / Liberty Pikachu
• Nagoya Pokemon Center 10th Anniversary Pikachu
• Pikachu Around the World Japanese / Kabuki Pikachu
• 2017 World Championships Anaheim, CA Pikachu

Bottom Shelf

• Kyoto Pokemon Center Grand Opening Okuge-sama (Court Noble) Pikachu
• Kyoto Pokemon Center Grand Opening Maiko (Apprentice Geisha) Pikachu
• Sapporo Pokemon Center Renewal Opening Snow Festival / William S. Clark Pikachu
• 2018 World Championships Nashville Pikachu
• 2014 World Championships Washington D.C. Pikachu
• 2013 World Championships Vancouver Pikachu
• 2016 World Championships San Francisco Meowth

So i guess China next then, California for gen 10 and then Netherlands for gen 11.

 

[Oriden]

So i guess China next then, California for gen 10 and then Netherlands for gen 11.

I can't wait for the region based on Nashville.

 

[Bigfoot_the_Pokémon]

Sooo, new topic related to Gen 9. What from Legends Arceus do you think will carry over to Gen 9 (to clarify, I mean the debut games of Gen 9 like what SwSh are to Gen 8, not a second Legends game in Gen 9)? LA's gameplay changes are revolutionary and well accepted so I think some of these features may end up being permanent changes to the formula, but they'll probably want to keep some of them exclusive so they can keep Legends going as a running subseries.

So here's what I think might stay for Gen 9:

-The EL system. It's so much more simplistic and accessible than EVs and IVs that I can't see them wanting to go back. There is an issue with having to convert old EVs and IVs to ELs, but they're no stranger to doing this in transfers (see: VC games to Gen 7)
-Strong Style/Agile Style. Everyone's been waiting for a shakeup to the battling like this for a while. Additionally, some of the new Hisuian evolutions use the Strong/Agile style system for their evolution methods, so they'll need to include this or else come up with something else in any future game those Pokemon appear in. It does sort of take the uniqueness out of battling away from LA, but I think future Legends games can go real time battling to compensate.
-Allowing you to switch movesets in the Pokemon menu without needing a Move Reminder. Major QoL improvement here.
-Seamless overworld battles. Just makes the games feel much more realistic by having them take place in the overworld instead of some random field that feels like it's in another dimension. I don't think anything else about the overworld battles such as being able to throw Poke Balls from the overworld to battle or Pokemon attacking the trainer will carryover, these mechanics make the game feel more like an ARPG and that could cannibalize future Legends games, but seamless overworld battles should stay.

I want Arceus' open world. I know it's not a true open world, but I want a true one

 

[Sheep40]

Is there any kind of item similar to the tiki idol from xy in legends arceus?

 

[takoyaki]

Is there any kind of item similar to the tiki idol from xy in legends arceus?

Is there something similar to that Tiki statue in XY that points to the next generation?

Not sure. I doubt GF would put in something pointing to a new gen in a filename but it could be in the game somehow. If people find it, they will.

 

[prog rocker]

Is there any kind of item similar to the tiki idol from xy in legends arceus?

I doubt it, considering that nothing of the sort has been brought up anywhere. In fact, I think the Tiki thing might have been a one off, like they planned doing Alola from earlier than most other gens.

 

[Oriden]

I think if there's a hint in any of the games, it's probably as subtle as the blue and yellow cushions in ORAS, in which case no one will find it until after the fact.

 

[prog rocker]

I think if there's a hint in any of the games, it's probably as subtle as the blue and yellow cushions in ORAS, in which case no one will find it until after the fact.

What cushions?

 

[Oriden]

What cushions?

These ones-

They're Sun and Moon's signature colors. There's also a palm tree there, I'm noticing. The Sun/Moon tease was strong with this one.

 

[prog rocker]

These ones-

They're Sun and Moon's signature colors. There's also a palm tree there, I'm noticing. The Sun/Moon tease was strong with this one.

I think those were in the original RS.

EDIT: Nevermind, I Mandela Effect'd myself.