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Gen VI Pokemon Discussion

Which are your favourite Pokemon revealed so far?


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The Outrage

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Well, Pokejungle's source doesn't say fairy isn't SE on ice- they might just be listing the most notable strengths there. Given that they've only got half the relations there (they're missing what resists/is immune to is and what it resists), it's not completely implausible, at least.

Given that this is from a confidential source, and Pokebeach themselves are considering that they may have been fed false information, I'd take the conservative approach with the assumption that Pokejungle's translations are correct.

Perhaps there has been some omission, but we shouldn't look for the rumor's lack of information as a means to validate it. Besides, why would they know some of the strengths, but not others?

Though, Pokebeach has mentioned that the source had previously given them information on the exact effects of Parabola charge....but a new move using the same effects of a pre-existing move (i.e., Giga Drain) with a new type doesn't seem that great a prediction to me yet.

Pokejungle recently updated their posting on Fairy type:

Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.

So information was omitted, but we still have no word on ice types.
 

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I'm still unconvinced of those rumors, largely because of the starters gaining psychic/dark/fighting typings upon their evolution. I don't know how many times it's been speculated those would be the secondary typings for several previous starters because of "hurrr another perfect triangle"

Why wouldn't Game Freak do it though? I understand being skeptic because of the convenience, but that doesn't necessarily mean that GF won't do it. This is one such rumor I like, and there's been plenty of times where rumors I didn't like turned out real.

There's also the trailer footage. Several of the starters were seen using moves that appeared to be of Psychic, Dark or Fighting type. (Though it's easier to see with Fennekin) And I don't think they're merely TM moves.
 

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I mean, they could, but isn't the dark/psychic/fighting thing not even a perfect triangle, given dark is immune to psychic?

Also, maybe it's just me, but the supposed fairy is sounding a bit er...god-mode? I mean, immune to dragon?! ._.
 

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I mean, they could, but isn't the dark/psychic/fighting thing not even a perfect triangle, given dark is immune to psychic?

Also, maybe it's just me, but the supposed fairy is sounding a bit er...god-mode? I mean, immune to dragon?! ._.

Immune to dragon, and weak to very uncommon offensive typing. I mean, how many people who aren't getting STAB use poison moves that aren't Toxic?
 

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I think the whole idea is to make up for Poison having its effectiveness against Bug-types removed. I do hope that there will be other type rebalancing along with Fariy if the rumor is true. Namely, something to help out Ice defensively and take down Water a peg. Gen II did more rebalance than just adding Steel and Dark.
 

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Well, assuming that the fairy matchups are true, obviously poison pokemon will get more popular in the combative rings. Before there was really little point even using most poison-type pokemon, really.
 

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I mean, they could, but isn't the dark/psychic/fighting thing not even a perfect triangle, given dark is immune to psychic?

Also, maybe it's just me, but the supposed fairy is sounding a bit er...god-mode? I mean, immune to dragon?! ._.

Immune to dragon, and weak to very uncommon offensive typing. I mean, how many people who aren't getting STAB use poison moves that aren't Toxic?
Not even that so much, but it seems to be super effective against a lot of things. In fact, based on that info, a fairy type could wreck Sableye and Spiritomb. (unless it ends up not doing anything to ghost types)
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

After all these shenanigans occurring on Pokemon Smash where they essentially confirmed that Sylveon is a new type by ruling out every existing type (or, as somebody said, they just altered the type chart), I'm way more confident that their XY special will finally reveal Sylveon's type. Although, on another hand, CoroCoro wouldn't have skipped out on such important information unless Game Freak wanted them to. All of this is obviously provided PokeJungle is 100% correct on their translations and that I am interpreting all this correctly.
 

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Yeah, the Pokemon Smash segment made it blatantly obvious that there's going to be a new Type, and Sylveon's it. They've never done anything this bizarre for an existing-type Pokemon, turning it's design making no sense fitting with any existing types into basically a trollish running gag. Whether it's Fairy remains to be seen, but more and more minor evidence is building up.
 

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Yeah, it honestly makes no sense to be doing all this type-match-up stuff on Pokemon Smash to give us hints, if they changed the match-ups so much that Sylveon can be an existing type (and we just don't know it).
 

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I don't like all this talk about new types. Every type people have suggested, bar Sound, appear to be covered by other types, including Fairy (which I see as Light-lite, IMO), and I don't think Sylveon looks like a Sound-type. I really hope it does turn out to be Flying, just because I was so looking forwards to have a pure-flying type, and an eeveelution at that, and the design seems to fit so well :/

EDIT: Drumming up hype over Sylveon's type is hardly proof of a new type. They're just doing what they always do: hyping things up.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

GF could also pull an amazing troll move and say that it's just plain Rock :s
 

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Immune to dragon, and weak to very uncommon offensive typing. I mean, how many people who aren't getting STAB use poison moves that aren't Toxic?

Nobody really uses Steel Typed moves for the most part either save for special exceptions like Scizor. As for Dragon, people who spam Outrage are espcially about to get trolled if all this is true lol

As for that other info......

It has taken me a little bit to get use to Mewtwo's first forme, it truly has. But to introduce another? I am really taking that with a massive grain of salt. Theres not even any indication from the movie that another forme is about to be revealed, and why would they even hold back on it if it were? If that is real then Mewtwo has become the king of s*it storms in this fandom. I need to think on this, but at least Fairy sounds epic.
 

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If Sylveon is Fairy and Fairy has the type match-ups as said, then all those people who were trying to say that Sylveon's position on the Grand Rainbow Wheel Of Eevee Evos proves she's flying type are going to feel very foolish.
 

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I don't like all this talk about new types. Every type people have suggested, bar Sound, appear to be covered by other types, including Fairy (which I see as Light-lite, IMO), and I don't think Sylveon looks like a Sound-type. I really hope it does turn out to be Flying, just because I was so looking forwards to have a pure-flying type, and an eeveelution at that, and the design seems to fit so well :/

EDIT: Drumming up hype over Sylveon's type is hardly proof of a new type. They're just doing what they always do: hyping things up.

This. This has been me this WHOLE time. But at this point, I just want Sylveon's type to be confirmed. I don't care anymore what it is! Rock? Fairy? It doesn't matter anymore! I just want an end to all of this speculation and confusion. The longer it goes on, the more it gives me a headache.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Sorry to dip back into the Sylveon fiasco, but Smash just had a skit

"Sylveon" was using nunchucks, and then she had a brown bag thrown on her by a wrestler that knocked her down (rock smash?), then she was show breaking a sheet of ice. She was also show pulling a long antennae out of a phone with a rose at the top and talking on it.

I know it's not much, but still.

On Smash there were doing "tests" on the guy in the Sylveon suit to see what type he is:

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was Steel – she failed again!
Then they tested if she was Poison type. Yet again, she failed!


That's all we get for now.

According to PokeJungle, it went like this.

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was strong against ice – she was!
She was strong against Ice, so they tested if she was Steel by using a poison type on her – She wasn’t resistant


So the only type strong against ice out of that is Rock....so that actually really narrows it down. Sylveon is either some new type that's strong against ice, rock type, or they changed around resistances and weaknesses.

Rock is resistant to Poison, Sylveon is not; therefore, she isn't Rock. Also, Fire is the third type that beats Ice, and it isn't resistant to Poison, but we already have Flareon, so ... she must be a new type. Assuming the translation is accurate, which I doubt, because, really? Fairy type?

Pokebeach posted information they say they were tipped off by an insider (note: they are still classifying it as uncomfirmed, just wanted the info out there)


  • Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, and super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting-type Pokemon.
  • Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy).
  • Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
  • The professor’s English name is Patrice.
  • The Starter final evolutions are, as many people predicted, Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark.
  • The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting.
  • A few attacks will be dual-typed.
  • There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in.
  • You will be able to see a Pokemon’s EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.


If Pokejungle's translations are accurate, then we can assume the person who fed Pokebeach this information may be lying.

I call bullshit on the Pokebeach info. It seems like a fair bit of it is pandering to the fans (dual type attacks, types of the starters, etc.), probably so that the bolder claims (Fairy type, two Mewtwo formes, etc.) are swallowed more easily.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Drumming up hype over Sylveon's type is hardly proof of a new type. They're just doing what they always do: hyping things up.

Uhhh, let me clarify. I'm willing to be proven wrong or shown that I am misunderstanding something, but according to Smash (if PokeJungle's translations are entirely correct), Sylveon is not Fighting-type nor Steel-type. It is also not resistant to Poison, and it is super-effective against Ice. Name me a type that fits what they described.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Regardless of if the PokeJungle info is correct, Smash made it clear that Sylveon doesn't fit into any of the existing types . . .
 

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GF could also pull an amazing troll move and say that it's just plain Rock :s

As it turns out, Sylveon is just made up of coral and gemstones. Ribbonlike gemstones.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Drumming up hype over Sylveon's type is hardly proof of a new type. They're just doing what they always do: hyping things up.

Uhhh, let me clarify. I'm willing to be proven wrong or shown that I am misunderstanding something, but according to Smash (if PokeJungle's translations are entirely correct), Sylveon is not Fighting-type nor Steel-type. It is also not resistant to Poison, and it is super-effective against Ice. Name me a type that fits what they described.

No, obviously if Pokejungle is right then it'll be a new type (unless she's a second fire-type eeveelution :s) but you were talking like hyping up Sylveon's type itself proved existence of a new type, which it does not.

EDIT: And by you, I mean people in this thread.
 
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