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Gen VI Pokemon Discussion

Which are your favourite Pokemon revealed so far?


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The Outrage

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Regardless of if the PokeJungle info is correct, Smash made it clear that Sylveon doesn't fit into any of the existing types . . .

It's Pokebeach's info....the Smash translations came from PokeJungle.
 

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Sorry to dip back into the Sylveon fiasco, but Smash just had a skit

"Sylveon" was using nunchucks, and then she had a brown bag thrown on her by a wrestler that knocked her down (rock smash?), then she was show breaking a sheet of ice. She was also show pulling a long antennae out of a phone with a rose at the top and talking on it.

I know it's not much, but still.

On Smash there were doing "tests" on the guy in the Sylveon suit to see what type he is:

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was Steel – she failed again!
Then they tested if she was Poison type. Yet again, she failed!


That's all we get for now.

According to PokeJungle, it went like this.

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was strong against ice – she was!
She was strong against Ice, so they tested if she was Steel by using a poison type on her – She wasn’t resistant


So the only type strong against ice out of that is Rock....so that actually really narrows it down. Sylveon is either some new type that's strong against ice, rock type, or they changed around resistances and weaknesses.

Rock is resistant to Poison, Sylveon is not; therefore, she isn't Rock. Also, Fire is the third type that beats Ice, and it isn't resistant to Poison, but we already have Flareon, so ... she must be a new type. Assuming the translation is accurate, which I doubt, because, really? Fairy type?

Poison does normal damage to rock.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

All of Sylveon's name origins in numerous languages also point to Fairy though, or at least use word origins that can be likened or similar to the concept of fairies.

I can understand being skeptic, but I've pretty much grown to accept Fairy typing now, and this is coming from someone who was against it. I only hope that this doesn't mean many type retcons, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are. The typing seems fairly obvious to me now, and I don't see why it couldn't be.
 

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Sorry to dip back into the Sylveon fiasco, but Smash just had a skit

"Sylveon" was using nunchucks, and then she had a brown bag thrown on her by a wrestler that knocked her down (rock smash?), then she was show breaking a sheet of ice. She was also show pulling a long antennae out of a phone with a rose at the top and talking on it.

I know it's not much, but still.

On Smash there were doing "tests" on the guy in the Sylveon suit to see what type he is:

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was Steel – she failed again!
Then they tested if she was Poison type. Yet again, she failed!


That's all we get for now.

According to PokeJungle, it went like this.

The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was strong against ice – she was!
She was strong against Ice, so they tested if she was Steel by using a poison type on her – She wasn’t resistant


So the only type strong against ice out of that is Rock....so that actually really narrows it down. Sylveon is either some new type that's strong against ice, rock type, or they changed around resistances and weaknesses.

Rock is resistant to Poison, Sylveon is not; therefore, she isn't Rock. Also, Fire is the third type that beats Ice, and it isn't resistant to Poison, but we already have Flareon, so ... she must be a new type. Assuming the translation is accurate, which I doubt, because, really? Fairy type?

Poison does normal damage to rock.

No, Rock resists Poison.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Via Pokemon Smash's episode today (Shokotan dressed as Sylveon and doing some type-match-ups thingy,) I'm more convinced that a new type will finally be revealed.

For now, I'm leaning on 3 options:
* The Fairy-type that has been rumored for months now.
* The Mystic/Aether/Astral-type which was Silktree's idea.
* The Light-type that has been speculated around since the revelation of Dark-type and Steel-type back in the days of Pokemon Gold and Silver Versions.
 

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Rock is resistant to Poison, Sylveon is not; therefore, she isn't Rock. Also, Fire is the third type that beats Ice, and it isn't resistant to Poison, but we already have Flareon, so ... she must be a new type. Assuming the translation is accurate, which I doubt, because, really? Fairy type?

PokeJungle's translations only make it out to be a new type, no mention of what it is. Pokebeach's claims are entirely separate.

If it's fairy type, I'm assuming its being used in the most general sense possible to refer to a creature of "supernatural origin"

According to Kriffix from PokeJungle:

When they tested to see if she was Steel by trying a Poison "attack" on her, she collapsed on the floor having failed. A subtitle then comes up saying "It's taking effect?", "Super effective!?". One of them also comments "It's effective".
They then conclude she's not Steel, and that they can't work out what type she is. She then gets a phone call and runs off to a party.

Basically, they've got to be hinting at a new type. Either that of they're suggesting she's grass, which is obviously not the case.

So it's partially in line with Pokebeach's claim of being weak against Poison....but Pokebeach made no mention of Ice.
 

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Fairy type being immune AND super effective against Dragon, plus SE against Dark and Fighting, and on top of that, weak only to the most unused offensive types? Hell! That is way too broken, even more so than Psychic was in Gen I. That's enough for me to not believe on that rumour. Also, if these was true, then Sylveon couldn't be Fairy either, making the rumour self-contradictory (since, according to the new type's description, Sylveon could not be Fairy, so either the rumour is a lie or either there's going to be more than one new type and Sylveon wolud be of the other new type). Furthermore, on a personal view, I'd hate double typed attacks and I doubt Mewtwo is getting a second new forme and that the starters secondary types will be Dark/Psychic/Fighing (even if I'd love that to happen).

But still, if the only hints we have are that Sylveon was said to be 'strong' against Ice, but is not Steel nor Fighting (and by virtue of previous eeveelutions, it is unlikely that it is Fire), we had the following possible scenarios, in decreasing order of plausibility:

1) It's a new type, be it Fairy, Aether, Sound, Light or whatever.
2) The type chart is indeed being changed like in Gen II.
3) Game Freak is trolling us and Sylveon is Rock type.
4) Game Freak just pulled us the trolling of our lives and Sylveon's type is one of the other remaining old types (Normal, Bug, Dragon. Ground or Flying) and can learn naturally (that is, via level-up, no TM/HM's required) either Fire, Rock or Steel moves, hence it is effectively strong against Ice (note that according to the report, it was said that SILVEON, not Sylveon's typing, is strong to Ice, so they might be playing with words on their favor).
 

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Green Zubat said:
No, obviously if Pokejungle is right then it'll be a new type (unless she's a second fire-type eeveelution :s) but you were talking like hyping up Sylveon's type itself proved existence of a new type, which it does not.

Well, they weren't just hyping up its type. They were silently revealing that it is a new type by process of elimination. While that classifies as hype, it isn't hype by itself.
 

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So, Elikiteru is definately my favorite of the new ones, Yancham is a close second.

At first I didn't get Elikiteru, but now I get it...you know how lizards bathe in the sun and such? Well, Elikiteru is based on a solar dish as well (a parabolic solar dish, as he's got a parabola head), so, while he sunbathes, he also powers up with electrical energy. I definitely agree with the idea of him becoming a frilled lizard solar dish.

I don't get Electric/Normal though...unless the "Normal" becomes Flying, but then why even introduce Normal if they were gonna dump it?
 

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No, both ground and rock resist poison. ._.; It says so on the very type chart you just linked to.
But there's a 1x ;-;
That means normal damage, does it not? Or has not looking at a type chart for 4 years messed me up that much?
 
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But there's a 1x ;-;
That means normal damage, does it not? Or has not looking at a type chart for 4 years messed me up that much?

... Nooo, there's a 1/2x. You might be looking at the wrong row or column. Try checking poison and rocks' separate pages.


Ooh, I have an idea: Erikiteru's normal typing indicates that it doesn't naturally generate electricity the way most electric types do, and instead has to rely on an outside source of energy, sunlight, to use electric abilities. So it's not an electric creature, it's a normal creature with bonus electric powers.
 

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No, both ground and rock resist poison. ._.; It says so on the very type chart you just linked to.
But there's a 1x ;-;
That means normal damage, does it not? Or has not looking at a type chart for 4 years messed me up that much?

The defending type (Horizontal axis) is Rock, the attacking type (vertical axis) is Poison, it lands on x1/2, and is also coloured red.

Ooh, I have an idea: Erikiteru's normal typing indicates that it doesn't naturally generate electricity the way most electric types do, and instead has to rely on an outside source of energy, sunlight, to use electric abilities. So it's not an electric creature, it's a normal creature with bonus electric powers.

If that was the case, it should be a Normal-type with secondary electric characteristics, with electric being its secondary type.
 

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Ooh, I have an idea: Erikiteru's normal typing indicates that it doesn't naturally generate electricity the way most electric types do, and instead has to rely on an outside source of energy, sunlight, to use electric abilities. So it's not an electric creature, it's a normal creature with bonus electric powers.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Bulbagarden news article via CoroCoro said:
Erikiteru generates electricity by absorbing sunlight
 

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The defending type (Horizontal axis) is Rock, the attacking type (vertical axis) is Poison, it lands on x1/2, and is also coloured red.
OTL
It's official, I never learned how to read type charts ._.;;;;;;

Also, I said it in the CoroCoro thread, Lizard Puppy could pull a Swablu or something and turn into a dragon, idk.
 

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Ooh, I have an idea: Erikiteru's normal typing indicates that it doesn't naturally generate electricity the way most electric types do, and instead has to rely on an outside source of energy, sunlight, to use electric abilities. So it's not an electric creature, it's a normal creature with bonus electric powers.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Bulbagarden news article via CoroCoro said:
Erikiteru generates electricity by absorbing sunlight

I'm pretty sure @YamiiDenryuu is well aware of that, and is merely using the information revealed by CoroCoro to explain the normal typing, not using the normal typing as a way to infer characteristics.
 

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Well, Elikiteru is based on a solar dish as well (a parabolic solar dish, as he's got a parabola head), so, while he sunbathes, he also powers up with electrical energy.

This would also explain his attack, Parabola Charge.
 

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VeggiePopper said:
4) Game Freak just pulled us the trolling of our lives and Sylveon's type is one of the other remaining old types (Normal, Bug, Dragon. Ground or Flying) and can learn naturally (that is, via level-up, no TM/HM's required) either Fire, Rock or Steel moves, hence it is effectively strong against Ice (note that according to the report, it was said that SILVEON, not Sylveon's typing, is strong to Ice, so they might be playing with words on their favor).

That, sir, would be rather evil. In any case, Smash tested whether Sylveon was Steel-type immediately after concluding that it was "strong against Ice." Too coincidental if they didn't mean "it is a type that is super-effective against Ice."
 

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Unless it is one of the current types, but has a certain ability that gives it different weaknesses and resistances.

That WOULD be the biggest troll move.
 
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