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Gen VI Pokemon Discussion

Which are your favourite Pokemon revealed so far?


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Joshawott

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

WPM has claimed his source has told him the following English names for the Pokémon:

Gogoat -> The same
Yancham -> Panchum
Yayakoma -> Fletchling
Elikiteru -> Helioptile

However, I still think WPM (or at least his source) is full of crap. Why? Because if Gogoat's name is the same...why was the "basis" for his source being "legit" the fact that there's an electric-type move that heals you as it does damage and not y'know...GOGOAT?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I hope those aren't real, specifically Elekiteru's name. Helioptile? What is that even suppose to mean?

But I think this "source" is still BS anyways, so yeah.
 

Garren

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Did he receive these names beforehand, or did the source just give it to him?

Also, Helioptile = Helio (sun) + reptile. It's a clunky name written out, but it fits since it's a solar-powered Pokemon.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

If those are the names I'm not too fond of them, but then again I'm skeptical of WPM's source so I'm a bit bias in that regard.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I think the fairy type sounds fine. Clearly, some pokemon like Clefairy (who's type would probably be retconned to be Fairy) just aren't "Normal". Fairylike and healing powers aren't by any means "Normal". But they aren't quite most other types either. Given that we already have Dragon as a type (as Joshawott pointed out), what in the world is wrong with Fairy? I think it's probably one of the best ideas. It would also have pretty clear weaknesses and advantages due to stories and previous fictions. I don't understand why it would be strong against Ice, though. But I could easily see it maybe being weak to Poison and Steel maybe. And possibly strong against Dark, Ghost, and Dragon maybe. Overall, I believe that we will get a new type, and Fairy would be fine by me. I'm just a bit concerned that Ice is going to be even more of a punching bag.

As for the newly revealed mons, I really like them. Of the four new ones, my favorite is probably the Panda or Goat. I could see the panda evolving into either Fighting/Grass or Fighting/Dark. I think that the Electric lizard thing may lose its Normal typing in exchange for maybe Flying or Dragon upon evolving.

On more ice weakness < hopefully there is a type weaknesses/strength change in general.

I agree. I think that the whole type chart should be renovated, rebalanced, and re-edited. Grass, Rock, and Ice are too weak while some types like Ghost and Dragon are a bit overpowered. A few types like Poison are too overlooked and need a relevance boost.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

That makes sense. Although I wouldn't mind it as much if the random "p" wasn't thrown in there.

We should see soon, seeing as the US site will probably update this week.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I hope Gogoat is the legitimate English name. It's not terribly original, but the use of it on the forums has endeared the name to me.
 

Garren

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Fletchling is an interesting name.

It's a combo of fledgling, a baby bird, and fletching, the fins on an arrow, which Yayakoma appears to have as a tail.

And arrow in Japanese is "ya"...could Yayakoma, like this English name speculates (knows? I'm starting to wonder myself) have an arrow motif?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I just hope Yayakoma is nearly or as good as Staraptor and Swellow were. Pidgeot was okay, Noctowl was confusing to use when I was little and Unfezant was just odd.
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Fletchling is an interesting name.

It's a combo of fledgling, a baby bird, and fletching, the fins on an arrow, which Yayakoma appears to have as a tail.

And arrow in Japanese is "ya"...could Yayakoma, like this English name speculates (knows? I'm starting to wonder myself) have an arrow motif?
Maybe something like a Robin Hood motif?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I hope that Yayakoma turns out to be really good. I'm hoping for it to be about as good (or even better) than Staraptor. Staraptor was easily the best regional bird imo, and I'd love for this new bird to be up there too. It does seem that it will have some Fire moves. I don't really expect its type to change though. Staraptor had Fighting and Noctowl had Psychic, but they never changed type. So I guess Yayakoma is going to stay Normal/Flying +badass fire abilities :D I'm kinda hoping for a 3 stage evolution rather than the commonly suggested 2. But either way I'm fine as long as it's as good as Staraptor (and not nearly as bad as Unfezant!).

I'll definitely be catching one on my first day, probably even my first caught pokemon :) I'm not sure what to name it yet. Maybe Robin, Bo, Fawkes, or Flint.
 

Dr. Buni

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Panchum sounds good, but the others names... ugh, why complicate so much?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

The yellow

I already said "apart from the color scheme", so don't try to fool me with that one.

round heads

MOST Pokémon have round heads ¬¬ That's like saying "OMGZ they look the same because they both have eyes!!11". And even then, they're not that similar, as they have different mouths and Elekiteru's seems to be divided in sections, unlike Mawile's.

the long yet thin brown ears

Fair enough, you're right. That makes two similarities.

the white limbs that extend into brown hands.

Again, that's part of the color scheme. So I already acknowledge this. That's not to mention that you now treat one single similarity as many just so your point doesn't fall apart.

So basically, it's just the colors and the ears; two similarities. Now, let's talk about differences.

- Mawile looks sightly humanoid, whereas Elikiteru is entirely reptilian.
- Mawile's quadrupedal. Elikiteru´s bipedal.
- Their legs/paws look nothing alike at all.
- As said before, Elikiteru's head has a different pattern: seems to be divided in sections, has a triangle-shaped mark on its forehead and the brown section covers its whole upper-half, whereas Mawile's head doesn't have sections or marks, and only the very top is covered in dark brown/gray.
- Elikiteru has a tail, Mawile doesn't.
- Their eyes have different shape and color. It might look like nitpicking, however, most Pokémon related by evolution have eyes of the same color.
- Basically, they're based on different things: Mawile is based on a legend about a Japanese woman (hence the dress-like legs), whereas Elikiteru is based on a lizard.
- Most importantly (aesthetically spkeaking): Elikiteru lacks Mawile's most unique feature: the big jaw on top of its head.
- Most importantly (gameplay speaking), they are different typings: Mawile is Steel, Elikiteru is Electric/Normal.

Unlike Luvdisc and Alomomola, which were both based on the same animal (fish) and even then, said animal is tweaked THE EXACT SAME WAY, up to both being of the same color (pink) and shape (heart), not to mention type (Water); Alomomola is basically a bigger Luvdisc. Mawile and Elikiteru share nothing in common but colors, so I see no way of getting confused and say it definitely loos like Mawile's preevolution. tjat's just, again, seeing things when there's none.


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Anyway, back on topic, I like those English names, especially Helioptile. I don't know is Helio- comes from helios, Greek for 'sun', hinting at an Electric/Grass evolution (something that doesn't exist oustide Rotom, so it would be refershing) or as in 'helicopter' (after all, its ears resemble a helicopter's propeller) hinting at an Electric/Flying evolution, (after all, its called the Generator Pokémon, referencing a turbine like those in flying machines like jets and rockets), which, while not unique, is still an uncommon combination.
 
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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Panchum sounds good, but the others names... ugh, why complicate so much?

What's wrong with being creative?
 

Joshawott

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

@VeggiePopper; What you're completely failing to get is that each of those things may be fairly normal by themselves, but it's them together that makes them look similar.
Your idea of breaking down the similarities is like doing the following:
"You're saying Igglybuff and Jigglypuff look alike because they're both pink? So are many other Pokémon, like Lickitung and Sylveon! You say they're both round? So are Voltorb and Magnemite! Igglybuff has a swirl on its head, while Jigglypuff doesn't! Igglybuff has red eyes, while Jigglypuff has blue! They can't be related!"

I'm not denying that Alomomola and Luvdisc have more similarities than Mawile and Elikiteru at all and I never said that Elikiteru is a pre-evolution of Mawile at all (we know it isn't). All I was saying that the two have a slight resemblance.

But while you're saying that all Pokémon need to resemble other Pokémon in their evolution family perfectly and have the same basis:
Carvanha and Sharpedo. A red Piranha evolves into a blue shark.
Remoraid and Octillery: A little blue fish becomes a red octopus. Sure, it's meant to reflect the change in power from a handgun to a cannon, but it's still weird.
Hoppip and Skiploon: An entirely red Pokémon becomes green.
Gloom and Belossom: A purple, bad smelling plant becomes a hula dancer.
Snorunt, Glalie and Froslass: All completely different bases.
Trapinch to Vibrava.
Dratini and Dragonair to Dragonite.
Rhydon to Rhyperior (talk about a drastic colour change!)
The list goes on.
 

Zeb

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Since Yayakoma is known for its beautiful voice I reckon it could learn Sing. None of the other regional birds we have learn Sing (Hoothoot and Pidove do learn Hypnosis, but they are not really the same from a thematic point of view) and when you think about it, birds sing all the time, so maybe this will be the first regional bird to do so?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

Just for a bit of different discussion, what about shinies? These are my predictions (haha, a bit random, but I just love shinies 030)
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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?
 

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Re: Revealed Gen VI Pokemon Discussion/Speculation Thread

I don't know if people have discussed this already but does anyone think that the new mewtwo forme will be the same new type as sylveon? I mean fairy could fall through and we can get somethinng similar that also encompasses the new forme?

I do think that may be the case, with a possible new Light type. If not, I'm thinking Sylveon will be Flying.

I'm not sure if it was confirmed that Yayakoma is the regional bird, but I am thinking and hoping that it definitely will be. I tend to keep the regional bird on my team for a good while, and I'm really like Yayakoma's design.

My favorite of the newly revealed Pokémon is Erikiteru. This is mainly because of its unique type combination and adorable face.
 
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